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Superdavetfft
| Posted on Thursday, August 12, 2010 - 03:41 pm: |
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Hi all; I've found a pretty nice mutant made from an 2000 M2 and I'm about ready to start talking numbers. It's a pretty standard kit setup utilizing the M2 forks, wheels, brakes, gauges, flyscreen etc. Before I do that though I'd like to hear if anyone has had one of these hardtail setups, what your opinions were etc... I won't see it in person until this wknd so I'm trying to put together a list of things to look for etc... Any advice is appreciated, thanks! superdave |
Cityxslicker
| Posted on Thursday, August 12, 2010 - 03:56 pm: |
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license and titling will be fun. and make sure if it does have a title that it isnt a salvage or a reclaim. |
Hootowl
| Posted on Thursday, August 12, 2010 - 03:59 pm: |
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That's sort of a sore subject around here, since a Buell was "murdered" in order to create it. Beyond that, as far as the Buell parts are concerned, ask if the motor has had the usual upgrades, like a new chain tensioner, new style detent plate, the grenade plate in the clutch replaced...all the things you'd want to do to a Sportster engine. Since you're looking at a custom bike, I'm assuming you know a bit about Harleys, and the XL platform. No real surprises as far as running gear. Forks, swingarm, brakes, etc. are all pretty durable, and don't have systemic issues you'd need to worry about. Good luck. |
Hootowl
| Posted on Thursday, August 12, 2010 - 04:03 pm: |
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Oh, and check the frame for cracks. The welds are only as good as the welder. Custom frames, it seems to me, might be more subject to flaws in the welds than a computer controlled mass produced one. |
Ulynut
| Posted on Thursday, August 12, 2010 - 04:08 pm: |
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since a Buell was "murdered" in order to create it. Not necessarily true. The motor and other parts could have come from wrecked bikes. |
Superdavetfft
| Posted on Thursday, August 12, 2010 - 04:09 pm: |
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I agree about the 'murder'... I hate seeing a good bike get stripped just for a quick buck, especially given it's a deceased brand (at the moment anyway *crosses fingers*).... Good points though, it's an assembled title so I think we're ok there, (except for costly insurance possibly)... I'll have to look the frame over closely, it's all painted and prettied up so it might be kind of hard to spot. I'm trying to find out if it's a Redneck frame or some homemade job.... |
Dfishman
| Posted on Thursday, August 12, 2010 - 04:46 pm: |
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Maybe he still has the original frame................You can play the movie backwards. |
Superdavetfft
| Posted on Thursday, August 12, 2010 - 05:12 pm: |
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Here's a pic ...
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Hootowl
| Posted on Thursday, August 12, 2010 - 05:18 pm: |
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Looks loud. I'd have to put some pipes on it were I to own that. It ain't bad looking though. |
Pwnzor
| Posted on Thursday, August 12, 2010 - 08:11 pm: |
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I'm sorry... that is absolutely hideous. When I first saw this thread, I had a pretty bad image in my imagination... Now that I see it in person, it's much worse. ...sorry man, I'm nothing if not brutally honest. |
Ftd
| Posted on Thursday, August 12, 2010 - 08:13 pm: |
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Two friends of mine have owned them. One fancy and one more hard core. I have ridden both. Lots of fun though a rough ride and little lean angle on left hand corners. The black one had an X1 engine which dyno'd at 85 RWHP with the Force pipe. It sounded mean and was very light/fast.
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Ourdee
| Posted on Thursday, August 12, 2010 - 08:43 pm: |
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My 13 year old is looking over my shoulder saying,"Quite honestly that is the ugliest looking thing I've ever seen". |
Spiderman
| Posted on Thursday, August 12, 2010 - 08:44 pm: |
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from the mouth of babes... |
Greg_e
| Posted on Thursday, August 12, 2010 - 09:04 pm: |
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On the plus side, it would be easy to do engine work when needed. |
Whisperstealth
| Posted on Thursday, August 12, 2010 - 10:42 pm: |
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I would recomend spending the money on a complete Buell. A tuber, XB, whatever. Unless you already have a Buell, and WANT a mutant chopper. Looks God Awfully Uncomfortable! Cross town bike, okay; going anywhere else, No Thank you! |
Littlebuggles
| Posted on Friday, August 13, 2010 - 01:42 am: |
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Looks good to me, I like the red frame. Personally, I can't see myself riding a rigid frame, ever. I really hate the idea of a good bike being turned into one of these. One of our members did one due to back problems and it worked well for him, looked sharp too. On the other hand, I don't like the X1 mutant at all, the tank and lines of the bike just don't work, there's no flow from tank to seat, regardless of how it ran. The red bike also looks good. Hootowl gives good advice, some 2000's have the better tensioner and detent stock it seems, mine came with them. But if you have several tubers already SuperDave, do you really need advice on the matter? |
Trojan
| Posted on Friday, August 13, 2010 - 05:05 am: |
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Burn it!! |
Spiderman
| Posted on Friday, August 13, 2010 - 06:19 am: |
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One of our members did one due to back problems This has to be one of the best statements I have ever heard! Instead of changing the Buells ergos for his back, he went to a rigid frame to help his back! That is like switching from non-filters to filtered cigs to help your lung cancer... |
Xbrad9r
| Posted on Friday, August 13, 2010 - 10:41 am: |
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that looks like something they would ride on that show on FX..."Sons of Hamhocky" |
Andymnelson
| Posted on Friday, August 13, 2010 - 11:18 am: |
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Rigids aren't THAT bad...just need to run low air pressure in the rear tire and avoid potholes. That thing can't handle worth a crap, so you don't have to worry about the handling issue of running low pressure, or that fact that it has the non-inverted M2 forks. That's not my cup of tea, but they do call it a Mutant, don't they? |
Superdavetfft
| Posted on Friday, August 13, 2010 - 12:13 pm: |
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Admittedly I have to agree with all the statements about the rigid part of it etc, handling and so on.... Yes I know it'll ride & handle like crap but on the other hand I'd expect it to be fun as hell to romp around town on. That M2 powerplant has such a torquey manner to it I think it'll make for a fun chopper. I do other a few other Buells, S3, Uly, 1125R, but I wanted a bar hopper chopper thing to tear around on. Well I could spend $15k on some aftermarket chopper made with a RevTech engine or some other Korean knock off that would be underpowered to begin with... OR find a reliable and strong mutant and go with that... I'll let you all know what it's like when I pick it up Saturday Thanks all superdave |
Skntpig
| Posted on Friday, August 13, 2010 - 12:25 pm: |
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Looks like a great start for a project bike. All you need is an M2/S1 frame and some plastics. You have the front end and motor + wheels. Lots of stuff you can sell on Ebay there. Good luck with your project. Let us know how it turns out, and take pics of the transformation! |
Greg_e
| Posted on Friday, August 13, 2010 - 12:51 pm: |
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Bar hopping with zero exhaust? Sounds like a combination for a lot of stops by the police. |
Cityxslicker
| Posted on Friday, August 13, 2010 - 02:34 pm: |
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as gehy as the OCC boys doin a 'dirt' chopper for Gander Mt. |
Firebolt020283
| Posted on Friday, August 13, 2010 - 02:40 pm: |
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There are only 200000 or so buells on this planet and there are millions of harleys so why do people feel they must destroy the lesser of the two. |
Sifo
| Posted on Friday, August 13, 2010 - 04:34 pm: |
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At least the donor for this bike is already dead. If you need to do it this is better than killing another Buell. |
Littlebuggles
| Posted on Friday, August 13, 2010 - 07:19 pm: |
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Looking forward to the ride report SuperDave, I concur with Sifo as well. It's already done, dude's not gonna chop his S3 so it's far better than killing another Buell. Spidey, the guy with the back problems said it worked for him. Why should I argue with that? People didn't want to believe it, but he argued strongly that the position was much better for him, and he was pleased to still have the heart of the machine he had loved as a sport bike but could no longer ride. He's emailed me and we've chatted on the board. Every body is different, some people find certain bars more comfortable than others, that was far more drastic and it offends the conscious of most members here, bugs me too, but it was his bike and he had his reasons. The bikes won't all survive and that is unfortunate. |
Dfishman
| Posted on Friday, August 13, 2010 - 07:31 pm: |
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My homeade sporty chopper that I built handled better than I thought it would.I did the "snake"421 in Shady Valley in record time for a rigid.BUT.I built the bike with good clearance & did not rake it.As long as the twisties where smooth it did great.Much better than a Sucker Punch Sally custom bike that I used to own that had had a Kraft Tech frame & a 180 rear tire.Nothing like my Buells,but a lot of fun.How ever I had fun on the bike it was nowhere as fun as the bike that replaced it.My XR650R in Sumo trim.Here is a pic
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Jstfrfun
| Posted on Sunday, August 15, 2010 - 03:26 pm: |
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I've ridden a couple of rigid frame bikes and was not happy with the ride at all. So when I decided to do one of Rednecks kit bikes I chose the softail version. I do not, however recommend anyone buy them without an extensive machine shop available, as there is a great deal of small parts and finishing one must do to complete the kit they call a DIY. I've gotten this far;
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Doug_s
| Posted on Monday, August 16, 2010 - 08:33 am: |
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There are only 200000 or so buells on this planet and there are millions of harleys so why do people feel they must destroy the lesser of the two. +1. sportsters are a dime a dozen and already handle like shite. it's easy enough to tweek the sportster motor for more power, and no way the buell suspension bits are gonna help handling of these mutants... but, i guess the sad fact of the matter is that even p.o.s. used sportsters cost more than buells. folks have a lot more dollars than sense... doug s. |
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