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Johnnymceldoo
Posted on Sunday, August 29, 2010 - 01:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Boy the interviewer from msnbc was asking nagin some tough questions this morning. Basically saying alot of people thought he made some big mistakes. I was surprised they weren't blaming bush and fema more.

Did anyone watch the show on national geographic where this family filmed their experience during the hurricane? It had some very political undertones. I liked how the husband admits to doing the wrong things pre-katrina like selling drugs but then talks about the lack of help from the government. The brother tells guard troops they belong in louisiana fighting this war and not the illegal war in iraq.

Awesome stuff. As if these people had been spoon fed bull$hit their entire lives.
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Augustus74
Posted on Sunday, August 29, 2010 - 01:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Saw the commercial for the "Katrina" show. Haven't decided if I want to watch it yet. Your comments may justify me skipping it though : )
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Sunday, August 29, 2010 - 01:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

See difference in response between New Orleans and Nashville.

Nashville is what happens when independent Americans undergo a disaster.

New Orleans is what happens when generational wards of the state undergo a disaster.
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Kc10_fe
Posted on Sunday, August 29, 2010 - 09:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Nagin is a dirt bag. Why did several 100 large school buses remained parked and unused for evacuations before the city flooded? So much easier to blame anyone/everyone else.
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Aesquire
Posted on Monday, August 30, 2010 - 10:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Check out any National Geographic article on New Orleans for the last fifty years.
"jazz...bury their dead above ground, because of the water table...Mardi gras....below sea level....levee's going to fail in big storm....city is doomed..."

Notice that the problems of New Orleans didn't happen in nearby states, even if they were hit harder by the storm, and didn't happen near as bad outside the welfare island that is the big city. The bad leadership of the local and state guys was obvious. "Brownie" still was a schmuck, but any adult in government that still has a frat boy nickname is suspect, to me.

The mayor had not read the emergency plan.
The mayor did not follow the emergency plan.
The Governor didn't follow the emergency plan, and didn't ask for help from the feds even when they asked him to.

They since changed how that works.
Now the feds just do what they want.

The emergency plan had the school buses used to evacuate. Unfortunately, it didn't arrange for drivers. So when the smart people left town ahead of the storm, that included the school bus drivers, who were NEVER told they were to evacuate the city, because the emergency plan didn't....

The good news from Katrina was that American Citizens are still the most generous folk on the planet, and that aid reached NO from Americans without government approval or help.

I could rant how FEMA was created by Carter to replace Civil Defense. The philosophy of Defense against disaster being wrong to Carter he made a agency to come in after the disaster and help out. Despite my dislike for the concept as practiced, FEMA actually did a pretty good job in some ways.....crap in others. You expect different from the government? ( that's non partisan.... I don't expect the disaster plan to work no matter who is in power....if the plan wasn't made by smart people who actually know what they are doing. Very few politicians fit that category.
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Sifo
Posted on Tuesday, August 31, 2010 - 10:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The emergency plan had the school buses used to evacuate. Unfortunately, it didn't arrange for drivers.

All they had to do was call the dispatch office and request the buses. Dispatch will get the drivers in. That's nothing but an excuse for not calling for the buses in the first place.
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Macbuell
Posted on Tuesday, August 31, 2010 - 01:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I've been ignoring all the Katrina stuff all week. I'm sick of hearing about it.
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