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Sotipnomon
Posted on Thursday, June 24, 2010 - 09:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)



Values are up a tic from what they published in the magazine but here is a link.

http://www.mcnews.com/mcn/usedbike/2010MarUsedBks. pdf
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Augustus74
Posted on Thursday, June 24, 2010 - 10:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Wow! Look at those 1125 values!
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A10tankkill
Posted on Thursday, June 24, 2010 - 10:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Sorry, but ROFL!!! Looking at a few of those I can only laugh and see a definite bias toward price inflation to maybe sell a good story. I see quite a few I've looked at over the last year, not necessarily Buell, that have sold for quite a bit less(thousands) than the quotes shown. The NADA value they claim is nothing close to what I see when I pull up the NADA value. I see a '09 1125R as $8000 average retail and $6080 low retail. That is "RETAIL", not consumer to consumer, and retail is much different from what I've seen over various lines, not just Buell compared to these values. Ultimately it is a base value, but the value is obviously what someone can get from the seller, or the seller can get from the buyer. I suppose I have overstepped my rights by questioning price, but too bad. Toss me out, buyers have rights too, last time I checked.
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Trouble_enabler
Posted on Thursday, June 24, 2010 - 11:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

It's on the internet so it MUST be true..
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Reepicheep
Posted on Thursday, June 24, 2010 - 12:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Looks ugly to me also... listed the 9sx I just sold for about $1000 more than anyone would have given for it, and listed the XB12X I just bought for $2000 more than I paid for it.

But it listed a 90something KLR-250 for like $600... no way you will find that deal on a solid runner, that was probably close to $500-$800 under valued.
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Sotipnomon
Posted on Thursday, June 24, 2010 - 12:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Thanks 10tank,

All I am trying to get out there is that most of the bikes on this forum are priced out of the market.

We have to remember that DEMAND, not enthusiasm sets value.

I am totally aware of the tactic that the bike has to be for sale to keep momma, or whomever happy. Just let everyone know that is what you are up to with a "this is just a feeler" or "the wife says it has to go" Then, when your asking price is 2k over value we all get it. We read your story, look at your pics, hope the ploy works for you and move on.

When someone is asking why there is no interest in their bike for a "steal it now" or "blowout" price that is hundreds or thousands over a published, (by one of the most respected motorcycle publications on the planet) base average market value, (that was provided to them by the N.A.D.A.) I just don't see how anyone is served by telling them to hang on and a buyer will come along.

They might, it is true. However...

What is wrong with low prices? Think how many new Buellers might be generated by a good selection of $2k priced tubers. The more of these machines we can keep from being chopped, the more of them will be around later.

Or, if someone throws an offer on a bike that has been for sale for over a month with absolutely zero visible purchase interest that once shipping is paid would put the price of the bike over NADA could we please not attack them for having their head up their arse? Really, who's head appears to be up whose ass here? I'm confused.

I stand behind my opinion that good x1 will sell for around $2k.

If I am wrong, not if you THINK I am wrong, please let me know.
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Sotipnomon
Posted on Thursday, June 24, 2010 - 12:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Buell-Lightning-X1- LIGHNING-1203CC-2001-X1-LIGHNING-BLACK-1203CC-_W0Q QcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem35aa36800eQQitemZ230488965 134QQptZUSQ5fmotorcycles

I'll bet anyone a dollar that nobody bids on it.
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Jramsey
Posted on Thursday, June 24, 2010 - 12:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I own a X1 and a S3T that I'll set on fire and roast marsh mellows on their ashes before I'd sell them for 2K.
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A10tankkill
Posted on Thursday, June 24, 2010 - 01:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Jramsey, That's great. If you can afford to do that rather than have cash, you are in an infinitely better cash position than most. Buyers, and sellers are cash poor these days, so the price that they can both accept is the price of the market at that point in time. In 2, 5, 10 years a few of these models maybe worth a premium due to rarity. A few won't.
I'll avoid crapping on threads. If a seller has the right to throw out a price they want, instead of what maybe realistic to start, then a buyer has the same right to throw out a lowball offer. If the seller can whine about "no lowballers" then the buyer can whine about "stupid prices".
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Froggy
Posted on Thursday, June 24, 2010 - 01:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Wow, I paid the same for my 09 CR last summer brand new without incentives! I will sell mine tomorrow if someone came up to me with $9100!
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Froggy
Posted on Thursday, June 24, 2010 - 01:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Also this doesn't belong in the for sale section, so I moved it to the quick board.
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A10tankkill
Posted on Thursday, June 24, 2010 - 02:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Froggy, I think that makes the point. You paid what it was worth at the time, as well as what you felt value was, and the seller(dealer?) could let it go for. I just get irritated on both sides seeing deragatory comments, about asking price as well as offers being way off base.
I've walked out of car dealers when they play their games of give me an offer and then act offended by my offer. I don't look to lowball, but I do look to put the deal in my favor. I believe it is my money and I know where I want to go price wise. I don't chase prices, but I am going to get the best price I can just like the seller. If someone is asking $8000 for an item valued at $5000, I may put in an offer figuring they are trying to game the system, but if they are at $8000 for an item with a value roughly +/- $500, I won't bother if I know my budget is realistically only $6000 or less. I'd be out of line just like the guy asking $8000 for a $5000 value. He can ask, I can offer, but there is no reason for people to act like jerkoffs over the process, unless someone is intentionally screwing around.
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A10tankkill
Posted on Thursday, June 24, 2010 - 02:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'll add I was going to pay $7999 at a dealer for an '08 1125R a couple months before the announcement and I would have been happy with that price today. I ended up backing off as my youngest got into a soccer program(yes soccer, not sure I like the sport yet) that cost a load of cash up front. ever since I've had one thing after another killing my cash.
If anyone wants to get rid of an 1125R for $3500, I can do it now, other wise I'm just screwed for having fun for awhile.
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Brinnutz
Posted on Thursday, June 24, 2010 - 02:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Someone got their panties in a bundle and is trying to justify it. lol
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Doug_s
Posted on Thursday, June 24, 2010 - 06:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'll bet anyone a dollar that nobody bids on it.

well, as of 630pm eastern, 4 bids; it's up to $2600. i will be surprised if someone offers the $4.5k buy it now; i wonder what the reserve is...

doug s.
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Americanmadexb
Posted on Thursday, June 24, 2010 - 06:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

98 S1 for $2165.. YES PLEASE!
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Guy_glover
Posted on Thursday, June 24, 2010 - 08:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Sold my 2001 x1 about 6 months ago for $5500 . 21,000 miles but in good shape.Called a few dealers about 1125,s on find a bike and they where asking $12,400. Once the new ones are gone I can see the used ones selling for $8000 or better.
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