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86129squids
| | Posted on Thursday, June 24, 2010 - 12:21 am: | 
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HUNnnnnnH?  |
Trojan
| | Posted on Thursday, June 24, 2010 - 05:12 am: |
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Froggy, your cartoon misses out an important piece of information (and one that Obama doesn't seem to mention much either).
BP is no longer a British company (and hasn't been for many years). 40% of shareholders are US companies and individuals, 40% are British pension and investment funds and the remaining 20% worldwide investors, which makes BP a truly multinational conglomerate in much the same way as most other major oil companies.
The fact that Halliburton and other US contractors are as deep into this and as responsible as BP seems to have been 'glossed over' in some kind of jingoistic crusade to make the BP CEO responsible for worldwide ecological disasters, and last weeks congressional hearing was painful to watch (why ask questions that nobody can answer yet and then accuse him of stonewalling?).
There were certainly short cuts made to save money in this case but then I'll bet that the same thing happens on almost every drilling rig in the world at some time or another. Fortunately for Exxon/Mobil, Shell etc they haven't been caught yet (unless you include Nigeria, but then most western commentators don't). |
Hootowl
| | Posted on Thursday, June 24, 2010 - 09:13 am: |
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+1 Trojan. I cringe every time our "leaders" call someone in to "testify" (read bitch at) |
Froggy
| | Posted on Thursday, June 24, 2010 - 09:22 am: |
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Trojan, I didn't make the comic, I saw it on the web and thought it was hilarious, so I posted it complete with inaccuracy and all  |
Swordsman
| | Posted on Thursday, June 24, 2010 - 09:29 am: |
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Say we detonate a nuke under ground ( after drilling a relief well, we don't need the nuke, you realize? ) and it causes a major cascade release of methane. Worst case scenario has New Orleans, or Tampa, or Mobile, go under a flood of flame in a poorly thought out effort to stop a minor oil leak.
Now that's a biblical disaster.
That would be Hex's proof of God right there. "Well, the flood didn't purge New Orleans, let's try some fire."
Same elements used to destroy the world, and in the same order (if you believe Revelations, anyway... fire still pending), just on a smaller scale.
Oh, wait, Hex is gone? Missed that earlier.....
I can't recall him ever really "looking for answers". Most of it seemed to be mocking others under the guise of intellectual debate.
~SM
(Message edited by Swordsman on June 24, 2010) |
Pwnzor
| | Posted on Thursday, June 24, 2010 - 02:48 pm: |
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sasquatch! |
Moxnix
| | Posted on Friday, June 25, 2010 - 11:42 am: |
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Psst, Hex. I found a substitute for our entertainment during your absence.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=baoUTXDfTvo&feature =related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5uJtVAeHMc&feature =related |
Slaughter
| | Posted on Friday, June 25, 2010 - 12:02 pm: |
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Since we're on the Quickboard and are just trolling anyways:
quote:Epicurus
Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?
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Reepicheep
| | Posted on Friday, June 25, 2010 - 12:31 pm: |
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quote:Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent.
That's where Epicurus got it wrong. The answer lies in freedom, freewill, glory, and genuine love.
If God wanted us to be sheep, he would have stopped when he got there. |
Hootowl
| | Posted on Friday, June 25, 2010 - 01:49 pm: |
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And all this time I though epicurious meant you wanted to try all different kinds of food.  |
Aesquire
| | Posted on Friday, June 25, 2010 - 08:53 pm: |
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If you wish to disprove God, please use the Hitch Hikers Guide Babel Fish excuse.
Of course that only gets rid of the Catholic God, since they are the ones that came up with the "no proof" argument. I assume the Baptist, Evangelical, and Greek Gods are fine.
Hootowl, Epicurus IS where that try new food thing got named. ( it was probably started by a guy who got fed sloth too many times.... )
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epicurus |
Ft_bstrd
| | Posted on Friday, June 25, 2010 - 10:31 pm: |
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Epicurus provided only a limited scope analysis.
It's like looking at the right fragment of space absent of stars and declaring space to be utterly empty.
The only way to have a world without evil is to deny man the right to choose right or wrong.
This means man without reason or free will.
He might have obtained tranquility and freedom from fear but at the cost of reason.
Man as robot. Who is God then? |
Bikertrash05
| | Posted on Friday, June 25, 2010 - 11:24 pm: |
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Wow, drinking with Bob, I think he needs another drink!
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Slaughter
| | Posted on Saturday, June 26, 2010 - 12:07 am: |
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Ramen! |
Court
| | Posted on Saturday, June 26, 2010 - 08:18 am: |
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Noodles! |
Sifo
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 29, 2010 - 08:39 pm: |
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I think BO was literally waiting to see if God would take care of it. Glad to see that he is finally allowing international help. It only took 70 FREAKIN' DAYS!
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/US-accepts-internati onal-apf-4104246595.html?x=0&.v=2 |
Hootowl
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 30, 2010 - 09:34 am: |
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BO hates sea creatures. |
86129squids
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 30, 2010 - 04:05 pm: |
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Cut the Gulf some slack. |
Blake
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 30, 2010 - 09:11 pm: |
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Matt,
"The fact that Halliburton and other US contractors are as deep into this and as responsible as BP"
It was the Haliburton representative on board the Deepwater Horizon who questioned the BP cementing plan and advised strongly that it was not best practice.
It was the BP manager on the rig who insisted that Transocean and Haliburton do as he wanted.
Haliburton is blameless. Transocean is not blamess, but BP is THE major guilty party in this fiasco as it was their reckless, ill-advised, do it on the cheap shortcut to well closure that led to the disaster.
You are WAY out of line trying to blame Haliburton.
"I'll bet that the same thing happens on almost every drilling rig in the world at some time or another."
You'd lose that bet. None of the rigs I worked would have tolerated such risky shortcutting. |
Blake
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 30, 2010 - 09:12 pm: |
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And if I were on a rig and mud and gas were blowing out of the riser, I'd have said •••• you to the hand-wringers and pushed the damn panic button no matter who I had to go through. |
Road_thing
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 30, 2010 - 10:02 pm: |
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Here's BP's update as of Sunday 6/27:
http://bp.concerts.com/gom/kwellsreliefwells062710 .htm
Relief well is getting close. Hopefully the flow will be stopped soon.
rt |
Ourdee
| | Posted on Thursday, July 01, 2010 - 05:47 pm: |
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When the relief well goes bad, may we nuke it? |
Jramsey
| | Posted on Thursday, July 01, 2010 - 06:02 pm: |
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News Flash!!!!
Just heard they stopped the leak!
They slipped a wedding ring on it.
And naturally it quit putting out.
(Message edited by Jramsey on July 01, 2010) |
Hootowl
| | Posted on Thursday, July 01, 2010 - 06:06 pm: |
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That may be the funniest thing I have heard in a year. Thanks for that. |
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