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Cataract2
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 03, 2010 - 09:46 am: | 
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Boliver, that is not what this thread is for. If YOU want to debate that then start your own thread. |
Boliver
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 03, 2010 - 09:50 am: |
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Rwven,
I corrected my wording.So please answer the question if you will.Would you allow or instruct your children to cross an intersection with headphones on?LOL Gotcha..With all due respect it seems you just put your foot in your mouth.Kinda taste funky doesn't it?Don't you just hate learning a new lesson so late in life? |
Rwven
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 03, 2010 - 09:58 am: |
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Only if they can run fast enough to cause hearing damage due to wind noise. I would not let them use firearms without hearing protection. For that matter I wouldn't dress them ATGATT to cross the road either.
It's a matter of appropriate protection. |
Boliver
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 03, 2010 - 09:59 am: |
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Cataract2,
I suggest you join facebook then you can decide who post on your thread.OK? OK... |
Fahren
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 03, 2010 - 11:02 am: |
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Well, looking at a "middle ground," I'd say that the cheap foam earplugs (they still have good ANSI/OSHA whatever ratings) cut out wind noise, but I still hear the beautiful music of my Buells, and other "warning" sounds around me to alert me of vehicles, etc.
I never was comfortable even walking around with a walkman, so fuggedabout music for me when I'm riding. I, too am on my bike to hear it and to be in tune with it on the road. But I also find it useful and more pleasant to cancel the wind noise. I haven't tried tons of helmets, but I can't seem to get a good enough wind cancelling from any of them. |
Fordrox
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 03, 2010 - 12:00 pm: |
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Without throwing any more gasoline on the fire... Boliver shall I assume that when you drive your car/truck that you do NOT listen to the radio as it blocks the sounds around you? I did'nt think so. With music at a respectable volume I can hear just fine, I do however pause/mute the volume at red lights so I can hear everything.
(Message edited by fordrox on August 03, 2010) |
Whistler
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 03, 2010 - 01:48 pm: |
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Between printing presses, various machinery, aircraft, vehicles, loud music, gun noise, and age, my hearing has slipped dramatically the last year or so. Under the right conditions (soft voice with lots of background noise or my wife giving me general instructions) I cannot make out much of anything said. I think I have a good fitting quality helmet. To me, there is a difference between low speed city riding and highway speed riding when it comes to wind noise. City is fine but higher speed wind noise is not only loud, but a distraction. Plus I can't really hear the bike anyhow, just wind. In my case, ear plugs make all the difference. Using the plugs I mentioned earlier in this thread (tried a lot of different types but these are the ones that work best for my ears), wind noise is almost totally eliminated and I can easily hear and feel the bike and traffic. The plugs have made for a more enjoyable ride. Only problem is I tend to ride about 10-15 mph faster now. Ear plugs are not everyone's cup of tea but I like them. |
Gwb
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 03, 2010 - 02:30 pm: |
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Whistler, those earplugs don't seem to have anything to grip when removing them.
I'm a long-time user of earplugs. Once in a while I get a little over-aggressive when inserting them. I carry tweezers with my road-side tools, so I've never had a problem removing my earplugs: I have on rare occasions used the tweezers.
What about those plugs you use? Ever had a problem?
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Whistler
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 03, 2010 - 03:07 pm: |
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Gwb - When I remove these plugs I start peeling them down and away starting at the top of plug. I go slowly and after about halfway out I can just ball up the remainder and put them away in the small container. When I insert this plug I knead to soften for a few seconds before throughly squashing the thing somewhat in but mostly around until the ear hole is entirely covered. More like you are covering the hole rather than filling the hole. Once fully covered its easy to tell if you have a good seal. I also like that the seal will not break loose when I put on my helmet and adjust my floppy ears. Hope that is useful. |
Rwven
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 03, 2010 - 03:14 pm: |
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When I use earplugs instead of earbuds I use the kind with the cords on them. |
Trevd
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 03, 2010 - 04:06 pm: |
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I actually hear what's going on around me better with earplugs on after a while because my ears aren't ringing because of the wind noise.
I'm only 38 years old, but have some tinnitus most likely due to riding without ear protection from the age of 16 until about 28. I've been wearing earplugs pretty much every time I ride now for about 10 years, and I don't think my tinnitus has gotten worse.
I've also found that wearing earplugs makes longer rides much less tiring, and less stressful as well.
Obviously everyone can choose to wear earplugs or not, but remember - That ringing you hear in your ears after a long ride is your hearing being damaged. |
Littlebuggles
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 03, 2010 - 04:33 pm: |
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Fordrox made the same point I was going to Boliver. You apparently assume that one MUST have the volume turned to levels that drown out all outside noise when they use ear buds. I don't understand why you'd think that.
Assuming you listen to the radio in your car or truck, do you turn the volume to a similar level when listening to music?
The expansion foam earbuds cancel out noise sufficiently that they allow me to enjoy music at a level that I can also hear my engine and traffic just fine. I turn them louder when I go running that riding as I need much more motivation for that activity (and I use a nature trail for that, so playing in traffic is not a hazard ).
I also do not let my child play in traffic, headphones or otherwise.
Why so much heat? This is an internet discussion, if you think a person you don't know, halfway across the nation urging you to try and protect yourself is offensive then perhaps you could consider ignoring them, or even politely thanking them and going on with your life.
-Mike |
Cataract2
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 03, 2010 - 06:22 pm: |
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Boliver, how about keeping to the topic and not trying to hijack someones thread with some bull crap that it wasn't originally about? Take that juvenile s*** someplace else. |
Xbrad9r
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 03, 2010 - 10:41 pm: |
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I thought the ear plug stuff was junk until a guy that rides at work gave me a pair and pretty much demanded that I try them. I have not ridden a day since without ear protection, and I think I actually hear the important things (motor sound, traffic, etc) better than without them. I had no idea how much wind noise,"whistling", road noise I was subjecting my ears to until I started wearing the plugs. I actually don't feel so worn down when I finish riding now. |
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