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Dwardo
| Posted on Thursday, May 06, 2010 - 12:53 pm: |
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Has anybody had one of these? Apparently I need one. I don't have significant neck pain, just stiffness and soreness, but I've been having neurological symptoms such as leg weakness and tingling/numbness in my hands. This scares me and I'm wondering if anybody has already been there. Also, how long did it take to return to riding. I already raised the bars on my M2 because I felt the neck position was uncomfortable and I guess I might raise them again. I haven't decided whether I should get his done asap or wait until after the season. I may mothball the M2 and use the Road King if I wait. It's not as fun but it's certainly easier on the spine. Maybe I can justify and really good shock for the M2 lol. Thoughts? |
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Dwardo
| Posted on Friday, May 07, 2010 - 03:01 pm: |
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<bump> Nobody? |
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Oldog
| Posted on Friday, May 07, 2010 - 03:04 pm: |
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Not I sir on the lower upper disc cube ottomy an new shock on the ride yeah why not |
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Glitch
| Posted on Friday, May 07, 2010 - 03:08 pm: |
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My Dad had part of his spine fused together. He suffered for years, and when it came down to having the surgery, he kept putting it off. He wishes he hadn't. The recuperation time was minimal, a week or two I think. He was 70 when he had the surgery, or at least his late 60s. So you ought to heal up even faster. I know if he were to talk to ya, he'd say, never fear, relief is on the way! |
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B00stzx3
| Posted on Friday, May 07, 2010 - 03:32 pm: |
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I swear by my inversion table for back problems, especially my mom and dad. I dunno if this is applicable to the situtation but worth a try ebfore surgery! Inversion hangs ya upside down to undo gravity compressing your spine. |
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Nevrenuf
| Posted on Friday, May 07, 2010 - 03:46 pm: |
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your not the only one to swear by his/her inversion table. best thing i could have done for the back. i need to get back into using it. inverted situps using a 35lb dumbbell. even talked my brother inlaw into getting one. |
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B00stzx3
| Posted on Friday, May 07, 2010 - 03:55 pm: |
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@Never, yes!! They are great. I was a bit skeptical ar first, I lumped it in with homeopathic and accupressure and what my dad calls "weirdo hippy magic" stuff lol. But it works dayung well, especially after a long day on the 9R @ Dwardo, I see you're local to me. Have you tried visiting a Healthy Back Store? Closest one to you is in Columbia. Or you can always borrow mine when I move to Dundalk this july! Its awesome ofr the back swear to Jeebus. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inversion_therapy (Message edited by b00stzx3 on May 07, 2010) |
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Bott
| Posted on Friday, May 07, 2010 - 05:58 pm: |
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had 2 laminectomy surgeries,then had an l-1 and l-2 fusion with rods and cages. This is lower back, but I would assume the surgery is similar. That being said....i strongly suggest alternative treatments to surgery,if possible. My pelvic bone was used as a donor site on both sides for the fusion. Those areas are a constant source of strong,dull pain. my operations were done via workmans comp, and I was forced to wade through oceans of paperwork and several insurance company-hired Doctor appointments. In the end after all the M.R.I.s and surgeries were awarded to the low bidder- I wound up with chronic pain and 'foot drop' which is the loss of nerve signal to my left ankle. I am unable to move my foot at all, and wear an orthotic device in order to walk. My bike is fitted with a Pingel EZ Shift,or my riding days would be over. Before my surgeries the nerve impingement was causing SEVERE leg pain, which I am glad to be rid of. I dont want to be the jerk that is telling horror stories-not my intention at all.I have spoken to countless people who have had similar surgery with outstanding results-but I just want to let you know that when you sign the paperwork stating the possible problems that can occur with fusions-----they mean it! On a happier, and likely more relevant to YOUR situation, I have an ex brother-in-law that had a neck fusion, and is very happy with his decision. I guess after my long winded post,what i mean to say to you is this: Weigh out all your options,try the least invasive methods , and then if surgery is the best option I wish you the best of luck and a quick recovery. |
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Bads1
| Posted on Friday, May 07, 2010 - 07:31 pm: |
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never fear, relief is on the way! That is not always true. In my life time I've heard lots of horror stories as well as some happy endings. |
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Hex
| Posted on Friday, May 07, 2010 - 07:50 pm: |
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I swear by Yoga, give it a serious college try before the knife. |
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Swampy
| Posted on Friday, May 07, 2010 - 07:52 pm: |
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About 15 years ago I had an appointment with a surgeon, during the time before the appointment, I went to my chiropractor and massage therapist and explained my situation. I got some intensive workouts from both for about 2 weeks and was able to cancel the appointment with the surgeon one day before the appointment date. My MD who set up the appointment could not believe I could touch my toes and wanted to know what happened. I know a mechanic who had two surgeries on his neck to get the feeling back in his hand a couple of years apart, he is now disabled. Soooo, you could probably guess what I am would tell you. Unless you broke it surgery probably is not going to fix it, but I have been know to be wrong before so I wouldn't ask me. Good luck, heal well. |
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Midnightrider
| Posted on Saturday, May 08, 2010 - 01:53 am: |
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Dwardo Had the similar surgery 5 or 6 years ago. Similar in that is was an anterior cervical discectomy with a plate but I had a bone graft and not a fusion. Went great, fixed everything and no problems since. Nice thing about the plate is that the hardware holds it solid and safe - so there's no post-op neck brace. Nice thing about the anterior approach is it avoids messing with most the muscles in your neck so it's a quicker recovery. Let me know if you'd like more details Don |
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Midnightrider
| Posted on Saturday, May 08, 2010 - 01:54 am: |
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Also recommend you don't wait. Some symptoms like the weakness may not be entirely reversible if you let it go too long ( I used to be an orthopedic nurse) |
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Bikerjim99
| Posted on Saturday, May 08, 2010 - 07:20 am: |
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Fused C5 and C6, titanium plate and graft. One day stay after surgery, everything went fine. Doesn't affect my riding at all. |
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Zac4mac
| Posted on Saturday, May 08, 2010 - 09:17 am: |
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I had C-4,5&6 fused with a plate in 2001 after I broke my neck. The disks blew out inside the vertebrae and were pinching off my spinal cord. Neurosurgeon said I'd have been a quad in less than 6 months without the surgery. He was a little more graphic, "in a wheelchair, pissing and shitting yourself" is what I remember... Still have issues with numbness and phantom leg pain, Tramadol is my friend. Still have pretty good mobility but "full tuck" on my 1125R takes a little help from my left thumb under my chin. Zack |
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Snake_oil
| Posted on Saturday, May 08, 2010 - 12:16 pm: |
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4 surgeries, 2 at l5-s1 and 2 at l4-l5, currently have massive disk rupture at l4-l5, doctors want to fuse, I got a second opinion and the doc admitted the the odds of success were 50/50 and I should only consider another surgery as a last resort. During my 3rd surgery the surgeon nicked a nerve and I know have no feeling in my right foot and lost the use of muscle groups from the hip down. here in Oregon we have medical marijuana I did allot of research into this and know make my own pain and anti spasm tinctures. I also have a teeter, get deep tissue massages and stretch and exercise as much as I can. Unless you are a quivering lump on the floor with suicidal thoughts I would seek all other options first. |
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Nik
| Posted on Saturday, May 08, 2010 - 03:19 pm: |
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I have an instrumented surgical fusion of T11-L1 as a result of breaking my back (no it wasn't a motorcycle that did it...) I was up and walking the next day; back in school the next week; and started easing back into riding within a month. So overall a pretty quick recovery, however I didn't regain all the core strength I lost as a result of them slicing me open for a couple years after. |
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Dwardo
| Posted on Saturday, May 08, 2010 - 05:31 pm: |
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Thanks all! Keep it coming! Midnightrider, do you mind if I PM or email you? I'd like to hear your input. |
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Nevrenuf
| Posted on Saturday, May 08, 2010 - 10:23 pm: |
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met one of my sons classmates dad quite a few years ago who was in a car accident and decided not to do the fusion(had to crawl if he didn't want to be in the wheel chair) and never regretted it although he had to walk with a cane. |
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Midnightrider
| Posted on Sunday, May 09, 2010 - 03:47 am: |
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Dwardo Pm sent |
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Stevedplumber
| Posted on Sunday, May 09, 2010 - 07:33 pm: |
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degeneratative(sp) disc spinal fusion l3 to s1. 8 screws 2 rods 3 new discs lil fusion material before surgery riding time was down to an hour and a half. cutting the lawn with a self propelled mower put be out of commission for the day. that is when i knew it was time. doing great know. better than before the procedure. |
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Honu
| Posted on Monday, May 10, 2010 - 07:47 am: |
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Dwardo, Had the C-5=C-6 Disc rupture causing severe pain to my right arm and numbness to the thumb/index finger. Disc removed, cadiver bone plug installed, titanium plate screwed in place, my vertaebrae is supposed to grow over and through the bone plug creating a fused solid piece. Problem is mine did not achieve total fusion, still have slight pain and numbness, but it is tolerable, pre surgery was not tolerable. Its all about how much pain you can live with, and like others have said you do not want to do permanent damage to the nerves affected (this is where the experts, Dr's come in) strenght and movement of the affected limbs can be tested to see if damage is being done. Take Care and God Bless |
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Bads1
| Posted on Monday, May 10, 2010 - 12:41 pm: |
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Before any MD would touch me or any of my family a Chiropractor would do full X-Rays and exam before anything else would be done. JMO |
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Boogiman1981
| Posted on Monday, May 10, 2010 - 01:34 pm: |
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see if you can get a disc replacement they are available they work and you retain all of your mobility. when my ruptured disc goes out again for the final count that's what i'll be doing. fusions are a 50/50 shot either it works or it doesn't help/makes it worse and there is NO going back ever |
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Bott
| Posted on Monday, May 10, 2010 - 03:39 pm: |
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really wish I'd had cadaver bone as an option with my fusion. Some days the 'donor' areas hurt worse than the 'fixed' vertabraes.. |
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