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1125rcya
Posted on Friday, June 11, 2010 - 01:14 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

09 1125R
What can I change or mod on my bike to get a second gear roll on wheelie while sitting besides a chick/dued on the back seat, chain conversion, nitro, turbo and a new bike/engine oh and I want to keep my suspension the same. I dont want to put a big bore kit or anything like that I have the long warnt.
my weight 149 lbs.
I have heard of putting holes in the inner cover to help it breath, but then I am looking into a E-B-R ECM and a slip on pipe, just wondering if that will give me the performance i want? What happens if I do put holes in my inner air box with or without a E-B-R ECM.
Thanks
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Jrfitzny
Posted on Friday, June 11, 2010 - 03:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I have an 08 R and I can do power wheelies in 2nd gear easily...and i'm about 218 lbs.

An easier method is to learn how to clutch it up.
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Mr_grumpy
Posted on Friday, June 11, 2010 - 07:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

This is something I've never "got", a motorcycle is unstable enough with both wheels on the floor why would you want to reduce that even more.
Why would you want to hammer your driveline & suspension & steering components in such a manner.

Your choice obviously I'm not making any judgements on you here.

My advice, go to a "stunt school" day.
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Froggy
Posted on Friday, June 11, 2010 - 07:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Bone stock the bike will do them in 3rd.

I also second going to a stunt school.
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Hammer71
Posted on Friday, June 11, 2010 - 08:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

LOL my XB will roll on wheelie in 2nd. Find the sweet spot in the rpm range then open it up, front will come up very quick.
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Sifo
Posted on Friday, June 11, 2010 - 09:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

When I test rode an 1125CR it would wheelie in 3rd no problem. Granted the gearing is slightly different, but 2nd gear should be a no brainer. On my test ride the front came up in 2nd as it came into the power band all on it's own.
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Jaimec
Posted on Friday, June 11, 2010 - 10:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I guess the issue of doing third gear roll-on wheelies with an 1125 is "the noid..."

That could be embarrassing.
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Froggy
Posted on Friday, June 11, 2010 - 10:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Or you could just roll on a thousand RPM higher and never notice it was there. : )
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Hybridmomentspass
Posted on Friday, June 11, 2010 - 10:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

mr grumpy - at speed a motorcycle is quite stable. Maybe it is your riding that is the issue. Unless youre struck by an object or extreme wind you should be having zero problem with stability at speed on a motorcycle
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Ourdee
Posted on Friday, June 11, 2010 - 02:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Wheelies are insanely dangerous and can put your eye out.

Scoot your hiney back on the seat and sit up.
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Mr_grumpy
Posted on Friday, June 11, 2010 - 02:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Mr Owens.

I ride or drive anything from 2 to 18 wheels & have done so for more years than I care to think about.

I agree with you that at medium speeds motorcycles are far more stable than at low or very high speeds.

I have no problems with stability (except when I've been on the piss) & don't recall saying that I had.

It's precisely because a motorcycle is a less stable platform than a vehicle with more wheels that it is so manoeverable, but it needs both on the ground to achieve this.

The original poster is asking about riding on one wheel, for a vehicle designed & built to use 2, at lower speeds, 2nd isn't really a high speed gear.

If you have doubts about my personal riding ability, there are a number of Badwebbers I've ridden with who can give you their opinions.

I can't say I really give a toss what you think of it anyway.
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Socoken
Posted on Friday, June 11, 2010 - 02:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Froggy,

Stock 1125r third gear roll on wheelies? Roll wheelies on as in, no kip, no clutch, no throttle off/wfo, just the bike pulling the front wheel as the power comes on? On flat ground? Real wheelies, not just "tire skimming the ground" but more as in, "I will have to chop the throttle at some point to keep from looping" wheelies?

Ive tuned mine to have 6-8hp more than stock, and there is no way the bike pulls the front in third on its own, on flat ground. A roll on wheelie is one, like in first gear, where the power of the bike overmatches its balance and resistance to pick up off the ground, regardless of rider talent/skill or influence other than throttle roll on. Mine will power up in second on a cool day when Im making good hp, but If yours does that in third, you must have at least 20hp on me.

I think the OP was using the idea of a second gear power up as a benchmark for more hp, and how he would need to go about getting enough extra to do them.

(Message edited by socoken on June 11, 2010)
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Froggy
Posted on Friday, June 11, 2010 - 03:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Yes bone stock including the solenoid in 3rd gear roll on power wheelie. The CR does them easier, but I honestly don't do them as much as I used too.
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Jrfitzny
Posted on Friday, June 11, 2010 - 03:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

that's why unicycles are so dangerous
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Tpoppa
Posted on Friday, June 11, 2010 - 04:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I don't wheelie on purpose, but I've pulled a few shifting from 3rd to 4th WFO.
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Socoken
Posted on Friday, June 11, 2010 - 04:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

What speed are you going when the front comes up in third, 60-70mph?
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S1wmike
Posted on Friday, June 11, 2010 - 04:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I have whacked the throttle open on a CR with the P&A and brought the front wheel up in 3rd at 60mph and in 4th at 80mph. Not to a balance point but a good 6-10" power wheelie on flat surfaces. There is a noticeable difference in front end feel between the clubman bars and the P&A bars.
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1125rcya
Posted on Saturday, June 12, 2010 - 04:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I guess that ill take my airbox cover off and make sure my slides are opening up all the way. This baffles me, I hear 3rd gear wheelies no clutch and yet I cant get a second gear to come up WOT. Any tips on what else to look for once the airbox cover is off?
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Fresnobuell
Posted on Saturday, June 12, 2010 - 05:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Stock 1125r third gear roll on wheelies?

This is fallacy. Sorry. YOu are either clutching it up or rolling on and thinking your wheel is up. Just cause he forks extend doesn't mean your front tire is in the air.

Wheelies are highly dependent on shock stiffness and riding position. Someone with a overly stiff shock and sitting back in the seat will bring the wheel up MUCH easier than a soft shock and someone who likes to keep weight up front.
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