| Author | Message | ||
     Drkside79 |
NEW YORK – The homeless man lay face down, unmoving, on the sidewalk outside an apartment building, blood from knife wounds pooling underneath his body. One person passed by in the early morning. Then another, and another. Video footage from a surveillance camera shows at least seven people going by, some turning their heads to look, others stopping to gawk. One even lifted the homeless man's body, exposing what appeared to be blood on the sidewalk underneath him, before walking away. It wasn't until after the 31-year-old Guatemalan immigrant had been lying there for nearly an hour that emergency workers arrived, and by then, it was too late. Hugo Alfredo Tale-Yax — who police said was stabbed while intervening to help a woman being attacked — had died. "I think it's horrific," said Marla Cohan, who teaches at P.S. 82, a school across the street from where Tale-Yax died. "I think people are just afraid to step in; they don't want to get involved; who knows what their reasons are?" Tale-Yax was walking behind a man and a woman on 144th Street in the Jamaica section of Queens around 6 a.m. April 18 when the couple got into a fight that became physical, according to police, who pieced together what happened from surveillance footage and interviews with area residents. Tale-Yax was stabbed several times when he intervened to help the woman, NYPD spokesman Paul Browne said. She and the other man fled in different directions, and Tale-Yax pursued the man before collapsing. Authorities are searching for the man and woman. A 911 call of a woman screaming came in around 6 a.m., but when officers responded to the address that was given, no one was there, police said. Another call came in around 7 a.m., saying a man was lying on the street, but gave the wrong address. Finally, around 7:20 a.m., someone called 911 to report a man had possibly been stabbed at 144th Street and 88th Road. Police and firefighters arrived a few minutes later to find Tale-Yax dead. Officials say they're not sure whether the man was still alive when passers-by opted not to help him. Residents who regularly pass by the same stretch of sidewalk, in a working-class neighborhood of low-rise apartment buildings and fast food restaurants near a busy boulevard, were unnerved by the way Tale-Yax died. "Is anybody human anymore?" asked Raechelle Groce, visiting her grandmother at a nearby building on Monday. "What's wrong with humanity?" In the urban environment, it's not unusual to see people on the street, sleeping or under the influence of drugs or alcohol. But even assuming the person they've just passed is drunk, instead of injured, is no reason not to notify authorities, said Seth Herman, another teacher at the school. He remembered calling an ambulance when seeing a man who appeared to be homeless on the street, with a beer bottle near by. He called 911, he said, because "I felt it wasn't my job to figure out if the person was drunk or actually hurt." Groce agreed. "I just think that's horrible, whether you're homeless or not," she said. "He's a human being; he needs help." | ||
| Damnut |
I saw the video last night and I have to say that I probably would have walked right by the guy and not known he was injured. In the video the guy falls on his chest and just lays there. A few folks walk by and one guy stops and lifts the homeless guy up, that's when you could actually see some blood. The news report last night said the guy that lifted him up was the one that called 911. If I was in NYC, walking down this particular sidewalk that morning and (A) I didn't see any blood and (B) the guy didn't say anything to me, I would've thought he was just passed out on the sidewalk. | ||
| Nevrenuf |
unfortunately that happens everywhere nowadays. a lot fewer people raising there offspring up with any kind of morals and decency. | ||
| Sifo |
Wasn't more than a couple of weeks ago I commented on that here. I collapsed in pain from a kidney stone in a parking lot next to a busy intersection. Laid there for about half an hour. Not a single person stopped to check on me. Hard to believe the woman he saved didn't even bother to call 911. WTF? | ||
| Ohio_xb12 |
Number one rule of other people's domestic disputes. The person who intervenes immediately becomes the enemy of both participants in the dispute. I hate to say it but have seen it before. If I see it I will call police and not intervene. This guy tries to protect someone and loses his life for his troubles. Sad | ||
| Drkside79 |
I hope the people that passed him up have trouble sleeping. | ||
| Froggy |
It does look like a random drunk bum passed out on the street. | ||
| Brumbear |
I see bums passed out all the time I might have just passed him by as well especially if there was a little blood.If there was allot I would call 911 but I would not touch him thats for sure. I have also called 911 before in Newark for a bum on the side of route 21 he looked like he had been hit by a car no one came by the time I went back to the shop later in the day I went by again he was standing up panhandling so who knows it may have looked like just a bum? It is SAD though | ||
| Bikertrash05 |
Eh, what do you expect, it is NYC, where the cops steal your bike. http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/04/23/bike-stolen-check-the-police-station/ (Message edited by BikerTrash05 on April 27, 2010) | ||
| Froggy |
Yes those damn cops stole 165 cars too! The bastards! | ||
| Tiltcylinder |
Call the local precinct to complain your bike was 'stolen'. They will tell you if there was a 'push' on to remove them and where they're at. Call to report your car 'stolen' and the first thing the local precinct (at least in Manhattan) will ask is "where was it parked?". Most cars are moved a couple of blocks and will have a yellow sticker or flyer attached that tells traffic agents "Do not ticket this vehicle, it was moved under orders" includes date and other info. It's procedure, it happens all the time. People blatantly ignore the no parking signs here. If the prez comes to town, little is said publicly about the route beforehand. We're parade city here... over one hundred of parades a year. The bikes seems a bit excessive... who knows. As far as a 'homeless' person lying on the sidewalk... I wouldn't stop. Wake an emotionly disturbed person (EDP in police speak) and you never know what you'll get. Like a box of chocolates... you never know what you'll get... crunchy frog, springy bolts, lunatic with a 9mm... sure you want a chocolate? Even if the really crazy one would be one in a million... that means there's 12 of them here every day! Lived here too long... seen all kinds of crap. | ||
| B00stzx3 |
Not to hate on a whole city but.... by far the rudest and least friendly/personible people I've ever met. And I grew up in DC which is probably the 2nd least friendliest city around. People so wrapped up in their own crap that they won't stop to help anyone. You should've seen me trying to ask for directions in New York, it was like I banged their mom or something. I'll take violent, dirty, dangerous Baltimore anyday of the week. At least people are nice there. | ||
| Cityxslicker |
Note to self; stay the F outta Queens. | ||
| Brumbear |
It aint bad I have friends out there and I love going over to sunnyside section and middlevilliage man that place rocks they got some great bakeries all through Queens and restuaraunts and if you like to party Astoria is legendary! !!!!! | ||
| Lemonchili_x1 |
Hmmm... about 5 weeks 'til we arrive in NYC...  While I can understand what happened, and that people don't won't to "get involved", it's a sad thing, and it's not just NYC. | ||
| Rkc00 |
Astoria,Queens. That were I was born. (Message edited by RKC00 on April 29, 2010) | ||
| Kc10_fe |
Ive watched two bums beat each other bloody over a manhole cover that had steam coming out of it. If you make eye contact they will get up follow and spare change you. They shit and piss in the street or on the park benches or right next to them and thats where kids come and play a few hours later. The lowest rent youll find on Rittenhouse Square is about 6K a month. People that pay bills to live there have busted a nut to get where they are. The park is full of homeless from Apr - Oct. I get spare changed from 530 AM - till I take the PATCO back to NJ. Some random dude got robbed and shot in the face at the train station the other day. I feel bad for the people that are not jacked in the head from dope or booze and are down and out. Vets with PTSD have to compete with these druggie shit bags for shelter space or food. If you can sit in a train station all day with a sign around your neck asking for money you can easily find work. Philadelphia however awards those that choose not to with brand new housing with iron fencing, free trash pick up and free lawn care. BY free I mean you have to pay Philly City Income Tax which comes out to a whole weeks pay a year if you work in the city of filthy. If law abiding citizens were legally armed like the thugs are illegally that woman wouldnt have needed to be rescued. There would have been a 911 call to pick up a few dead pieces of shit tho. Wheres Al Sharpton at? |
