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     Whatever |
The City of New Orleans does not maintain the levee system or the Atchafalaya... the US Army Corp of Engineers does... it is considered a matter of national security to keep that shipping canal in the big Muddy open... | ||
| Cowboy |
Char you do realize that the entire area of South Louisiana is like a foren country they make thier own set of rules, the corp. may do all the work but the city calls the shots. That is Miss Mary home and X Lt. Gov is her btother It is one hell of a mess. | ||
| Whatever |
Lovely... | ||
| Kenm123t |
Char did you know the NO levee authority bought a biz jet so they could see other levees never did spend any mney on the levee. By the way the Zuider Zee was built by the same american engineer that built NO s levees. The fundingwas pulled when the audito general report the theft of the money | ||
| Whatever |
My last company got one of the contracts to re-build the NO levees... it is some nutty stuff... | ||
| Gregtonn |
... it is considered a matter of national security to keep that shipping canal in the big Muddy open... Uh...the "Big Muddy" would be the colloquial name for the Missouri River not the Mississippi. In case you are geographically challenged it is the Mississippi River that passes through New Orleans not the Missouri. G | ||
| Aesquire |
Only because the rivers were "discovered" east to west. The Missouri is the larger river, and, if not for the name already applied, is the main river. There were lots of statues in NO built with levee money. | ||
| Aeholton |
Interesting update from BP on Monday here: http://bp.concerts.com/gom/kentwellstechupdatelong 053110.htm | ||
| Ourdee |
Should have nuked it early on. Could have closed that thing right up. Instead we have oil everywhere. It is just starting. | ||
| Hex |
On a lighter note, here's more opinion: It's been systematic deregulation and the elevation of free market libertarian laissez-faire capitalism that have wrought this damage and allowed potentially destructive corporations to write their own rules and do as they please. Does anyone seriously believe that BP has suddenly become a philanthropic venture interested in doing whatever it takes -- sparing no expense -- to make the Gulf region whole again? It will do the absolute minimum necessary to weasel its way through this crisis. Not a red cent more. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bob-cesca/how-soon-u ntil-the-free-m_b_598305.html | ||
| Sifo |
Should have nuked it early on. Could have closed that thing right up. Instead we have oil everywhere. It is just starting. They would still be drilling a hole for the nuke. It would no faster than the current plan of drilling the relief wells. I would guess that this always has been Plan A with everything else being stop gap measures. On a lighter note, here's more opinion: Yep, that's an opinion. It ignores all of the government regulations on the oil companies, but it's an opinion. I prefer opinions that are grounded in facts though. This opinion is grounded in pixie dust. | ||
| Xb12xmike |
pixie dust... lmao. That article reminds me of truthers. | ||
| Whatever |
Mississippii piii piiiii... yeeee.... I got to spend all day in a class with cute construction workers... yipee... there is your lighter note... they kind of freaked out when I told them about what I found out about what happened on the rig with bp...  | ||
| Whatever |
Half a million acres were formed by the Mississippi at the delta... wonder how much of it will go away bc the oil... http://www.lacoast.gov/landchange/basins/mr/ | ||
| Gregtonn |
So let's take a logical (Oh no there's that word again!) look at the nuke option. 1. We have an crude oil filled cavity of unknown volume. 2. Said cavity is pressurized, either externally or internally, and is therefore not just seeping oil but spewing oil. At this point the area of the "leak" fairly limited kind of like a pin hole in a propane tank. So instead of using one of many possible mechanical means to close the leak you use a nuclear detonation. What then happens if the strata composing the pressurized containment cavity are fractured? Like using a welding torch to fuse closed that pin hole in the propane tank, it could possibly work under the right conditions. On the other hand... G | ||
| Hex |
Another article against the 'Nuclear Option': Government and private nuclear experts agreed that using a nuclear bomb would be not only risky technically, with unknown and possibly disastrous consequences from radiation, but also unwise geopolitically... http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/03/us/03nuke.html?h p I think they are mostly concerned with political fallout. | ||
| Reindog |
Dude, a nuke would unleash Oilzilla. | ||
| Hex |
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| Cowboy |
At this point I am becoming very anoyed with the photos. on the bottom--the drawing of the well head ---every thing I see of the stack is not detailed --I want to see what is in the hole and at what depth---I want to see OD and ID In the hole with all depths of every thing from 10,000 up. damn if it dont look like some is afraid to open Pandora's Box. | ||
| Hex |
 http://www.bp.com/genericarticle.do?categoryId=9033657&contentId=7062373 No BOP on the second relief well? Are they not planning to hit oil with this one? | ||
| Cowboy |
That is NOT what I am looking for. Almost every drawing is different. I would like to see actual drawing with cut away's and all junk in hole with description.( in detail) | ||
| Hex |
Here's the video, some exciting stuff going on down there. http://www.cnn.com/video/flashLive/live.html?strea m=stream3&hpt=T1 | ||
| Sifo |
Looks like the scares about hurricanes was blown way out of proportion... http://wattsupwiththat.com/2010/05/30/what-happens -if-a-hurricane-hits-the-gulf-oil-slick/ | ||
| Aesquire |
What few mention is that to put the imaginary nuke where you'd want it, ( if you believe the Russians ) you'd have to drill a relief well anyway......and if you did that......you don't need the nuke. The Russians had a very different situation. A gas well fire will erode the land until it's a giant, unstoppable fiery hole. This is a freaking busted pipe, and a messed up valve complex a mile under water. I'd think tapping the flow of fluid that won't burn until it's on the surface is a better solution than busting up the area. Not to preserve the well for profit, but because AFAIK no one has set off that kind of bang at those pressures and depths. My bet is you'd get a mother crater spewing oil worse than ever, and no possible way to stop it, with todays tech. If Obama would only lower the sea..... as promised.  (Political sarcasm. Obviously parting the Gulf would work better.) | ||
| Crackhead |
the idiots are coming to protest | ||
| Hex |
Watch the action live from BP: http://www.bp.com/genericarticle.do?categoryId=9033572&contentId=7062605 This one is from yesterday (cool robots):  This one from this morning (cap in place see 'fins'):  | ||
| Hex |
Supercomputer modeling of oil spread to Atlantic coast and beyond. | ||
| Whatever |
Nice video... but it is slightly f-ed up I think... not like I am a physical oceanographer or anything... but surface and deep water currents go in two different directions in the Atlantic... The US GOV has sent a bill to BP for $69 Million apparently... which equals ONE DAY OF PROFIT for the oil giant... good luck getting the money out of them... bastards...  | ||
| Hex |
A supercomputer simulation conducted by the National Center for Atmospheric Research (NCAR) in conjunction with the Los Alamos National Laboratory indicates that the oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico is likely to move up the East Coast. However, officials stressed the results are a simulation and not a prediction. http://www.zdnet.com/blog/btl/supercomputer-simula tion-gulf-of-mexico-oil-spill-may-move-up-east-coa st/35394 | ||
| Boese |
yeah, that topic makes me sleep worse than normal. I spent the long memorial day weekend in New Orleans btw and could not see any impact on bourbon street - that is for sure  (Message edited by boese on June 04, 2010) |
