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Needs_o2
Posted on Monday, August 09, 2010 - 05:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Need some input for a friend who's looking to buy bike.
So, who has or has had both a Uly and a H-D bagger of some sorts?

Help shed some light on him!
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F_skinner
Posted on Monday, August 09, 2010 - 05:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I have owned both... 2004 EGlide and a 2009 Uly... You can have him call me if he wants..

Frank
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Monday, August 09, 2010 - 05:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

That's kinda like trying to get him to decide between an Subaru Outback and Lincoln Town Car.
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Jerry_haughton
Posted on Monday, August 09, 2010 - 05:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Fatty, you know better than that.

: )
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Monday, August 09, 2010 - 05:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The way you ride? Yeah.

For most humans, the only thing those two have in common is that they have bags.

Pretty sure I've never seen a road couch doing this:




I've never seen an EGlide taped up for a track day.

Not bashing the EGlide. It's one of the most comfortable touring bikes ever made and sales prove that out. I just think it an odd selection between these two choices. They have virtually nothing in common other than bags.
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Jerry_haughton
Posted on Monday, August 09, 2010 - 06:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I just think it an odd selection between these two choices. They have virtually nothing in common other than bags.

Agree 100%.

As for the Road Couch Leaning thing, floor boards on my Road King are a maintenance item. Maybe I should learn to hang my knee out??

Nope, never had it taped up for a track day, but the Uly was not designed for track days, either.

I know you know Harleys, but you and me really need to get together and ride some time. : D

FB

PS:
http://www.badweatherbikers.com/cgibin/discus/show .cgi?tpc=6817&post=1888210#POST1888210

http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/37/ 585862.html?1281385687
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Monday, August 09, 2010 - 06:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Love to ride with you. I'll try not to slow you down too much.

Lean angles are 33*R 31*L on the EGlide vs. 43*R and 40*L for the Uly.

They are a lot closer than many folks think.

Baggers can be a lot more nimble than people think:




Yellow Wolf drags a knee every once in a while.

You're not allowed to. : D
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Jerry_haughton
Posted on Monday, August 09, 2010 - 06:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Love to ride with you. I'll try not to slow you down too much.

You won't slow me down at all - I'll be busy trying to keep your tail-light in sight. : D

I'm first-hand familiar with the lean angles on the Uly. It took almost 5000 miles, but I finally screwed up my courage and cranked MadDuck's Uly over far enough to bevel off most of the feelers on both sides.

(Later, when I boasted about my feat on BWB, he took a Dremel tool and ground off what was left of the feelers...)

The Road King runs out of cornering clearance in an awful hurry, but it'll still lumber down a twisty road better than a barge like that has a right to.

It ain't no Uly, but that doesn't keep it from trying. : )

FB
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Strokizator
Posted on Monday, August 09, 2010 - 07:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I owned both simultaneously; an'06 Uly and a '94 Road King and then an '08 Road Glide. If it boils down to just one bike, the Uly is perhaps the most versatile bike out there.

A lot depends on who you'll be riding with or what you like to do. My wife preferred the road sofa to the Uly (the tall seat made her nervous). Sometimes I like to just putt along on the HD with the cruise control on and the stereo playing.

On the whole, the Uly is a most satisfying experience and gets my vote.
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Monday, August 09, 2010 - 07:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hargis, Barker and I saw an anomaly the other day. We heard the radio over the exhaust on an UC.

Kinda like a Bigfoot sighting.
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Danger_dave
Posted on Monday, August 09, 2010 - 07:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Shedding light is not a Uly strong point.

Depends on the rider and circumstances.

Living here in NZ the Uly was the best solution for my transport needs.

If I lived back home in Aus where there aren't many corners, a bagger would be.

Horses - courses.
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Panhead_dan
Posted on Monday, August 09, 2010 - 08:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Needs_o2,
In response to your question, I have been a rider of an '06 XB12X and an '02 Ultra since late '06.

What would you like to hear about?

You really can't compare them. Apples and oranges. There is some common ground however. I can pack a lot of stuff on the Uly and it will fly down the superslab, no doubt. It's even comfy enough to do hundreds of mile days in a row. I can't seem to trim down my camping stuff to make me happy two up. That's my problem and I'm dealing with it. It works well solo.
The Ultra will motate a two up camp that is fairly deluxe. (I like that.) It also will comfortably eat up hundreds of mile days and has in fact taken me on a trip that included two 1100 mile days back to back. As far as competition between the two, it's even narrower common ground but

Never Underestimate a Properly Operated FLH.

I'd love to type about this some more but I'm not sure I'm even yappin about what you want to know.
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F_skinner
Posted on Monday, August 09, 2010 - 09:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Jeff, the only way for him to decide is to ride both...
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Needs_o2
Posted on Monday, August 09, 2010 - 09:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Well here some more info.

He is 6'-7", and has only ridden dirt bikes, years ago.

I'm going to link him to this thread so he can read how the two worlds vary, from those that have spent a bit of time on both, unlike me.

So any info is good info!

p.s. the decision may not be up to him! lol
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Jerry_haughton
Posted on Monday, August 09, 2010 - 09:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

If it boils down to just one bike, the Uly is perhaps the most versatile bike out there.

Strokizator, serious question: In your opinion, what makes the Uly more versatile than a H-D bagger?

Never Underestimate a Properly Operated FLH.

Nice. : )

FB
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Nevrenuf
Posted on Monday, August 09, 2010 - 09:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)





it is like comparing apples to oranges and each one has it's purpose. and although i've never been on a track and never took a motorcycle riders course and wish i had, i'm not that bad of a rider and riding with jerry, makes me wish that i had. even on the uly, which is a very forgiving bike even when two up, i surely wouldn't have done the same on the ultra. i don't have any head set for music and no cruise control for the buells and that's when it's nice to have the ultra. with the outdoorsman tour pak and stock saddlebags on the uly, i do have more storage than the ultra. although the new saddle bags are supposed to be a little bigger on the fl's, i still don't think they compare to the uly's.
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Imonabuss
Posted on Monday, August 09, 2010 - 09:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

6'-7" with a dirt bike background? The Ulysses will be perfect for him. The EG will just make him feel old. The Uly's are truly wonderful highway bikes too. That long travel soft suspension just floats over highway stuff without ever wallowing.
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Jerry_haughton
Posted on Monday, August 09, 2010 - 10:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

6'-7" with a dirt bike background? The Ulysses will be perfect for him.

Agree.

The EG will just make him feel old.

I logged 550 miles on the Road King this weekend (much of it on roads better suited to the Ulys I was riding with), and when I finally shut down the bike last night I felt younger.

How odd.

FB
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Xbrad9r
Posted on Monday, August 09, 2010 - 11:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I am 6' 6" and I love my uly.
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86129squids
Posted on Tuesday, August 10, 2010 - 12:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

IIRC, the Uly standard bag set holds more junk than the bags on an Ultra.

If dude's that tall, he'll have to fold up like a lawn chair on an FL- it'll be tight on the Uly too.

I did see a homemade set of forward highway pegs on an Uly at Homecoming... they were KEWL.

My $.02 from back when I was a sales guy- sounds like a Uly candidate to me. Specially with a dirt background.


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Coolice
Posted on Tuesday, August 10, 2010 - 12:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I traded my 05 Road Glide for my first Uly, now have my second. A 2010 model, never regret it. Awesome bike, the Uly.
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86129squids
Posted on Tuesday, August 10, 2010 - 12:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

IIRC, Yellow Wolf spent some $$$ at Computrack to set up the suspension right on the GW- plus some $$$ on A/V recording to run through and record squids for their $$$.

Never got to ride with that dude, haven't seen him in several years, wonder what happened to him? A SERIOUSLY FAST DUDE.
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Tuesday, August 10, 2010 - 12:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

He not only paid to have his suspension upgraded, but he paid to have the ride height raised to increase the lean angle.

The story I heard was that he wanted a motorcycle but his wife didn't want him to have one. She finally relented and said he could have a Gold Wing thinking he couldn't get into much trouble with that.

The reason he has the yellow GW is that the yellow models were "super Old Wings" and came with better base suspension and a few other goodies.

My understanding was that when he ran the 106 runs of deals gap in 24 hours his wife made him hang up his spurs for good or pack his crap and get out.
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Danger_dave
Posted on Tuesday, August 10, 2010 - 12:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

They are both a 'lot of bike' if he's only ridden around a few paddocks too.

What's the skill level like?

In some cases a DR650 might be a better option.

To that end Ulys fall over a lot better than FLHs
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Danger_dave
Posted on Tuesday, August 10, 2010 - 12:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

They all handle OK - Wings, Triumph Rocket III, Victory Vision Glide, C109, if the rider has enough skill to deal it out.

However there's a point where intelligence kicks in and the cost of grinding away hard parts outweighs the wank of doing it. Or you get, or build, a more suitable bike.

For the big tankers it comes back to the height of the center of mass being as important as the actual mass of the vehicle.
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86129squids
Posted on Tuesday, August 10, 2010 - 01:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hahaha- yep, heard he did an Iron Butt on the Gap on that thing.

OK, not just a dude, let's say MUTANT.

Must have a great wife.
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86129squids
Posted on Tuesday, August 10, 2010 - 01:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)



thread hijak-

tell your bud to ride both for an hour, if possible.
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Dfishman
Posted on Tuesday, August 10, 2010 - 03:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I had a road king.Boring
I have a Uly. Exciting!
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Jerry_haughton
Posted on Tuesday, August 10, 2010 - 04:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I have a Road King. Not boring.
I ride with Ulys. Exciting!
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Danger_dave
Posted on Tuesday, August 10, 2010 - 05:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

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