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     Sifo |
* In 1998 the frequency of testing BOP's was cut in half. It must be Clinton's fault! http://apnews.myway.com/article/20100508/D9FIL6L00 .html Actually I found this article pretty interesting as a person who doesn't know the oil business. | ||
| Sifo |
Obama biggest recipient of BP cash That might explain this... Since spill, feds have given 27 waivers to oil companies in gulf So you do favors for the oil companies while standing in front of the cameras demonizing the oil companies. So I look surprised? | ||
| Hex |
Bea told the AP he believes a chemical reaction caused by setting cement created heat and a gas bubble which destroyed the seal. http://www.marketwatch.com/story/report-methane-bu bble-may-have-cause-blast-spill-2010-05-08?reflink =MW_news_stmp | ||
| Reindog |
White House spokesman Robert Gibbs says the Obama administration will "keep a boot to the throat" of BP to make sure the company stops oil from a sunken rig from pouring into the Gulf of Mexico as soon as possible. (May 3). This is just one more manifestation of Obama's Socialist hatred of Capitalism. One would think that the Tough Guy would use this inappropriate language against America's real enemies but he rolls over like a little lapdog when it comes to them. | ||
| Sifo |
* In 1974 with 36.1% of oil from foreign sources, President Richard Nixon said, “At the end of this decade, in the year 1980, the United States will not be dependent on any other country for the energy we need.” * In 1975 with 36.1% of oil from foreign sources, President Gerald Ford said, “We must reduce oil imports by one million barrels per day by the end of this year and by two million barrels per day by the end of 1977.” * In 1979 with 40.5% of oil from foreign sources, President Jimmy Carter said, “Beginning this moment, this nation will never use more foreign oil than we did in 1977 – never.” * In 1981 with 43.6% of oil from foreign sources, President Ronald Reagan said, “While conservation is worthy in itself, the best answer is to try to make us independent of outside sources to the greatest extent possible for our energy.” * In 1992 with 47.2% of oil from foreign sources, President George Bush said, “When our administration developed our national energy strategy, three principles guided our policy: reducing our dependence on foreign oil…” * In 1995 with 49.8% of oil from foreign sources, President Bill Clinton said, “The nation’s growing reliance on imports of oil…threatens the nation’s security…[we] will continue efforts to…enhance domestic energy production.” * In 2006 with 65.5% of oil from foreign sources, President George W. Bush said, “Breakthroughs…will help us reach another great goal: to replace more than 75 percent of our oil imports from the Middle East by 2025.” * In 2009 with 66.2% of oil from foreign sources, President Barack Obama said, “It will be the policy of my administration to reverse our dependence on foreign oil while building a new energy economy that will create millions of jobs.” That is a scary footnote about government solutions. It should scare you regardless of political affiliation. I can't wait to see how the government solution to health care works out in a similar time frame. | ||
| Cowboy |
It is not impossable to produce our own oil,we have the reserves IF IF IF the tree huggers and the rest of the wacko's would just get out of the way. I have never seen so many people that you have to drag to the bank when the is a ride just out side thier door. | ||
| Hex |
Why would environmentally conservative folks get out of your way after this and your industry's track record. You've got a bigger problem now. Keep America Beautiful. | ||
| Hex |
BP Chamber Clogged, Removed From Leaking Gulf Well http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601102&si d=aP2ZrjaBp7a4 | ||
| Hex |
Time for Plan Z yet? | ||
| Cowboy |
Hex-- You realy amase me ,I Dont think you know much a bout what makes our country function. This will be proven not to be as bad as the liberal media tries to make it.We are spending way to money on foren oil now.If we stop any form of oilcomeing ashore our dollar will really lose it value. To end any risk of a spill that means we would have to shut in all offshore wells, next what about the big ofshore receiving station operating off shore, there is a super tanker tied up there 24/7 what do you think would happen if that line was damaged or God forbid two of them were to run together that would make this look like a tea cup. Remember there is no more a chanse of another drilling acident than there is a shiping acident. Do you remember the great Valdese spill. O and one other thing when this is over I will get a true and accurate acount of the oil amount that came ashore ( I have family working in this clean up and some are fishermen I have to remain nutural and honest in this)You can rest a sure I will report it here. Till then I damn sure will not pay any attention to liberal news. | ||
| Hex |
Well I sure wouldn't pay any attention to what BP is reporting, that's for sure. This ain't goin' to be over any time soon. | ||
| Sifo |
Keep America Beautiful. Wealthy countries by far are the cleanest countries. Creating wealth takes affordable energy. The irony is that all this dirty oil keeps the US a fairly clean place to live. Coal too. | ||
| Reindog |
The current issue of Time lists other oil disasters. 1)Ixtoc I, Gulf of Mexico, 1979, 140M gallons 2)Exxon Valdez, 1989, 10.9M gallons. 3)Santa Barbara CA, 1969, 4.2M gallons. 4)Deepwater Horizon, 2010, 2.9M gallons (Based on spill rate of 210K gallons/day for 14 days). Any disaster is unacceptable but this is clearly "not the worst disaster ever" as some in the Liberal media have been reporting. This allows the radicals to politicize the disaster just as some are trying to label Arizonians as fascist, storm trooping Nazis for simply trying to enforce what the Federal government mandates but has failed to do. Perspective, come on and get some.  And while we are at it, please get your boot off our throat, Mr. President. (Message edited by reindog on May 08, 2010) | ||
| Jerry_haughton |
Hex, I don't know you, but I've read a lot of your words here on BWB over the years. You seem, well, contrary. My Dad woulda called you an "aginner," i.e., you seem to be against everything. And you seem like you're against the use of oil. Am I reading you right? If so, I propose a solution to your problem, which would also be a solution to everyone's problem: I propose that you stop using oil. This, of course, will mean that you can't drive your car, or ride your motorcycle. It'll also mean your kids (assuming you have some) can't ride the bus to school, and their school might not be warm (or cool) when they get there. It'll mean that you can't buy your groceries at the local supermarket (you know how that stuff gets there, right?), and no more Gander Mountain, either. Not sure if you still sell your fishing gear retail, but if you do, I assume your customers drive to your store. Sorry, they'll have to shop elsewhere - there's no way you'd want to sell your product to anyone that used oil to get to your store. You'll sell to your customers via UPS, you say? Nope, not any more - UPS (and FedEx, and USPS, and ...) uses oil to deliver your goods. (Say, do your customers use motorboats, by any chance? Ruh roh!) And the list goes on, and on, and on... So........if you (and everyone else) who is using this accident to cry about the evils of oil will simply cease and desist your use of same, the reserves that are left will last a lot longer for the rest of us, and the savings might be significant enough that the United States can finally tell the Middle East to pound sand. Do this, dude. Do it for you. Do it for me. Do it for your country. Thank you in advance. FB | ||
| Jerry_haughton |
PS to Hex - I just discovered you're into Jeeps: http://www.badweatherbikers.com/cgibin/discus/show .cgi?tpc=4062&post=1811611#POST1811611 I'm curious if your Jeep has one of them nasty internal combustion thingies under the hood... FB | ||
| Hex |
I'm not so into them as I am my feet, bicycle, and public transportation. You 'conservatives' seem to me to be the ones most contrary. And the most squeamish to admit fault as well. | ||
| Hex |
Wealthy countries by far are the cleanest countries. That's because we buy our fuel from corporations who rape other's environments, just happened to hit home this time. | ||
| Cowboy |
Note-- The sad thing about this neg. publicy is as we speak a good many of these rigs are preparing to move in to forin countrys that are very un friendly to the U.S.A.(north Korea---Nam.) damn that should realy help us out. | ||
| Jerry_haughton |
Cool, more oil for the rest of us! Can we assume you'll now be selling all of your motor vehicles?
Why do you call me a "conservative"? And whose "fault" is the spill in the Gulf? Stuff happens, dude. We (the world) revolves around internal combustion. We need oil, plain and simple. If someone truly is at "fault" for this spill, justice needs to be served. Right now all I see is political grandstanding. Please post up a link to the "for sale" ads for your Buell and your Jeep. FB | ||
| Sifo |
That's because we buy our fuel from corporations who rape other's environments, just happened to hit home this time. You could support your claim if the squalor third world countries lived in was caused by oil pollution. The only problem with your argument is that isn't the case. In fact the big oil producers tend to be wealthy and clean. You 'conservatives' seem to me to be the ones most contrary. And the most squeamish to admit fault as well. You should make some attempt to support a statement like that. Your hypocrisy has been clearly pointed out. Simply making the claim that someone else is a hypocrite is pretty immature. | ||
| Road_thing |
Before this thread descends into the usual Liberal vs. Conservative political posturing and finger-pointing, let's not forget that what we're talking about here is a tragic fatal accident with serious environmental repercussions that was caused by a combination of mechanical and human failures. I don't think we completely understand what happened to the well yet, but I'm pretty sure it had nothing to do with anybody's political beliefs. Nobody anywhere, not on that rig, not in the BP organization, not in the Minerals Management Service, not anywhere, wanted 11 people to die or millions of gallons of oil to be spilled into the ocean. rt | ||
| Sifo |
If I understand correctly the BOP has to go through documented testing two weeks. If that's correct and assuming everything checked out at the last test, this sounds like a very bad accident that didn't involve any wrong doing. To vilify oil companies for that is pretty much the height of hypocrisy, unless of course you really are living without the benefits of oil. I doubt there are 5 people in the US that could make that claim though. | ||
| Aptbldr |
Oil is a finite resource and USA has reserves. Produced today, it's sold on the global market at market price. Held in reserve, it's strategic power & "money in the bank". Why not buy other countries' oil and hold onto our reserves? Oil produced in US fields these days is NOT necessarily consumed here (or sold to "us" at lower prices). | ||
| Sifo |
Held in reserve, it's strategic power & "money in the bank". Held until a viable alternative (only a matter of time) is available your money in the bank suddenly get devalued. Somewhere there is a correct balance. I'm not sure our current situation is that correct balance. | ||
| Cowboy |
RT You are sure fire correct. I only print what I know for a fact. There is a problem that needs to be solved. and this who shot John dont fix any thing, buy damn this Neg. talk sure gets under my skin. I know for a fact that a lot of in correct info. has been published just futher some ones personal agenda. | ||
| Reindog |
I am a conservative and a Conservative but I have absolutely no idea what you are saying. Contrary to what? Admit fault to what? Huh? I will admit to being squeamish but that might be the result of the potato salad I ate a few hours ago. You're just gonna have to be more specific. You'd probably be surprised to discover that I will probably out party you anytime, anywhere. Don't make no difference to me. I am the Man from Amsterdam. Haughton and Denise usually have to resort to extreme measures to get me to stand down in a party situation. And I ain't the only Bueller like this. We party hard and we fight Obama hard cuz we are bed-wetting, Obama hating fools. (Message edited by reindog on May 08, 2010) | ||
| Blake |
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| Blake |
"will kill all life in the Gulf of Mexico" "Armageddon" Pure fiction. Apparently some idiots imagine that no means exist to sequester and collect or burn off floating oil. The extreme ignorance coupled with hysteria that some are so eager to embrace is outrageous. | ||
| Toronto_s3 |
I don't know about you guys but I have been buying stock in Canadian oil and pipeline companies in the last couple of days. I've always been buying some of these companies (which pay excellent dividend rates by the way) but have been going on a tear lately. The stocks have been getting cheaper in the last couple of days with the downturn in the market and quite frankly seem like a great place to put money for everybody thats freaked out about deep water drilling and large company oil. Now I know a lot of you equate Canadian oil with oil sands production but there is a hell of a lot of conventional oil production that happens in Saskatchewan, Alberta and British Columbia. Horizontal drilling is giving a lot of conventional Canadian oil wells extended reserve life and then of course there is the oil sands operations. Stocks to consider include... -Crescent Point -Arc Energy -Vermillion -InterPipeline -Pembina Pipeline -Daylight Energy -Zargon Oil and Gas -Trinidad Drilling All of these stocks have listings on the Dow (although hidden on the pink sheet boards). The other great thing about these stocks is the Canadian dollar hedge you get. In the next few years as the U.S. dollar continues to decline against the Canadian dollar you will be making effectively more with your American dollar. It's a bitch about the oil spill and all but you might as well make some money while you are at it. |
