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Drkside79
Posted on Friday, May 28, 2010 - 12:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

So my friend dropped my Shoie RF-1000. He was standing holding the helmet at his side and just dropped it. it fell maybe 2and a half feet.

Is it toast? what do you think?
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Augustus74
Posted on Friday, May 28, 2010 - 12:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Technically, its toast!
I may be crazy/dumb but I would still wear it. (so long as you cant see a crack or anything. If the paint is flaking off, i might reconsider.)
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Firebolt32
Posted on Friday, May 28, 2010 - 12:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

What Augustus said. Their not made like football helmets to take repeated abuse. I'd personally wear it until I could get another one.
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Gentleman_jon
Posted on Friday, May 28, 2010 - 01:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Nothing the matter with your helmet for two reasons:

1. It wasn't going very fast when it hit the deck.
2. There was nothing in it, like a human head that would have increased its mass, the effect of the impact and crushed the protective interior foam.

Don't worry about it.

If you examine it closely you won't see any damage unless it landed on the visor.
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46champ
Posted on Friday, May 28, 2010 - 01:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I know I'm going to get flamed but there has to be a difference between a sudden stop with nothing inside the helmet and a head inside the helmet. At least part of the process of using a helmet in an accident is compression of the styrofoam material as it supports the head in an accident, I know it isn't styrofoam but you all know what part I'm talking about. Anyway if you drop an empty helmet from a couple or three feet what is there to compress the foam? I personally would run the helmet, you need to make the decision that you're comfortable with.
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Elsinore74
Posted on Friday, May 28, 2010 - 01:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Make careful note of which quadrant struck the ground first, and just make sure you don't fall in that direction if you crash...
Seriously though, do what you feel comfortable with.

(Message edited by Elsinore74 on May 28, 2010)
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Greg_e
Posted on Friday, May 28, 2010 - 01:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Arai states that this type of drop is fine, check with Shoei to be certain. An Arai person stated this is a video the Jay Leno did (check Youtube) but I didn't find it with a quick google. Pretty sure the Shoei will be the same since the impact layer did not need to absorb any impact.
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Mrvdub
Posted on Friday, May 28, 2010 - 05:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Here is the video that I think Greg_e was referring to.

http://www.araiamericas.com/default.aspx?pageid=16 0
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Friday, May 28, 2010 - 05:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Nothing wrong with it. The foam isn't compressed.

Some hospitals will allow you to x-ray your helmet after a drop to verify that the foam is intact.
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Vortec57
Posted on Saturday, May 29, 2010 - 11:14 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

It's way tough to x-Ray them though. Gotta have a prescription to shoot anything now. New laws suck. I tried shooting mine in class but it's so light density is was hard to see.
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Pwnzor
Posted on Saturday, May 29, 2010 - 01:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Depends on how the helmet is made, really.

What kind of surface was it dropped on? If it was brick or concrete, I'd trash it. Make him pay for it.

Why was someone else handling your helmet anyway? (rhetorical question, no need for an answer)
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Delta_one
Posted on Saturday, May 29, 2010 - 02:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

here is from the Shoei site


quote:

Helmet Replacement
Ultimately, the useful service life of a safety helmet is dependent on the intensity and frequency of its use. Helmet replacement is recommended even if only one of the under-mentioned points applies:

1. The helmet was subjected to an impact.
2. The comfort padding or the retention system has become loose due to heavy use or display signs of deterioration.
3. The synthetic foam padding displays signs of heavy use and the helmet feels too loose. Test: with the retention system fastened, the helmet turns to the side when you gently shake your head.
4. There are indentations in the EPS liner and/or white scratches can be seen on surfaces with black paint.
5. Even if none of these is applied, we, SHOEI, recommend replacement in 5 years after it's first purchased at retail.




why dont you just have him pay shipping to shoei?


quote:

To have your helmet impact inspected for free*, please ship it to:
3002 Dow Ave, Suite 128
Tustin, CA 92780
Attn: Inspections

Be sure to include a letter with a brief description of the issue with the helmet, as well as a daytime phone number and return address. Once we receive the helmet it will take 1-3 business days to complete the inspection. Upon completion the helmet is returned to you with a letter stating the findings of our inspection. Your helmet is returned to you if it passes the inspection or not. There is no charge for the inspection, and the UPS Ground return shipping is free. To see a video on how to pack your helmet for shipping, click here.


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Preybird1
Posted on Saturday, May 29, 2010 - 02:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I would think it would still be ok to wear. My GF slammed her helmet into mine while riding and it is OK, I will still use it.
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Ourdee
Posted on Saturday, May 29, 2010 - 06:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Was she wearing it?
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Aesquire
Posted on Saturday, May 29, 2010 - 06:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Should be fine.
The shell is plenty strong for a no load light impact, and the foam shouldn't be hurt a bit. If it passes visual inspection, you're golden. It's a fraking Shoei for Baal's sake. However...

I remember long ago in a galaxy... well, the late 70's, anyway. I was at K-mart, looking at helmets, and I found this open face plastic confed flag helmet made in China. I'm looking at the crappy workmanship, and the salesmen comes over to make a sale. I ask about the quality, he assures me it's fine, so I drop it right on the top from shoulder height, and it cracks up the middle.

Salesman is freaking out and insists I pay for it. I tell him to call the manager. When he gets there, HE wants me to pay for it. I tell him "I'll be happy to, then I will sue for everything he's got, K-mart has and will insist he's arrested for selling illegal imported helmets without DOT approval". It got real quiet after that. K-mart quit carrying them shortly after.
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