| Author | Message | ||
     Xb12xmike |
It is the "Gulf of MEXICO"..., not the "Gulf of America". Just wait till the Mexicans realize their Gulf is ruined!!! Oh boy....  | ||
| Hex |
will you buy a tired old man a beer Better yet, I'll make you one. My IIPAs are as good as any I have ever purchased. | ||
| Sifo |
Hex, that old '70 PSA with the "Indian" wasn't even an Indian. Kind of fitting given what you have presented in this thread. He was an Italian actor called “Iron Eyes Cody”. Why can't the greens even do propaganda honestly? | ||
| Sifo |
Just wait till the Mexicans realize their Gulf is ruined!!! Have you seen what they have done to their own land away from the tourist hot spots? | ||
| B00stzx3 |
I just worry about all those jobs...those fishermen rely on this jank. WTF are they gonna do... | ||
| Cowboy |
If the oil field shuts down the State will go bankrup. The fisher men have never paid any taxes they work for cash under the table. | ||
| Hex |
But Cowboy, how can you be sure of that? The same case could be made about big oil and the MMS. | ||
| Cowboy |
When I had my sea food company there I paid cash every day how many do you think sent thier taxes to the state.(Fisherman) finaly the state told me to start holding thier taxes (every damn one quit) | ||
| Cowboy |
Tases paid by oil company is public record.It is published every yr. | ||
| Sifo |
At least Hex is right about the MMS not paying taxes. Taxes pay for the MMS! Somehow I'm not sure that's what Hex had in mind though.  | ||
| Sifo |
When Exxon/Mobil was getting hammered by congress not that long ago for their "record setting profits" they were also paying record setting federal taxes. Few people paid attention to that part of the equation though. | ||
| Blake |
Some would much rather see record setting losses, so they could nationalize the oil industry. Profit is good. Everyone is welcome to share in oil industry profits. I sure do. You too may own a share of Exxon-Mobil, Conoco-Phillips, Chevron, Texaco, Shell, or even BP. | ||
| Crackhead |
"It occurs to me that innovative, creative Americans are very well qualified to find a solution. I don't know what it is but am convinced we have the firepower if the government stays away from "helping"." Court American creativity also caused the mess. | ||
| Blake |
>>> "American creativity also caused the mess." Way to blame-America-first. I suppose you could make the same miserable America-hating/blaming pronouncement for most every human caused accident. What the #%$! is wrong with you? Exploiting a catastrophic accident to badmouth your own country? Why? Do you really despise America that much? If so, why stay here? I am SO fed up with people badmouthing America. Ignorant Fools! Go live in communist China for a year then come back and tell us all how America, the most powerful force for freedom in the world, is such a problem. | ||
| Hex |
May 20, 2010 -- Rep. Edward J. Markey (D-Mass.) today commended the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency for ordering BP to use less toxic dispersant chemicals in the company’s cleanup efforts in the Gulf of Mexico.... http://www.globalwarming.house.gov/mediacenter/pre ssreleases_2008?id=0246#main_content May 19, 2010 – Following a demand from Rep. Edward J. Markey (D-Mass.) for a live feed of the BP oil spill to be made publicly available on the web, BP said they would release the feed and it will be shown on Rep. Markey’s committee website at www.globalwarming.house.gov. The release of the live link to Rep. Markey is expected tonight. “This may be BP’s footage, but it’s America’s ocean. http://www.globalwarming.house.gov/mediacenter/pre ssreleases_2008?id=0245#main_content . . . . . Brace yourselves for the reality of this man made catastrophe. BP claims it is now collecting 5000 barrels from a 21" diameter pipe with a 4" diameter pipe. Maybe the engineers on this board can tell me how that is possible assuming both pipes are flowing at near maximum capacity? http://www.businessweek.com/news/2010-05-20/bp-cap turing-5-000-barrels-a-day-from-gulf-oil-leak-upda te1-.html | ||
| Hex |
I'm also interested in learning why so much natural gas is coming out of the well? I wonder if the well casing is compromised near a natural gas pocket. | ||
| Xb12xmike |
They must be smoking weed huh? | ||
| Hex |
You're just jealous it's not legal in your state.  | ||
| Hex |
Scratch that, MM is legal in NJ, but not for all. Come November, Cali will be all good. | ||
| Xb12xmike |
Come November, Cali will be all good. dude...now thats hilarious!! um, yea, hehe, uh huh,,,hehe. It has vitamins too! I predict millions of cotton mouths... and then Civil war over water. | ||
| Xb12xmike |
.........and twinkies.  | ||
| Xb12xmike |
Opps!! Sorry!! I meant to say Krispy Kremes........ | ||
| Blake |
>>> "assuming both pipes are flowing at near maximum capacity?" Really bad assumption concerning the 21" ID riser. The casing down hole is likely not much if any larger than 4" inside diameter. The entire flow (oil, water, gas) must pass through that in order to make it to the riser. Plus there are remnants of cement plugs and who know what, and as Cowboy notes, the formation hadn't yet been perforated (shaped explosion to penetrate formation and open up flow of gas and oil for prolonged production). >>> "why so much natural gas is coming out of the well?" Gas is always present in a new oil well as far as I know. Without gas there'd be no blowout, and the oil would need pumped out just like a water well. However, there's not necessarily oil available in a gas well. For every barrel of oil in American reserves, we have from 8 to 10 thousand cubic feed of natural gas. (Message edited by blake on May 20, 2010) | ||
| Hex |
Thanx | ||
| Blake |
Compare the volume change as gas rises 18,000" from bottom of well to see floor, and then another 5,000' to sea level. Hint: The change in pressure is on the order of 10,000 PSI or more. A bubble of gas the size of your fist at 10,000 PSI turns into how many cubic feet at atmospheric pressure (15 PSI)? I'm not sure, but I'd not be surprised if a lot of gas isn't dissolved within the oil and water coming up. It would be released just like CO2 is released when you open a beer or bottle of champagne. It just doesn't taste as good. | ||
| Cowboy |
Hex this formation has not been fractured or perferated + it is producing through a honey comb cement job this is all the zone is able to produce in this condition. it dont make any difference if it were a 40 inch conductor. as this is a high pressure zone the gas is migrating in In this zone I do not know the true depth or bottom hole presure but as you must know the expandion is at least 10,000 to one . I just cant see where any one is trying to pull any wool over anybodys eyes. I am not trying to be a horses ass but you could serve your self and our country better if you stick to the facts and not your untrained openions. | ||
| Blake |
The above is why I think the engineering professor at Perdue is way off base in his inflated alarmist estimation of the flow of oil. I doubt that he accounted for the volume of gas and water included in the flow. | ||
| Blake |
form a press release by BP...
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| Hex |
I just cant see where any one is trying to pull any wool over anybodys eyes. More like a censorship hood? A CBS news crew attempted to film a beach in South Pass, Louisiana, obscured by a thick coat of oil, and was barred from doing so by BP contractors and two coast guard officers aboard a boat who threatened to arrest the film crew. When asked why filming along the beach was not permitted they were told, "This is BP's rules, it's not ours." http://www.huffingtonpost.com/edward-f-blizzard/bp -attempts-to-block-medi_b_583355.html | ||
| Reindog |
Were they on private property? Once again, I suspect you are not telling the whole story or that you are not in possession of germane information. You are hereby summoned to the "Lost" thread as soon as your bong is loaded and raring to go. |
