| Author | Message | ||
     Reindog |
Who is going to take the fall for Obama when this blows up? My money is on Rahm. The longer the White House lets this fester, the worse it is going to be for them. Three cheers for Darryl Issa for bird dogging this. | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
No, there will be some fall guy and Obama will claim executive ignorance. This isn't going away, though. The real problem is that the press isn't going to want to give this traction. | ||
| Cityxslicker |
I think we have seen that you can nail the intern on the desk and do obscene things with a cigar and keep the presidency. theres only two ways out of office for this guy, and one of them is two and a half years away. | ||
| Nevrenuf |
my brother inlaw thinks that he will be out of office at 3.5 years. so that either means impeachment, step down on his own or a bullet in the head. | ||
| Rwven |
This is the kind of stuff "O" should be called on. IMO the impeachable offense in this case is the attempt to keep Arlen Specter in office.....  | ||
| Court |
>>>No, there will be some fall guy and Obama will claim executive ignorance. That's kind of the way I see it . . given the material he's got to select from . . it should be EASY to find an idiot to blame. | ||
| Sifo |
The current congress would never impeach BO. Even after the new congress is installed if the Republicans have a slim majority, I'm not sure they would have the will to go through an impeachment. Right now though I'm not even sure that congress will bother to have an "investigation" to white wash it. | ||
| Natexlh1000 |
Sleestack?  | ||
| Rwven |
The Whitehouse is on a sticky wicket concerning Sestak's allegations. Either they can admit they offered him a position, which is quite possibly in violation of the law, or they can call him delusional (sounds better than "liar"). That'll look good 'eh? Yo! Pennsylvania! Joe Sestak is delusional...Vote for Joe Sestak! (Hattip: RedState) | ||
| Hootowl |
"The current congress would never impeach BO." I don't think the current congress (or the next one) has the moral standing to impeach the president. Sure, they have the constitutional authority, but come on, they're all a bunch of crooks (mostly). Remove the plank from your eye before telling your brother to remove the speck from his. It's like having criminals on a jury. | ||
| Doerman |
Nope. BO and his WH compadres are wrapped in more teflon that an XB oil plug. | ||
| Buellkowski |
Here's something I'm confused about: Sestak says his conversation with the White House took place last July. Sestak announced his candidacy for the Senate on August 4. How can the White House be accused of "bribing" Sestak to "drop out" of the race when he wasn't officially "in" the race when a job offer was made? Presumably, Sestak had the choice of one of three political career paths: stay in the House, decide to run for Senate, or accept a White House job. He chose his path. How can a job offer be considered a "bribe" when no official act was solicited? Like I said, I'm confused. Elucidate me.  | ||
| Rwven |
I can understand your confusion. Sestak says he was offered the job not to run, so what's a body to think? The Administration has not been very forthcoming with what happened either. It's plausible that Sestak discussed his intent to run with the Democratic Party bosses prior to announcing it to the public. | ||
| Reepicheep |
As I read the law, it was about offering a job to influence an election. So (like extortion, money laundering, insider trading, etc) it hinges on intents and outcomes more then simply if a thing happened or not. Presumably, if Rahm Emannuel came up to me and said "Bill, I will give you a job if you agree not to run for president", it would still be criminal, even though I have never had the desire or intent to run for president. | ||
| Buellkowski |
I now read that Sestak indicated his intent for that Senate seat as early as May '09, though his candidacy wasn't official until August. The voters of PA deserved an open Dem primary and I'm glad they ultimately got it despite any "promises" made to Arlen Specter. | ||
| Sifo |
Here's something I'm confused about: Sestak says his conversation with the White House took place last July. Sestak announced his candidacy for the Senate on August 4. How can the White House be accused of "bribing" Sestak to "drop out" of the race when he wasn't officially "in" the race when a job offer was made? At that level of politics you don't just wake up in the morning and throw your hat in the ring by filing your papers with the election committee. By then you have a pretty good sized staff, offices, have done lots of polling and are getting your face and name out any way you can. None of that matters though when you are being offered anything of value to not run. The bribe can be offered before or after filing the candidacy papers. It's just as illegal either way. If the Democrats refuse to investigate this and put Sestak under oath there is a real possibility that the Republicans could if they gain control in November. That could have real possibilities of bringing down the BO presidency depending on who is willing to squeal as they are getting shoved under the bus. Of course it's possible that BO will be just as vulnerable with an investigation under the current congress, depending on exactly who made the offer to Sestak. I do think that BO is a bit sharper that Blagojevich when it comes to Chicago style politics, so my guess is he could survive a white wash investigation now. Putting it off raises the stakes dramatically. | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
At some point in time, the establishment may decide to pull the plug on BO. A call has to be made whether to run or cut bait when you run out of fall guys. If the mid-term elections go as badly for the DNC as is predicted, the party may be willing throw BO to the wolves in return for a redo in 2012. At some point in time this becomes less about a 2012 re-election bid and more about damage control. I think we'll know more about the landscape after November. | ||
| Madduck |
I am convinced that Hillary is definitely running in 2012. Watched Carville rip BO a new one on Wednesday and now Bill is involved in this Sestak thing. Gathering the weapons they will need to move against him already. Don't really see anyone else in the Democratic party with the guts to move on BO. Hill and bill surely have that in spades. | ||
| 46champ |
I wonder if the looming mess in Korea will give Hillary enough of an excuse to resign as Sec of State. That happens she's running in 2012. Edit: But it won't happen till after the mid term elections. Hillary will not take the blame for the looming disaster this November. (Message edited by 46champ on May 28, 2010) | ||
| Cyclonedon |
I voted for Hiliary in 2008 and might vote for her again in 2012. If Barack Obama doesn't capture or kill Osama Bin Laden before the election, I will not vote for him. America needs to arrange for that 6'-6" Arab terrorist to meet his maker!!! The sooner, the better!!! | ||
| Court |
Our #1 Neighborhood Organizer has his Presidential tit in a wringer. We are a nation of laws. He survived an unprecedented about of stupidity and poor policy. Crime may haunt him. We'll see. Keep an eye on Rahm. By the way . . . how funny is it . . . that "to lend credibility" you call on the only living American President who has been impeached and who, a number of times, told bold face lies on television and then took us to be fools enough to buy into his "it depends on what the meaning of "is" is" logic. . . they sent Bill Clinton as their go between? This is truly a gang of well educated, otherwise intelligent folks, laboring under the misconception that they are smarter than the American Electorate . . who are doing themselves in from within. Stupidity. America's tolerance for this type of Chicago cronyism seems to be rapidly ebbing. | ||
| Reindog |
We go from "Death of a Saleman" to "Macbeth". Lady Macbeth might be on the prowl again and she has daggers for her boss. | ||
| Reindog |
It is time for Sestak, Bill Clinton, and Rahm Emmanuel to appear before a Congressional committee to get to the truth. Now that Lost, 24, and American Idol are finished, there's nothing good on the tube and I love to watch shows about squirmy toads. There is a chance that Rahm is finished and Obama's circle will get smaller thus limiting the damage he can do to the American People and our nation. (Message edited by reindog on May 29, 2010) | ||
| Blake |
Maybe Dan Rather will come up with a copy of a letter that show's Obama knew about the Sestak deal. | ||
| Pwnzor |
ohhhhhh SNAP!  | ||
| Madduck |
Imagine being Rahm or Obama and having to trust Bill Clintons memory of exactly what was said and by who. Arkansas Governor, Rhodes Scholar versus Last Black President who edited Harvard law review. What motivates William Jefferson Clinton. Does he want his wife to be the first female president?? Does he wish to save the Presidency of the man that stole her shot at the presidency?? Just how loyal a Democrat is he?? The way I see it ex-President Clinton seems to have a hell of a lot of face cards in this game of chance. | ||
| Reindog |
The Obama Crime Syndicate is slowly being exposed for what it is. It is way past time for an independent investigation into these criminal matters. The White House interferes with Colorado election. | ||
| Court |
Keep an eye on Rahm |
