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Firebolt32
| | Posted on Thursday, July 08, 2010 - 09:51 am: | 
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He says he doesn't want it back Grumpy. I'll probably be leaving it in his driveway come that time.... |
Vampress
| | Posted on Thursday, July 08, 2010 - 10:46 am: |
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I'm not an overly religious person, but if you look a little further into the soul of the situation...Maybe the issue isn't whether you should take the bike or not? Maybe the gesture was the gift in itself? It could have been a sign/message/call it what you will (Some may call it a test of intestinal fortitude)to make you take stock of where you are at? You have certainly taken it seriously, and I think reassessed life in general by the sound of it. Remember to be a little selfish too though. It can sometimes be about getting what you want, not taking what you can get. Myself, I would politely decline, explain and get the Buell you really want come tax time. Kudos for putting moral thought into it, whatever you decide is right. |
Reducati
| | Posted on Thursday, July 08, 2010 - 10:49 am: |
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Oh Lord wont you buy me a Mercedes Benz...my friends all drive Porsches, i must make amends.... |
Mr_grumpy
| | Posted on Thursday, July 08, 2010 - 11:12 am: |
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He says he doesn't want it back Grumpy. I'll probably be leaving it in his driveway come that time....
If that's the case, I would still do the same thing, return it to him when you have a bike of your own.
If he protests, point out to him that he can spread more joy by loaning the bike to many, than by giving it to one. |
Blackm2
| | Posted on Thursday, July 08, 2010 - 11:15 am: |
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My line of thinking is right along with Vampress. This friend is doing this in hopes that you will pay it forward it some manner, what that is he is letting you decide, but most likely he wants it paid back to him if you take the bike. So you complain endlessly and you are a hater(I am assuming from your original post), your friend doesn't want to hear it anymore, and being a minister offers up his softail that is twice the value of what your Buell was. Take religion and god out of the equation and ask yourself if you would do the same thing for a friend, a real friend, not a work acquaintance. I think just the offer was enough, hopefully to let you know that someone cares about you enough to say, get real, it isn't about the bike, as you know bikes come and go. It's about the relationships formed and how you treat others that make the difference in life. |
86129squids
| | Posted on Thursday, July 08, 2010 - 12:09 pm: |
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The Lord works in mysterious ways indeed, even through us all on the Badweb...
As you live with the decision to take this incredibly generous gift, think hard and think daily about your friend and what you could do someday to reciprocate- as trite as the saying has become, what would Jesus do with this bike? (Answer #1: LOTSA miles...)
Also- consider that the really precious gift isn't the bike itself, but the incredible generosity of spirit that your friend has demonstrated! What a guy- all of us here on Badweb and all the folks that know him should take note and aspire to do good on this scale. |
Reepicheep
| | Posted on Thursday, July 08, 2010 - 12:11 pm: |
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Now go enjoy the bike!  |
Faseljd
| | Posted on Thursday, July 08, 2010 - 02:11 pm: |
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Why would you need to take title to the bike to enjoy it? Ride it till you get your own then return it. |
Firebolt32
| | Posted on Thursday, July 08, 2010 - 02:37 pm: |
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Why would you need to take title to the bike to enjoy it? Ride it till you get your own then return it.
Because I lucked out in my accident and the guy hit ME. I was riding a bike that was titled and insured in my father's name. The insurance company led us to believe if anything happened we'd be fine. Well, that wasn't the case. If I could afford a great lawyer and didn't receive such a hefty pay check I would have sued them for basically lying to me to get their business. I'd much rather title and insure it under my name for the time being and when I get my Buell do all the paper work back into Mike's name. I'm not running that risk again. |
Blackm2
| | Posted on Thursday, July 08, 2010 - 03:16 pm: |
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Oh, so this was your Dad's bike? If you were on the policy, then there shouldn't have been a problem at all. In any case, the other parties insurance should be picking up the tab for everything. If they aren't, then most personal injury attorneys work on a contingency basis, as in they don't get paid unless you get paid. Now I'm confused as to why you are taking a bike from someone, when the original bike wasn't even registered to you? You did did say you got paid out for pain and suffering right? Enough to BUY another bike of your own? You yourself said you'd "feel guilty for taken this guy, my friends bike." That should be a dead giveaway right there to NOT take the bike. |
Andymnelson
| | Posted on Thursday, July 08, 2010 - 04:01 pm: |
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" perhaps do favors for him too. "
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Firebolt32
| | Posted on Thursday, July 08, 2010 - 04:27 pm: |
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Legally it was my Dad's bike. He bought for me, he paid the payments, I paid the insurance even though I wasn't the insured rider. We told the our insurance company this and they said nothing. The day we called about the accident they told us tough sh!t. The guy's insurance who hit me did pay out however. They paid the max of the truck's owner's policy as well as the driver's policy. (Company truck) Yeah, I got paid enough to buy every Buell Brandon H/D had on their floor. If I was single, HELL YES I would have bought a new bike that day. I took care of my family's debt first and really have been looking for a Buell to rebuild to give me something to do while my leg got to 100%. The Doc cleared me two weeks ago.
The orginal guilt came before Mike and I really sat and talked about it. We was telling me about what he wants to do as people are hoping on and off of the elevator at work. It's a PIA to get back in the building through security so he left it as "Dude, I'm giving you my bike. Suck it up." He leaves for the day and I'm left thinking about it all night.
Today we kicked everyone out of the office and really talked. He really only rides it to keep things lubed up. He feels I'll ride it and enjoy it more than he would/does. I sincerely don't think HE cares. I would never do it but he told me I could burn, trade it in or sell it and pocket the cash. It got to the point to where it seemed he doesn't want it and God told him "If your not going to use it give it to someone who would." |
Mr_grumpy
| | Posted on Thursday, July 08, 2010 - 04:56 pm: |
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Hey, quit torturing yourself.
It doesn't matter a hoot what anybody on this board says, including me.
Do what YOU think is right, it's your own conscience you have to live with.
Personally I'd feel honoured to have a friend who feels that way.
Come to think of it I do have friends like that, Its a good feeling ain't it? |
Firebolt32
| | Posted on Thursday, July 08, 2010 - 05:05 pm: |
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Come to think of it I do have friends like that, Its a good feeling ain't it?
It is! When my wife is done feeding the kid she is taking me to pick it up.
I know it doesn't matter what others think, but I like bouncing stuff off people. Just how I do things I guess. |
Johnnylunchbox
| | Posted on Thursday, July 08, 2010 - 05:06 pm: |
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Accept the bike, sell it, and use the money to buy two older Kawasaki Concours (bulletproof bikes by the way). Give him one, and you have a riding buddy for many miles. It'll be faster and handle better than the softail too. |
Tramp
| | Posted on Thursday, July 08, 2010 - 06:51 pm: |
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I want to change my answer.
I concur with senor Lunchbox's, above.
God loves a win-win. |
Iamike
| | Posted on Friday, July 09, 2010 - 09:51 am: |
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It is quite refreshing to see the generosity of people in situations like this. The people on Badweb are perfect examples and that's why I continue to come here.
I get tired of dealing with people who are always trying to make a buck off a situation. It really torques me off when someones takes someone elses generosity and then tries to profit (like the give-aways from Homecoming showing up on Ebay). |
Xodot
| | Posted on Friday, July 09, 2010 - 10:31 am: |
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The respect of the members' replies posted to your question is wonderful.
Virtue is more important than "stuff". When a gift is gladly given, it benefits the heart of both the giver and the receiver.(I find it more of a challenge to "get" than to "give" so I understand your quandary.)
My advice - take the bike. In doing so you allow both you and the pastor to become more virtuous from the experience. |
Swampy
| | Posted on Friday, July 09, 2010 - 09:16 pm: |
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You are probably sparing your friend Mike a horrific accident on the bike.
Go get your own bike, when it is time you will have one, stop being miserable!
I was miserable today and because I wouldn't go out and buy a $30 wading pool and now I am missing a weekend naked in the back yard with my wife, it was my own fault, I am bumming around angry with the world and now I am getting NOTHING!
Get over it! NOW! Before it is too late! |
Doug_s
| | Posted on Saturday, July 10, 2010 - 02:39 am: |
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i'm w/vampress & m2 - it was the gesture he was offering you, not necessarily the bike. if it were me, i'd feel guilty if i ever took something like that from someone in this particular friendship scenario. now, i have 2-3 good friends i have known since boyhood; if any one of us got in a real jam, and needed help, i think the others would step up and try to help, and we might actually be pissed of if the help was turned down. your situation doesn't seem to be that kind of friendship, tho.
and, it sounds like you were made more than whole financially by the insurance companies, even if it wasn't the specific company you held the policy with. you decided to do something else w/the money other than replace the bike.
something just doesn't seem right to me about taking this bike, in this situation. but, maybe it's yust me...
ymmv,
doug s. |
Jake318
| | Posted on Saturday, July 10, 2010 - 02:54 am: |
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Dont forget its a Harley ! maybe it broke down on him so many times he doesnt have the heart to sell it to anyone.
Maybe he asked God to make his Harley reliable and Not break down?
God : I will walk across water then turn that water into wine ,but come on! arnt we asking for a bit much? |
Littlebuggles
| | Posted on Saturday, July 10, 2010 - 05:45 am: |
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Dude gave you a motorcycle?!?!
A lot of people like to say they'd die for their family, or their friends, or their dog... and that's all well and good, but who will ever have the opportunity to prove that? Isn't it better, heroic even, to live for all of them instead of looking for reasons to die for them? It seems like that's what your buddy's working at. Well, mostly his relationship with his Maker, but then the rest would just fall into line with that, that's my take on it anyway.
Introspection, careful thought and an attitude check (sounds like you've done this) are definitely required here.
If you can't hear it, maybe you should look and listen for that little voice that told him to pass on a gift, and see what gifts you can pass on as well.
I agree with what many have said, Swordsman, Panhead, Vamps, Jlunchbox, Tramp... I also agree that it's nice to have opinions of others sometimes, but ultimately you are the one there, and only you know your truest feelings, impressions and the relationships involved in this offer.
It's very trusting of you to put this out here on the web.
Ride safe. |
Tramp
| | Posted on Saturday, July 10, 2010 - 11:34 am: |
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...This just in:
Gabriel tweeted me this AM- tells me God wants you to accept the scoot, then pass it on to me.
It's out of my hands, now-
God's will.
I'll ping you with insurance details, etc. |
Firebolt32
| | Posted on Saturday, July 10, 2010 - 11:49 am: |
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Last night I went out with Mike's brother John and his wife. I asked John if Mike had talked to him about it. He stated weeks ago Mike had brought it up to him and they sat down to talk about it. John felt it was a good thing to do. He told me last night not to feel bad, Mike doesn't ride and it was actually given to him through an unpaid debt. So I took the bike. Some here may think I'm crazy for doing so and that's fine. It's obvious he doesn't ride it. It's a 99 and has 12k miles on it. My Dad's is an 08 with damn near 20k. I've been blessed with a gift! |
Tramp
| | Posted on Saturday, July 10, 2010 - 12:38 pm: |
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Do something nice for the pastor's church... |
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