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Xb12xmike
| Posted on Wednesday, May 19, 2010 - 01:39 pm: |
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It is the "Gulf of MEXICO"..., not the "Gulf of America". Just wait till the Mexicans realize their Gulf is ruined!!! Oh boy....![](http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/clipart/bugout.gif) |
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Hex
| Posted on Wednesday, May 19, 2010 - 02:00 pm: |
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will you buy a tired old man a beer Better yet, I'll make you one. My IIPAs are as good as any I have ever purchased. |
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Sifo
| Posted on Wednesday, May 19, 2010 - 04:35 pm: |
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Hex, that old '70 PSA with the "Indian" wasn't even an Indian. Kind of fitting given what you have presented in this thread. He was an Italian actor called “Iron Eyes Cody”. Why can't the greens even do propaganda honestly? |
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Sifo
| Posted on Wednesday, May 19, 2010 - 04:37 pm: |
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Just wait till the Mexicans realize their Gulf is ruined!!! Have you seen what they have done to their own land away from the tourist hot spots? |
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B00stzx3
| Posted on Wednesday, May 19, 2010 - 04:38 pm: |
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I just worry about all those jobs...those fishermen rely on this jank. WTF are they gonna do... |
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Cowboy
| Posted on Wednesday, May 19, 2010 - 05:02 pm: |
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If the oil field shuts down the State will go bankrup. The fisher men have never paid any taxes they work for cash under the table. |
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Hex
| Posted on Wednesday, May 19, 2010 - 05:14 pm: |
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But Cowboy, how can you be sure of that? The same case could be made about big oil and the MMS. |
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Cowboy
| Posted on Wednesday, May 19, 2010 - 06:29 pm: |
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When I had my sea food company there I paid cash every day how many do you think sent thier taxes to the state.(Fisherman) finaly the state told me to start holding thier taxes (every damn one quit) |
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Cowboy
| Posted on Wednesday, May 19, 2010 - 06:38 pm: |
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Tases paid by oil company is public record.It is published every yr. |
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Sifo
| Posted on Wednesday, May 19, 2010 - 06:48 pm: |
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At least Hex is right about the MMS not paying taxes. Taxes pay for the MMS! Somehow I'm not sure that's what Hex had in mind though. ![](http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/clipart/dunno.gif) |
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Sifo
| Posted on Wednesday, May 19, 2010 - 06:51 pm: |
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When Exxon/Mobil was getting hammered by congress not that long ago for their "record setting profits" they were also paying record setting federal taxes. Few people paid attention to that part of the equation though. |
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Blake
| Posted on Wednesday, May 19, 2010 - 10:33 pm: |
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Some would much rather see record setting losses, so they could nationalize the oil industry. Profit is good. Everyone is welcome to share in oil industry profits. I sure do. You too may own a share of Exxon-Mobil, Conoco-Phillips, Chevron, Texaco, Shell, or even BP. |
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Crackhead
| Posted on Thursday, May 20, 2010 - 08:30 am: |
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"It occurs to me that innovative, creative Americans are very well qualified to find a solution. I don't know what it is but am convinced we have the firepower if the government stays away from "helping"." Court American creativity also caused the mess. |
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Blake
| Posted on Thursday, May 20, 2010 - 11:25 am: |
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>>> "American creativity also caused the mess." Way to blame-America-first. I suppose you could make the same miserable America-hating/blaming pronouncement for most every human caused accident. What the #%$! is wrong with you? Exploiting a catastrophic accident to badmouth your own country? Why? Do you really despise America that much? If so, why stay here? I am SO fed up with people badmouthing America. Ignorant Fools! Go live in communist China for a year then come back and tell us all how America, the most powerful force for freedom in the world, is such a problem. |
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Hex
| Posted on Thursday, May 20, 2010 - 12:09 pm: |
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May 20, 2010 -- Rep. Edward J. Markey (D-Mass.) today commended the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency for ordering BP to use less toxic dispersant chemicals in the company’s cleanup efforts in the Gulf of Mexico.... http://www.globalwarming.house.gov/mediacenter/pre ssreleases_2008?id=0246#main_content May 19, 2010 – Following a demand from Rep. Edward J. Markey (D-Mass.) for a live feed of the BP oil spill to be made publicly available on the web, BP said they would release the feed and it will be shown on Rep. Markey’s committee website at www.globalwarming.house.gov. The release of the live link to Rep. Markey is expected tonight. “This may be BP’s footage, but it’s America’s ocean. http://www.globalwarming.house.gov/mediacenter/pre ssreleases_2008?id=0245#main_content . . . . . Brace yourselves for the reality of this man made catastrophe. BP claims it is now collecting 5000 barrels from a 21" diameter pipe with a 4" diameter pipe. Maybe the engineers on this board can tell me how that is possible assuming both pipes are flowing at near maximum capacity? http://www.businessweek.com/news/2010-05-20/bp-cap turing-5-000-barrels-a-day-from-gulf-oil-leak-upda te1-.html
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Hex
| Posted on Thursday, May 20, 2010 - 12:17 pm: |
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I'm also interested in learning why so much natural gas is coming out of the well? I wonder if the well casing is compromised near a natural gas pocket. |
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Xb12xmike
| Posted on Thursday, May 20, 2010 - 12:26 pm: |
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They must be smoking weed huh? |
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Hex
| Posted on Thursday, May 20, 2010 - 12:44 pm: |
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You're just jealous it's not legal in your state.![](http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/clipart/fancy.gif) |
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Hex
| Posted on Thursday, May 20, 2010 - 12:47 pm: |
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Scratch that, MM is legal in NJ, but not for all. Come November, Cali will be all good. |
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Xb12xmike
| Posted on Thursday, May 20, 2010 - 12:54 pm: |
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Come November, Cali will be all good. dude...now thats hilarious!! um, yea, hehe, uh huh,,,hehe. It has vitamins too! I predict millions of cotton mouths... and then Civil war over water. |
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Xb12xmike
| Posted on Thursday, May 20, 2010 - 12:56 pm: |
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.........and twinkies. ![](http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/clipart/dielaughing.gif) |
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Xb12xmike
| Posted on Thursday, May 20, 2010 - 01:46 pm: |
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Opps!! Sorry!! I meant to say Krispy Kremes........ ![](http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/clipart/bugout.gif) |
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Blake
| Posted on Thursday, May 20, 2010 - 01:47 pm: |
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>>> "assuming both pipes are flowing at near maximum capacity?" Really bad assumption concerning the 21" ID riser. The casing down hole is likely not much if any larger than 4" inside diameter. The entire flow (oil, water, gas) must pass through that in order to make it to the riser. Plus there are remnants of cement plugs and who know what, and as Cowboy notes, the formation hadn't yet been perforated (shaped explosion to penetrate formation and open up flow of gas and oil for prolonged production). >>> "why so much natural gas is coming out of the well?" Gas is always present in a new oil well as far as I know. Without gas there'd be no blowout, and the oil would need pumped out just like a water well. However, there's not necessarily oil available in a gas well. For every barrel of oil in American reserves, we have from 8 to 10 thousand cubic feed of natural gas. (Message edited by blake on May 20, 2010) |
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Hex
| Posted on Thursday, May 20, 2010 - 01:51 pm: |
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Thanx |
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Blake
| Posted on Thursday, May 20, 2010 - 01:54 pm: |
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Compare the volume change as gas rises 18,000" from bottom of well to see floor, and then another 5,000' to sea level. Hint: The change in pressure is on the order of 10,000 PSI or more. A bubble of gas the size of your fist at 10,000 PSI turns into how many cubic feet at atmospheric pressure (15 PSI)? I'm not sure, but I'd not be surprised if a lot of gas isn't dissolved within the oil and water coming up. It would be released just like CO2 is released when you open a beer or bottle of champagne. It just doesn't taste as good. |
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Cowboy
| Posted on Thursday, May 20, 2010 - 01:55 pm: |
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Hex this formation has not been fractured or perferated + it is producing through a honey comb cement job this is all the zone is able to produce in this condition. it dont make any difference if it were a 40 inch conductor. as this is a high pressure zone the gas is migrating in In this zone I do not know the true depth or bottom hole presure but as you must know the expandion is at least 10,000 to one . I just cant see where any one is trying to pull any wool over anybodys eyes. I am not trying to be a horses ass but you could serve your self and our country better if you stick to the facts and not your untrained openions. |
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Blake
| Posted on Thursday, May 20, 2010 - 01:56 pm: |
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The above is why I think the engineering professor at Perdue is way off base in his inflated alarmist estimation of the flow of oil. I doubt that he accounted for the volume of gas and water included in the flow. |
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Blake
| Posted on Thursday, May 20, 2010 - 02:02 pm: |
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form a press release by BP...
Update on Gulf of Mexico Oil Spill Response - 20 May Release date: 20 May 2010 BP today provided an update on developments in the response to the MC252 oil well incident in the Gulf of Mexico. Subsea Source Control and Containment Subsea efforts continue to focus on progressing options to stop the flow of oil from the well through interventions via the blow out preventer (BOP), and to collect the flow of oil from the leak points. These efforts are being carried out in conjunction with governmental authorities and other industry experts. The volume of oil and gas being collected by the riser insertion tube tool (RITT) containment system at the end of the leaking riser is estimated to be about 3,000 barrels a day (b/d) of oil and some 14 million standard cubic feet a day of gas. The oil is being stored and gas is being flared on the drillship Discoverer Enterprise, on the surface 5,000 feet above. This remains a new technology and both its continued operation and its effectiveness in capturing the oil and gas remain uncertain. BP also continues to develop options to shut off the flow of oil from the well through interventions via the failed BOP. Plans continue to develop a so called "top kill" operation where heavy drilling fluids are injected into the well to stem the flow of oil and gas, followed by cement to seal the well. Most of the equipment is on site and preparations continue for this operation, with a view to deployment in the next few days. Options have also been developed to potentially combine this with the injection under pressure of a variety of materials into the BOP to seal off upward flow. Work on the first relief well, which began on May 2, continues. The DDII drilling rig began drilling the second relief well on May 16. Each of these wells is estimated to take some three months to complete from the commencement of drilling. Surface Spill Response and Containment Work continues to collect and disperse oil that has reached the surface of the sea. Over 930 vessels are involved in the response effort, including skimmers, tugs, barges and recovery vessels. Intensive operations to skim oil from the surface of the water have now recovered, in total, some 187,000 barrels (7.8 million gallons) of oily liquid. The total length of boom deployed as part of efforts to prevent oil reaching the coast is now more than 1.9 million feet, including over 500,000 feet of sorbent boom. In total over 19,000 personnel from BP, other companies and government agencies are currently involved in the response to this incident. So far about 19,000 claims have been filed, and some 8,000 payments have been made. |
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Hex
| Posted on Thursday, May 20, 2010 - 02:07 pm: |
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I just cant see where any one is trying to pull any wool over anybodys eyes. More like a censorship hood? A CBS news crew attempted to film a beach in South Pass, Louisiana, obscured by a thick coat of oil, and was barred from doing so by BP contractors and two coast guard officers aboard a boat who threatened to arrest the film crew. When asked why filming along the beach was not permitted they were told, "This is BP's rules, it's not ours." http://www.huffingtonpost.com/edward-f-blizzard/bp -attempts-to-block-medi_b_583355.html |
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Reindog
| Posted on Thursday, May 20, 2010 - 02:16 pm: |
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Were they on private property? Once again, I suspect you are not telling the whole story or that you are not in possession of germane information. You are hereby summoned to the "Lost" thread as soon as your bong is loaded and raring to go. |
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