| Author | Message | ||
     Firebolt32 |
My wife posted something about this on Facebook this morning. I didn't think it was true until I found this. Of course not ALL things on the internet are true...but if so, this is pretty damn disturbing. http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2005/10/10 19_051019_dogs_sharks.html | ||
| Rwven |
In Western culture we have anthropomorphised dogs, the same does not hold true the world over. In many parts of the world dog is what's for dinner, or in this case it's what's used to catch dinner.... | ||
| Odie |
Don't let your dog get too close to the water on a river down here. The gators smell them and love them for lunch!!!! | ||
| Firebolt32 |
Down here in FL to Odie. I'm actually thinking about digging out my own pond just so they can swim safely. | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
It's tough to see. If they have a problem and are going to kill the cats and dogs anyway, I don't see the problem as long as they are not hooking them live. | ||
| Fahren |
Must be fishing for dogfish or catfish. | ||
| Hootowl |
"In Western culture we have anthropomorphized dogs" We have also bred them to have characteristics that we desire. In pre history, we selected dogs (as a species)for survival by sheltering them, feeding them, and protecting them. We kept the ones that we could identify with, and shunned the ones we didn't, altering the evolution of the species. To wit: Dogs look where you point. Wolves, very similar to dogs, look at the end of your finger, just like a cat. We didn't keep wolves around. Humans and canines are very much linked, and I find it abhorrent that at human would treat a canine with such distain. | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
Then again, in this part of the world, they don't have much regard for humans either. If there was an over run of orphans, they'd probably be hooking them too. Dogs are just farther down the ladder. | ||
| Etennuly |
What was that Jerry Reed song from the early 70's.....Amos Moses! Yeah, that's the one! | ||
| Rwven |
"We have also bred them to have characteristics that we desire." Same as we've done with chickens, pigs, and cattle. "I find it abhorrent that at human would treat a canine with such distain." As do I on a gut level, but I've been raised with Western sensibilities. I have a far more judgmental attitude toward the way I see many Americans treat their dogs than I do to the Reunion Islanders. | ||
| Hootowl |
"Same as we've done with chickens, pigs, and cattle. " True. Except we bred those to be better for eating, and only very recently. We bred dogs to be companions, which they have been for thousands of years. Most people elevate dogs above other animals, which is why most people find their mistreatment so appalling. | ||
| Froggy |
Dogs are no different than cows or pigs or monkeys to me. If you want to eat them, or use them as bait, go right ahead. They can start with my sisters stupid pit bull. | ||
| Spiderman |
All I know is there are some pissed off Vietnamese people watching a waste of good dog! | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
I'd have to agree that were the chips down, I'd eat the family pet rather than starve to death. Then again, we have a Chihuahua and a Shih tzu. I'd be hungry again in no time. | ||
| Hootowl |
I don't know, Mexican food stays with you for a while. Chinese food, not so much. | ||
| Bikertrash05 |
This thread has gone to the dogs... | ||
| Fast1075 |
If you go to Thailand and decide to take FiFi....don;t hand her over to the nice waiter at the restaurant for safekeeping while you dine..... Dinner could well end up being FiFi....it seems that it is very common for some people to "bring fido for lunch"....hey, it will be FRESH.....lol | ||
| Whisperstealth |
"All I know is there are some pissed off Vietnamese people watching a waste of good dog!" Philipino as well. Worked with a guy from there. He ate dog, said it was a warm meat. "150,000 stray dogs" Agree with the thoughts about how western culture views dogs differently. I do not think peoples pets should be being used, that is wrong. The strays however I look at it, as one food source being used to catch other. Live bait does sound harsh, but is likely more effective. | ||
| Odie |
Think of the hungry folks around the world we could feed with 150K dogs!! The problem, as I see it, is that people allow dogs and cats to procreate with abandon and overpopulate on a very large basis. The sickness and disease they harbor can cause immense issues for other animals as well as humans. They do need to be brought under control but if you started shooting them PETA et. al. would still be whining..... | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
My parents were instructed to avoid certain meat dishes at the Laotian wedding they attended. This was in Tennessee. | ||
| Spiderman |
PETA et. al. would still be whining..... http://www.petakillsanimals.com/ Local shelters do more and better than PETA ever could. PETA just has a better PR dept... | ||
| Delta_one |
I don't see the problem as long as they are not hooking them live.
sounds like they are not only hooking them live but making them suffer for a about a day before they are put to death. drowning or bleeding out, I don't really care who or what you are that is a horrific way to go. with 150,000 strays on a small island that's out of control somebody should have stepped up sooner. IMO at this point the animals wont live one way or another (they will probably put down in a shelter starve to death in the street or used as live shark bait), my vote is to kill them quickly; the remains are no longer of use so if they want to turn it to chum and put it in a bucket that's their choice.} | ||
| Hootowl |
PETA sucks. What are the 150,000 dogs on this island eating? | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
Kill them humanely and chum away. My guess is that bleeding them is free. Bullets and poison cost money. | ||
| Swordsman |
A friend of mine had a martial arts instructor that ate dogs. The instructor told him that any dogs with a black tongue taste the best. Friend asked him how do you know if they have a black tongue? Instructor replied, "Just pat them on the head." Poor puppy!  ~SM | ||
| Firebolt32 |
If you looked at some of the photos on the link I provided it's shows a dog that was able to escape. It was brought to the vet with the hooks still in it's lips/nose. I've got a soft heart when it comes to dogs. I'd feed my four pups (and daughter) before I fed myself. | ||
| Jeepinbueller |
It's not a condoned practice even on the island where the supposed picture was taken. No need to get up in arms really: this is not acceptable practice anywhere in the world: http://www.snopes.com/critters/crusader/sharkbait. asp | ||
| Firebolt32 |
Sure it's not condoned but people still do it. Ever seen Whale Wars? The Japs fish whales for "research".  | ||
| Hotrats |
Thit Cho....mmmmm mostly, eating dog in vietnam is a northern thing. but there are doggie restaurants in the south. also a lot of northerners too (since '75) you have your dogs for pets, and then you have your dogs for eating. two different animals. no problem (Message edited by hotrats on August 23, 2010) | ||
| Ulynut |
Authorities had found a seven-month-old puppy on John Claude Clain's property in July with three fishing hooks in its paws and snout. Once fishers capture the animals, she said, the dogs and cats are hooked "the day before, so they can bleed sufficiently." I'm calling B.S. on that. If you hook yourself, it only bleeds for a little while before the blood clots. Looks like a whole lot of sensationalism to me. Besides, dog tastes a lot better than shark. Easier to catch too. | ||
| Delta_one |
I would think that they are stabbing them before trolling with them. but I would also guess that catching sharks isn't just for food. you can sell many parts of a shark, not much market for dog parts. either way you are right and the whole story sounds BS | ||
| 86129squids |
Heck- I got one of them Easter chicks, mine grew into a Rhode Island Red rooster. Dogs or raccoons got it. I eat a lot of chicken. |
