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     Chomos |
I just wanted to say thanks to Jerry for the parlor guitar. He was right in his description--it is a beauty. It arrived well packaged and was free of any defects. It came out of the boxes in tune even. Thanks again Jerry and I hope the auction raised much money for a great cause. | ||
| Court |
>>>>It came out of the boxes in tune even. He shipped a guitar with the strings at tension???? Shame on him . . .  | ||
| Jerry_haughton |
Chris, thx for the update, and for your generous bid. I will be forwarding all of the collected money to Mrs. Dalton very soon, and will post an update when I do. I hope you enjoy your new Larrivee for many years to come.
Court: Do NOT take tension off the strings when shipping your guitar. This is a dangerous practice as the machine heads and headstock are the heaviest parts of the guitar, and the string tension from proper tuning serves to counteract the stresses these parts place on the instrument. Some people on the internet will tell you that loosening the strings is a good idea - If it was such a good idea, then every manufacturer would do it. Martin, Taylor, Gibson, Larrivee, Collings, etc all ship our guitars new from the factory at full tension - What makes your guitar any different? Source: Larrivee.com http://www.larrivee.com/features/shipping.php Shame on me, indeed. FB | ||
| Jb2 |
I never knew. I'd wager there's more information being spread on this board than in all the pages of Wikipedia & Google combined. | ||
| Jerry_haughton |
JB2: I found it interesting that the fellow at the shipping outfit down in Mt. Airy suggested backing off the strings. I told him that Larrivee recommended shipping guitars at tension, and to his credit he didn't put up any fuss. I paid considerably extra to have him custom double-box the guitar before calling FedEx for pick-up, and apparently he did a good job. I should also note that the electronic tuner I use on my gits was a gift from Court several years ago when I purchased my Garrison G-25 thru BadWeB. It continues to serve me well. I appreciated Court's thoughtful kindness back then, and still do to this day. FB1 | ||
| Jerry_haughton |
PS to anyone feeling particularly benevolent today: I'll be presenting Mrs. Dalton with the collected donations sometime this weekend, or perhaps on Monday. As you'll recall from the other thread, she lost her husband in a farming accident not long ago, and is struggling to keep and maintain her farm. I know y'll don't know her (neither do I), but if you've got a few extra bucks to spare I'm sure it'd mean the world to her, not only the money, but the random act of kindness. As of this moment I have $750 to present to Mrs. Dalton (many thx to my brother Alex Prior for the latest donation). If you'd like to help, my PayPal addy is: *******garrisonlmartin**************at************ gmail**************dotcom******* Get rid of the all the *'s and fix the @ and .com things, combine it all together in the address field, and you're good to go. 100% of all donations will be forwarded to Mrs. Dalton. Many thanks, FB | ||
| Drkside79 |
Court I'm with Jerry on this one. You never want the tension off the neck. Thats why you change strings one at a time (unless you are cleaning the fretboard). Either way no tension for a long period of time can warp the neck. | ||
| Jerry_haughton |
This story starts here: Larrivee Parlor Guitar For Charity, 05-14-2010 Yesterday, Charlieboy and I paid a visit to Donna Peery, the lady who organized the recent fundraiser at the Hillsville, Virginia VFW for Cindy Dalton, the widow of local farmer Kenneth Dalton, who died in an accident on his farm in late March. I'm pleased to report that the benefit and auction at the VFW raised $11,178.00, the second highest total in their history. 100% of this money went to Mrs. Dalton. I'm also pleased to report that Charlieboy and I presented to Donna yesterday a money order in the amount of $825.00, payable to Mrs. Dalton. I don't know Mrs. Dalton, and I asked Donna to maintain my anonymity. Charlieboy, consummate gentleman that he is, made a cash donation for Mrs. Dalton during our visit, and Donna said she also had several more late donations coming in from the VFW to forward to Mrs. Dalton. It's very gratifying have been a small part of such a large community outpouring of love and support. I hope from this Mrs. Dalton can find some measure of peace in the midst of her sorrow. Many thanks to Chris Chambers for his generous bid on my Larrivee guitar, and to Denise "Denisea" Murphy, Brad "Bluzm2" Johnson, Alex Prior and Heather Lapham, Anthony "Spiderman" Barchock, our neighbors Donald & Ruth Rice, and Charles "Charlieboy6649" Dine for your generous cash contributions to Mrs. Dalton. You folks are the best! FB         (Message edited by jerry_haughton on May 28, 2010) | ||
| Bluzm2 |
Very cool Jerry, thanks much for the update. | ||
| Hughlysses |
FB- what a cool thing to do. On the "how to ship the guitar" controversy- I have have also been told you should always de-tension an instrument before shipment. A friend of mine who regularly trades vintage acoustics told me he had seen more than one head stock that had been snapped off during shipment in a completely intact and well-padded hard case. IIRC a luthier had told him that what happens is with the strings under tension, if the guitar is dropped on its back, the head stock flexes backwards and then the strings, acting like a spring under tension, snap it forward, breaking it right at the nut. I'm sure that's someone's theory and unless they've put recording instrumentation in a case and tried it, it's nothing but a theory. Hey- maybe a new experiment for the next season of Mythbusters? Larviee is apparently saying that with no tension, exactly the opposite can happen. If the guitar is dropped is on its back, the weight of the tuners can snap the headstock off downwards. I think I'd have to go with what you did- if the manufacturer says to ship it under tension, ship it under tension. | ||
| F_skinner |
Great thread, thanks... FS | ||
| Jerry_haughton |
Thank you x three, gents. Hughlysses, I followed Larrivee's suggestions regarding "padding" the headstock area, except I used small-bubble bubble wrap, carefully "nesting" not only the headstock, but also the entire neck and body, inside the gig bag. I tried to do this all in such a way that the git couldn't move inside the bag, but also such that nothing was jammed in too tight. If Chris Chambers is watching this thread, he can attest to how well the guitar was nested inside the gig bag. I also paid extra, on my own nickel, to have everything custom-double-boxed. It was important to me for obvious reasons that the guitar get to Chris in excellent condition, and he has confirmed that it did. Thx again, fellas. It was cool to have Charlieboy as our overnight guest here at the RidgeDome during his ride down to Florida (see his current thread in the Tale Section), and I'm honored that he took the time to be a part of this deal. FB&D | ||
| Charlieboy6649 |
Do gooders of the world unite! It always feels good to help people in whatever small way we can. I loved the pay it fwd concept from the movie & I attempt to live my life in that fashion. I think if we all stick together we may just make it through this life... | ||
| Court |
Different folks follow different procedures . . .not unlike with motor oils. My curiosity was picqued, since both my Martin and Gibson Customs have arrived with strings loose and it describes how to back them off on the Martin website. I wrote Martin and to Todd at Gibson Custom Shop just for my own comfort. They simply have different opinions than Larivee . . . no biggie. To be honest . . given the glue and construction on the new instruments Different strokes for different folks . . . I . . since I bought my first Gibson in 1965 . . seem to always end up, having added others . . . back at Gibson and, mostly because of their great customer service (who else can you call or e-mail and be guaranteed a response in hours) . . kinda stick with them. My next one will be on the way soon. If something else floats your boat . . . by all means go with it . . I'm not sure there is any "wrong".
Looking back . . a nice drug habit would have been cheaper. | ||
| Drkside79 |
Court its not to late a little chronic goes a long way | ||
| Court |
Hahaha . . I had my chance . . .they sent me home with 50 high power Oxycodene hits last week . . . I haven't touched them and am debating if it would be bees to flush'em . . or put them on e-Bay. They're sitting next to the bottle of Vicodin Henrik left here. | ||
| Johnnylunchbox |
Guitar Acquisition Syndrome is a terrible disease I tell you.   | ||
| Spiderman |
This is my fav geeetar...  |
