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Blake
Posted on Friday, July 02, 2010 - 09:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Good news I hope...

NASA may be shrewdly planning on a new Republican controlled congress extending the shuttle program. I sure hope so, and I hope they are able to get it extended until we have another manned launch system up and operating. By delaying the shuttle's final launch to a date after the new congress is seated in January 2011, NASA will keep things up and running thus facilitating a possible reversal by congress of the President's edict to kill off American manned space flight.

NASA said Thursday it was postponing the final two space shuttle launches before the program is phased out, citing a delay in needed equipment.

The US space agency set November 1 for the launch of space shuttle Discovery's STS-133 mission, which had been planned for September 16.

NASA said the shuttle Endeavour's STS-134 mission was rescheduled to February 26 from late November.


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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Friday, July 02, 2010 - 09:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You can buy votes with the space shuttle.
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Oldog
Posted on Friday, July 02, 2010 - 10:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

some where in africa, a village is missing an idiot

Nasa gave us cool stuff like velcro -
and skype

What did the pres and the current fed give is, A-R-F-M A Real Fracking Mess.
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Froggy
Posted on Friday, July 02, 2010 - 11:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Oldog, the swiss invented Velcro in the 40's. NASA's use just made it famous.

http://www.sti.nasa.gov/tto/spinfaq.htm#spinfaq12
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Court
Posted on Friday, July 02, 2010 - 12:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

>>> I sure hope so

I do too.

You could not CREATE a group of idiots equal to the current crop.

I loved the mouthspew in Racine this week . . . . "If it weren't for the $878,000,000,000 we spent unemployment could be at 15% so we'd better spend another $1,000,000,000,000 to keep it from going to 13%"

Then the SOB's turn around and tell us where the net $1,000,000,000,000 is coming from . . . . investing Social Security in the stock market under full control of the federal government.

You really can't make this shit up.
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Court
Posted on Friday, July 02, 2010 - 12:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Highlight of the week . . .by the way . . had to be Pelosi . . . "unemployment checks stimulate the economy".



Brining new meaning to the term "had her brains out".
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Swordsman
Posted on Friday, July 02, 2010 - 12:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Damn, I love a pretty girl that's smart to boot.

~SM
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Buellkowski
Posted on Friday, July 02, 2010 - 12:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Space exploration isn't enumerated in the Constitution. It's a misappropriation of taxpayer money.

GWB retired the shuttle in favor of the Constellation program. The shuttle program's post-Columbia disaster flight expenses drained NASA funds from Constellation. Constellation would cost over $200B to develop and $1B per flight.

Is this a justify-the-anti-Obama-position-no-matter-what thing? Is it bruised pride? Hard to swallow having to book launch space with the Russians? Some days you get to drive a Cadillac, some days you have to drive the Hyundai. These days seem to be Hyundai days to me.

(Message edited by buellkowski on July 02, 2010)
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Drawkward
Posted on Friday, July 02, 2010 - 01:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

This is why we need NASA:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQhNZENMG1o

Most of the people I work with here at JSC would agree. And none of us are losing our jobs (Space Station flight controllers).

This new plan is ridiculous and not forward thinking at all. This administration, and ANY administration that supports it is a sham.
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Court
Posted on Friday, July 02, 2010 - 01:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

>>>>Damn, I love a pretty girl that's smart to boot.

Then you'd understand my infatuation with LISA RANDALL. . . arguably one of the smartest gals I've ever imagined.



You meet some very cool folks in higher education . . . even if you catch a ton of crap on Badweb.

I'm gonna keep teaching.

: )
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Moxnix
Posted on Friday, July 02, 2010 - 01:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Docendo Discimus, motto of my alma mater: We Learn by Teaching

And, with instructors like that, stay awake in class.
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Friday, July 02, 2010 - 01:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Some days you get to drive a Cadillac, some days you have to drive the Hyundai. These days seem to be Hyundai days to me.

We'll all be driving a Hyundai at the rate we're spending.

We could have had 5 Constellation programs and several dozen flights booked for what has been wasted.
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Buellkowski
Posted on Friday, July 02, 2010 - 01:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Don't get me wrong, I strongly support space exploration. But I believe manned programs are extremely expensive for the amount of science they produce. For example, the over-achieving rovers on Mars have beamed home much more data than anyone imagined they could for a fraction of Constellation's expense.

Manned exploration is a risk-fraught luxury we don't seem to be able to afford right now. Perhaps we'll be able to sometime soon.
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Drkside79
Posted on Friday, July 02, 2010 - 01:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well court you and I can agree on that one. WOW
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J2blue
Posted on Friday, July 02, 2010 - 02:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Court, who was the gal in the first video? Is it the same lady?
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Pwnzor
Posted on Friday, July 02, 2010 - 02:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hey... Buellkowski... there are many things not enumerated in the constitution...

Ever read it? Really? Try the 9th amendment on for size, and get back to me on that.

Those two brainy broads really turn me on. Holy smokes.

GO NASA!
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Buellkowski
Posted on Friday, July 02, 2010 - 02:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I fear my is being misinterpreted. That'll teach me to troll.
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Pwnzor
Posted on Friday, July 02, 2010 - 03:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

After I posted that, I sort of figured (too late) that your poke was just a poke and not a jab....

LOL it's all good.
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Stevasaurus
Posted on Friday, July 02, 2010 - 04:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I've been biting my tongue this morning when I saw this topic. I can't bite it anymore.

GOOD FOR NASA! There always needs to be one generation to mentor the next, from Gemini to Apollo to Shuttle to ISS and beyond. It is impossible to write procedures for all things necessary on ventures like this, so one person can magically pick up where others left off. The effort necessary to revitalize NASA's momentum, should the current administration be successful in unplugging it, would be too great to overcome.

I'm proud to say I am an alum of the same school that turned out Dick Ruttan (Cal Poly, S. L. O.). The guy is an inspiration. I still don't see him, or Branson, or any private venture filling the gap that NASA would leave behind, even for maintaining LEO objectives.

Then I watched the video from the link that Drawkward posted above. As I type this, I'm 41 years old and can tell you that when I was young you couldn't see the walls of my bedroom because they were plastered over with every Apollo poster I could find, and I poured over every book I could get my hands on about the topic whether I could comprehend what I was reading or even read it at all. But THAT is what inspired me to become what I am today. I even got a little misty-eyed because Mr. Tyson hit the nail so squarely on the head in that video.

Meanwhile, I just watched a 25% reduction in force occur right in front of my eyes yesterday at my job. We make the precision rotary actuators that keep spacecraft's (mostly satellites) solar panels pointed at the sun and antennas pointed wherever they're supposed to point. Commercial satellite orders are down. Constellation is gone. Sales forecasts are off by over 30% ($10 million) next year as opposed to this year. My major customer is bracing for a huge RIF again this year, because of Constellation. Once the switch for this kind of know-how gets shut off, you just can't switch it back on.

I don't care if NASA's hardware shortage is actual, or the equivalent of a "material filibuster". I can only hope it has the effect mentioned in Blake's original post.

Okay, rant off. Thankfully, I have work to do.
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Buellkowski
Posted on Friday, July 02, 2010 - 04:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

FWIW, a transcript of the President's speech at Kennedy Space Center last April. He acknowledges the criticism of his decision to end Constellation, but offers additional insight into his plan for NASA.

(Message edited by buellkowski on July 02, 2010)
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Road_thing
Posted on Friday, July 02, 2010 - 05:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Wow. Put a pair of boots on that lady and she'd be perfect...

rt
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Court
Posted on Friday, July 02, 2010 - 06:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I've got pics of her in boots . . . don't get me started.

: )

We now return you to your regularly scheduled thread. I've got to go study.
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F22raptor
Posted on Friday, July 02, 2010 - 06:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Leave the Politics out of this,with-out NASA we would be France,with left-coast tree-huggin',liberal brain-dead,leadin the way.......
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Court
Posted on Friday, July 02, 2010 - 08:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I've got an Uncle who is an Astronaut and NASA has ALWAYS been about politics . . . interesting though was how some amazing Scientists, like him, managed to do such amazing things.

My thoughts about NASA is that it's less about "where we flew" and more about how we learned to think.

I was one of the SMSG "test babies" and it's amazing to me how little math and science students are currently learning.
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Sifo
Posted on Monday, July 05, 2010 - 09:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I've got an Uncle who is an Astronaut and NASA has ALWAYS been about politics . . .

What could possibly make you say that?

Well maybe this...

quote:

NASA Administrator Charles Bolden said in a recent interview that his "foremost" mission as the head of America's space exploration agency is to improve relations with the Muslim world.




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Kenm123t
Posted on Monday, July 05, 2010 - 09:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Court Put down the pics of Lisa in boots it could kill you!
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Court
Posted on Monday, July 05, 2010 - 10:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

>>>>Court Put down the pics of Lisa in boots it could kill you!

That's an ACCURATE statement !
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Sifo
Posted on Tuesday, July 06, 2010 - 09:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Somehow trying to establish better relations with any specific religion seems to go against the idea of the government not promoting a religion. Seems like very thin ice regarding the first amendment, not that anyone seems to care about this sort of thing anymore.
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Hootowl
Posted on Tuesday, July 06, 2010 - 10:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"I've got to go study"

Is that what they're calling it these days?
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Glitch
Posted on Tuesday, July 06, 2010 - 10:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


NASA's new objective:
Muslim Outreach

You can't make this stuff up!
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Drkside79
Posted on Tuesday, July 06, 2010 - 10:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Please post the picture in boots
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Court
Posted on Tuesday, July 06, 2010 - 06:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Great article in a recent magazine about the hot trend on college campuses . . . seducing faculty members.

: )

At my age . . . I'm immune from this childish crap.






My Uncle has "diminished tolerance" for some of the political bullshit and the salary structure so he quit NASA for a number of years.

He became Chief Pathologist at Eisenhower Medical Center in Palm Desert and opened a Pathology lab. He derived significant income, and satisfaction, from inventing and patenting pathological equipment. He also bought 4 King Airs and started an Air Charter.

Cool part was that NASA could not fly the Shuttle without him at the Cape . . ditto for the MIR Program (he maintains an office in Moscow as well) so they'd send a baby blue T-38 to CA to pick him up and tote him to Houston and Florida.

He made himself, for a period of about 9 years, a "contractor" and quoted them "per mission" rates.

Getting the idea that the entire family are trouble makers?

: )
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Crackhead
Posted on Wednesday, July 07, 2010 - 08:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"Great article in a recent magazine about the hot trend on college campuses . . . seducing faculty members.

: )

At my age . . . I'm immune from this childish crap."

You never to old for childish crap. It's like your saying to old to laugh at fart jokes.
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Court
Posted on Wednesday, July 07, 2010 - 09:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

>>>> It's like your saying to old to laugh at fart jokes.

Wait . . . I NEVER said that!

: )

Braaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaap
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