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Rocketsprink
Posted on Friday, May 21, 2010 - 08:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

www.roadracingworld.com/news/article/?article=4053 8
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Brumbear
Posted on Friday, May 21, 2010 - 08:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

well they are off the list too
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Stalker
Posted on Friday, May 21, 2010 - 09:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Dosent look like anyone wants to manufacture anything in Wisco anymore.
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Bikertrash05
Posted on Friday, May 21, 2010 - 09:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

It makes perfect sense, I am surprised they didn't do it sooner. WI taxes businesses way too much. The most recent one cost Harley millions, I would think it also cost Polaris a lot as well.
You see, if you have multiple plants, and one is in WI, WI taxes you for all of them.
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Rocketsprink
Posted on Friday, May 21, 2010 - 10:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I, for one, think businesses should pay their fair share of taxes. Not over taxed, but fair, Never heard of the tax a company for ALL their facilities that aren't in WI. I find that hard to believe. How long has that been going on? It's called cheap labor, which usually equals cheap (quality) products.
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Nevrenuf
Posted on Friday, May 21, 2010 - 11:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

maybe he's golfing buddies with wandell??
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Bads1
Posted on Friday, May 21, 2010 - 11:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Rocco thank Doyle for the taxing. HD pays for all its plants here. Then again where they are located in that State. Bunch of crap
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Bikertrash05
Posted on Friday, May 21, 2010 - 11:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Info on the tax: http://www.biztimes.com/news/2010/5/14/the-hog-tax
Yes, it is hard to believe, but that is the way the left runs.

(Message edited by BikerTrash05 on May 21, 2010)
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Swampy
Posted on Saturday, May 22, 2010 - 12:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Maybe they are trying to get as far away from H-D(spit) as possible?

You ought to see some of the bikes they have out now....inverted forks....
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Strokizator
Posted on Saturday, May 22, 2010 - 12:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I, for one, think businesses should pay their fare share of taxes.

I guess that all depends on who is in charge of deciding what is fair. If a company feels it is too costly (unfair) to do business in one state it will simply move to another, more business friendly state, or out of the country all together. Then what are the workers of Wisconsin (or California) going to do?
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Rocketsprink
Posted on Saturday, May 22, 2010 - 02:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

fair is not millions of dollars in tax breaks. Maybe that's part of the reason States are in financial trouble now, more so that "too high of wages and pensions for workers"
Pleasant Prairie in Wisconsin gave huge tax incentives to companies to build in their town. 10 years of super low taxes. After that, the companies simple go elsewhere. Lot's of empty warehouses and office space now. That worked out well.
When does quality of a product mean more than shipping work to other countries.
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Rocketsprink
Posted on Saturday, May 22, 2010 - 02:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Looks to me like almost half the states have that law.
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Cyclonedon
Posted on Saturday, May 22, 2010 - 02:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Rocco, you should see the huge Motorola building located just north of Harvard Illinois on Highway 14 that the state of Illinois gave huge tax breaks to Motorola to help keep them in the state. It failed because motorola is now made overseas and the building is vacant with the state picking up the tab on that screw-up.

once again we have corporate America and their greed to thank for our manufacturing jobs being shipped overseas these days.
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Court
Posted on Saturday, May 22, 2010 - 06:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

>>>> more so that "too high of wages and pensions for workers"

Perhaps.

I don't even argue it anymore but then I am living in a town where you can make $160,000/yr as a librarian and after 20 years you can retire with 90% of your wages.

We've turned into an amazing sissy state.

Fair is fair . . . I'm cool with that but some of the current arrangements are bizarre.

Again . . I've gone into the "cover my own ass" sort of thinking . . I think . . just take a look at CA and the UAW . . . these other things will sort themselves out when pension checks, based on huge unfunded liabilities, begin bouncing.

It's not right for corporations.

It's not right for labor.

Greed has screwed both out of what they once stood for.
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Court
Posted on Saturday, May 22, 2010 - 06:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

HD will be entirely out of WI in 36 months.
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Kc10_fe
Posted on Saturday, May 22, 2010 - 07:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Good ol NAFTA. More Unemployed Americans to cost the company less in Mexico. I wonder when Walmart will start selling Polaris.
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Brumbear
Posted on Saturday, May 22, 2010 - 07:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

and possibly bibteen tousand miles avay
I just am in that I don';t want anything from China or Mexico mode.
I don't care what state you move the buisness just keep Americans working move it to Mexico let the Mexicans buy em.
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Paw
Posted on Saturday, May 22, 2010 - 01:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

"Good ol NAFTA"...Correct me if I am wrong, Didn't a democratic president work on NAFTA and republican president have the chance to veto but did not?

Goes to show you I think it is time to vote independent...candidants for working American's.

We need to stop voting for politicians for corperate America.

(Message edited by paw on May 22, 2010)
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Augustus74
Posted on Saturday, May 22, 2010 - 01:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

At first I thought, Wisconsin to Iowa, not that big of a deal, then I saw the part about Mexico!
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Two_buells
Posted on Saturday, May 22, 2010 - 02:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

HD will be entirely out of WI in 36 months.


yea and HD will follow Polaris/Victory to Mexico. Wiring harnesses are already there, that was 100 good jobs that left York.

Can-am ATV's are made in Mexico.
The Can-am ATV model that I own was one of the last models built in Canada...
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Johnnymceldoo
Posted on Saturday, May 22, 2010 - 08:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Rocket, maybe you and some 'good ole boys' from seiu can go to the ceo's home and yell at them with bullhorns. Make sure you get alot of blacks to go with you though. Maybe theres a race card to be played? We already know they are greedy but racist and greedy would cause a stir.

Bus all the poor backs in you can. The poorer the better.
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Bikertrash05
Posted on Saturday, May 22, 2010 - 09:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

And don't forget to have a police escort from a neighboring county.
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Luftkoph
Posted on Saturday, May 22, 2010 - 10:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I don't think we can totally blame the evil corporate america for building overseas or over rio grande.Look in the mirror American's we are a lot of the problem we love to buy the cheapest crap we can and quality has to compete with crap.
Compared to a country like japan we have no national pride when we have to put our wallet were are mouth is.
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Nevrenuf
Posted on Sunday, May 23, 2010 - 09:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

everyone on here just about has or had a buell at one time and see where that got us.
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Buelldawg
Posted on Sunday, May 23, 2010 - 01:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Timing is everything! I just picked up a Cross Country two weeks ago. This sucks big time.
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Paw
Posted on Sunday, May 23, 2010 - 08:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Quote>>>"too high of wages and pensions for workers"

Court may not argue it but I will.

IMO, if a family can make it on only one income. Then and only then are the wages and benefits to high!!!

This is corporate and share holders greed. Not that the polaris workers make to much...100% greed on both sides. More so corporate greed because I'm sure most Polaris employees own stock and they would never do any thing to cause their job to move south. The company set the wages gave the raises and benefits and when their leadership skills fail to make a nice profit the greedy money sucking whores cut the life line of the little guy.

(Message edited by paw on May 23, 2010)
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