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Hootowl
Posted on Friday, May 14, 2010 - 04:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

If it is 70K, they must have really hit the jackpot.
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Blake
Posted on Friday, May 14, 2010 - 04:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I remember it well. Got a photo I could post on the office PC.
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Sifo
Posted on Friday, May 14, 2010 - 05:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Could an insider answer a question about the BOP?

Earlier I read where they might just install another BOP on top of the failed one. I'm sure there's more to it than an outsider like myself could imagine, but they are set up for installing BOPs, right.

So what stops them from doing this, or removing the failed one and installing a new one? I'm sure there's a good reason they aren't doing this, I just haven't heard the reason why.
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Cowboy
Posted on Friday, May 14, 2010 - 06:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Sifo-- that is kinda like how long is a string---do knot know the condition of well head or how much debrie is on bottom--in some cases it is simple or it can be damn near impossible. sorry I am not much help here. dont know if the anular casing is holding or not. still to many unknowns.
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Sifo
Posted on Friday, May 14, 2010 - 06:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Thanks Cowboy, I'm not surprised by your answer. I'm guessing that they found it wasn't a simple matter in this case or I'm sure they would be doing it.
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Aesquire
Posted on Friday, May 14, 2010 - 06:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

So why are we, the President, Congress, and the American people allowing the criminals to be in charge?

I think your question is worded a bit wrong.

Since the President got the most bribe money from B.P., and Congress got most of the rest of it, ( not counting mordida in foreign countries ) I think you can shorten that question and have it make far more truthful sense.

How about? "So why are we, the American people allowing the criminals to be in charge?"

That I can answer. The criminals lied to us, enough people bought the lies that they were elected, and we can't get rid of them until the next election, because when the congress is the same party as the criminals, impeachment is highly unlikely.

I do wish B.P. luck at stopping the spill, the coastal folk luck at it being less than anticipated and the lawyers sent down by D.C. the luck to be in a small boat checking the scene when a Killer whale thinks they are sharks, because of the professional courtesy.
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Cowboy
Posted on Friday, May 14, 2010 - 07:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

As we are told the amount of lost oil and the price of La sweet crude the revenue loss is above $2000000.00 per day, you can bet BP is not just setting on thier butts.( they are doing every thing possible)
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Hex
Posted on Friday, May 14, 2010 - 07:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Barack Obama sends nuclear experts to tackle BP's Gulf of Mexico oil leak

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/en ergy/oilandgas/7726142/Barack-Obama-sends-nuclear- experts-to-tackle-BPs-Gulf-of-Mexico-oil-leak.html

Pressed further about the meeting, he said they had "come up with one good idea" but declined to elaborate.
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Aesquire
Posted on Friday, May 14, 2010 - 08:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hmm. Does glow in the dark Gumbo taste the same?
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Cowboy
Posted on Friday, May 14, 2010 - 08:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

They came up with one good idea
where in hell did he get his wild well experience
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Glitch
Posted on Friday, May 14, 2010 - 08:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Barack Obama sends nuclear experts to tackle BP's Gulf of Mexico oil leak
Yet another reason BO should just go back to community organizing.
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Hex
Posted on Friday, May 14, 2010 - 11:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

As Plan Z is being prepared, here is the industries latest attempt. Good luck lads.




http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/15/us/15junk.html?partner=rss&emc=rss
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Hex
Posted on Saturday, May 15, 2010 - 01:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

http://www.businessweek.com/news/2010-05-14/obama- sends-bomb-mars-experts-to-fix-bp-oil-spill-update 1-.html

“I don’t think there is a lot of confidence in BP in Washington right now,” David Pursell, a managing director at Tudor Pickering Holt & Co. LLC in Houston, said by phone. Chu’s decision to bring in additional scientists may reflect that concern, he said.
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Hex
Posted on Saturday, May 15, 2010 - 01:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Really? Imagine that.
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Hex
Posted on Sunday, May 16, 2010 - 02:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Scientists Find Giant Plumes of Oil Forming Under the Gulf

Scientists are finding enormous oil plumes in the deep waters of the Gulf of Mexico, including one as large as 10 miles long, 3 miles wide and 300 feet thick in spots. The discovery is fresh evidence that the leak from the broken undersea well could be substantially worse than estimates that the government and BP have given.

“There’s a shocking amount of oil in the deep water, relative to what you see in the surface water,” said Samantha Joye, a researcher at the University of Georgia who is involved in one of the first scientific missions to gather details about what is happening in the gulf. “There’s a tremendous amount of oil in multiple layers, three or four or five layers deep in the water column.”



http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/16/us/16oil.html
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Xb12xmike
Posted on Sunday, May 16, 2010 - 12:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Could the shifting of the liquid oil and water, on/in the earth change the weight dispersment of the earths' axis? Kinda like an unbalanced wheel?

We should start building those spaceships now.....
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Sifo
Posted on Sunday, May 16, 2010 - 01:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The Earth is self balancing... Like Dynabeads!
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Whatever
Posted on Sunday, May 16, 2010 - 01:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

This is not looking good at all... I actually do not give a rat's ass who is to blame, it could be Jesse Helm's fault that God is smiting the US for his hateful comments about the Haitians...
JUST FIX THE DAMN THING ALREADY!!!
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Hex
Posted on Sunday, May 16, 2010 - 01:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Amen Sister!
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Hex
Posted on Monday, May 17, 2010 - 06:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)





http://www.nasa.gov/topics/earth/features/oilspill/oil_spill_gallery.html
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Hex
Posted on Tuesday, May 18, 2010 - 10:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)





http://www.esl.lsu.edu/home/
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Hex
Posted on Tuesday, May 18, 2010 - 10:30 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)





http://www.esl.lsu.edu/home/
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Hex
Posted on Tuesday, May 18, 2010 - 10:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)





http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/18/us/18spill.html?hp
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Blake
Posted on Tuesday, May 18, 2010 - 12:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)



NY Times photo posted by Eric (Hex) is of "the eastern side of the South Pass of the Mississippi River". See block #5 of South Pass region shown above.


Oil being pulled away from shore into loop current... better or worse versus hitting LA coastal regions?
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Blake
Posted on Tuesday, May 18, 2010 - 12:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Update on Gulf of Mexico Oil Spill Response - 18 May
Release date: 18 May 2010

BP today provided an update on developments in the response to the MC252 oil well incident in the Gulf of Mexico.

Subsea Source Control and Containment
Subsea efforts continue to focus on progressing options to stop the flow of oil from the well through interventions via the blow out preventer (BOP), and to collect the flow of oil from the leak points. These efforts are being carried out in conjunction with governmental authorities and other industry experts.

The riser insertion tube tool (RITT) containment system that was put into place in the end of the leaking riser is operational. It is estimated to be collecting and carrying about 2,000 barrels a day (b/d) of oil to flow up to the drillship Discoverer Enterprise on the surface 5,000 feet above. Produced oil is being stored on the drillship while produced gas is being flared.

It is expected that it will take some time to increase the flow through the system and maximise the proportion of oil and gas flowing through the broken riser that will be captured and transported to the drillship.

This remains a new technology and both its continued operation and its effectiveness in capturing the oil and gas remain uncertain. Other containment options continue to be progressed.

BP also continues to develop options to shut off the flow of oil from the well through interventions via the failed BOP.
Plans continue to develop a so called "top kill" operation where heavy drilling fluids are injected into the well to stem the flow of oil and gas, followed by cement to seal the well. Most of the equipment is on site and preparations continue for this operation, with a view to deployment in the next week or so. Options have also been developed to potentially combine this with the injection under pressure of a variety of materials into the BOP to seal off upward flow.

Work on the first relief well, which began on May 2, continues. The DDII drilling rig began drilling the second relief well on May 16. Each of these wells is estimated to take some three months to complete from the commencement of drilling.
Surface Spill Response and Containment
Work continues to collect and disperse oil that has reached the surface of the sea. Over 750 vessels are involved in the response effort, including skimmers, tugs, barges and recovery vessels.

Intensive operations to skim oil from the surface of the water have now recovered, in total, some 158,000 barrels (6.6 million gallons) of oily liquid. The total length of boom deployed as part of efforts to prevent oil reaching the coast is now more than 1.7 million feet, including over 400,000 feet of sorbent boom.

In total over 19,000 personnel from BP, other companies and government agencies are currently involved in the response to this incident. So far 15,600 claims have been filed and 2,700 have already been paid.

On 17 May, BP announced further grants, totalling $70 million, to Florida, Alabama, Louisiana and Mississippi to help mitigate the economic impact of the oil spill. Including these grants, the cost of the response to date amounts to about $625 million, including the cost of the spill response, containment, relief well drilling, previous grants to the Gulf states, settlements and federal costs.
Further information:
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Blake
Posted on Tuesday, May 18, 2010 - 01:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

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Blake
Posted on Tuesday, May 18, 2010 - 01:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Volume of sea water in Gulf of Mexico = 643,000,000,000,000,000 (643 quadrillion) gallons.

Photos of relatively small/localized crude oil contaminated coast are disturbing. They however do not accurately portray the status of the coastal regions as a whole.

For every photo of gross crude oil contamination, there are a thousand of still pristine coastline.

Let's hope it stays that way.

Keep it real.
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Hex
Posted on Tuesday, May 18, 2010 - 02:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

"That puts 45,728 square miles of federal gulf fishing grounds, or 19 percent, off limits, up from 24,241 square miles..."

http://www.aolnews.com/nation/article/tar-balls-wash-up-on-key-west-fla-beach-unclear-if-gulf-spill-is-origin/19481383





http://sero.nmfs.noaa.gov/deepwater_horizon_oil_spill.htm
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Hex
Posted on Tuesday, May 18, 2010 - 02:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

May 18 (Bloomberg) -- Florida and Gulf Coast cities in Louisiana, Mississippi and Alabama may see credit ratings cut because of the BP Plc oil spill if tourism falls and property values drop, Moody’s Investors Service said....

http://www.businessweek.com/news/2010-05-18/florid a-gulf-states-may-suffer-from-bp-oil-spill-moody-s -says.html
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Hex
Posted on Tuesday, May 18, 2010 - 04:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

If we're going to keep perusing deep water offshore drilling, I suggest the oil industries involved need to be able to get people down to the seafloor at what ever depth they are drilling.

Alvin, (although week in tools for this purpose) can dive for 9 hours at 15,000 ft. That is 3x deeper than the need for the deep horizion task.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DSV_Alvin

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_Submergence_Vehi cle
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