| Author | Message | ||
     Ironhead1977 |
This guy needs support. Check it out maybe someone can come up with something. http://www.abc2news.com/mediacenter/local.aspx?vid eoid=22384@wmar.web.entriq.net&navCatId=14 | ||
| Ohio_xb12 |
I support the police in every way but these types of things have really been rubbing me the wrong way. I am not one of these people who continually berates the police but is the first to ask for their help when I am in trouble. However, I have seen two incidents in the past two years where police have stepped over the line. In the first incident there was clearly police brutality and the people taping the incident had their cameras taken and were charged with obstructing justice. My real issue is not with their conduct, as police are human like everyone else and sometimes make mistakes. Not all police can be judged by the conduct of a few. Where my problem lies is when we as the citizens they are sworn to protect cannot document their actions and are threatened/punished for attempting to. | ||
| Pwnzor |
I should stay out of this, I'm way too biased to comment. | ||
| Luftkoph |
I don't have a big problem with the way the officer did that,maybe showing his badge and identifying himself instead of whipping out the cannon. The thing I don't like is the law itself but thats what we get here in the good ole usa.these bastards have so many rules and regulations they can bust you for not wiping your ass properly. | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
The ticket was justified. The illegal recording charge is BS. If you are filming anything and a police officer happens to come into frame, you've just committed a crime. I'm pretty sure this was not the intent of the law. | ||
| Geist |
That's just nuts that it is a felony to record someone in public on a video camera. There must be a lot of felonies committed in that state every day. | ||
| Froggy |
I had that emailed to me the other day. Crazy stuff. It has me partly worried, for a while I had a turn signal mounted cam just recording for the hell of it. | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
It appears to me that this is a pre-emptive strike by the MD state police in order to scare the rider into backing off from pursuing any action against the UC officer. I believe he was overly aggressive and the MD state police are embarrassed that it was caught on tape. | ||
| Geforce |
Oh dear... how to approach this one. The dude gets a ticket, accepts responsibility and pays it. The state LATER confiscates his personal property due to a "violation" of the MD law... I don't think they have a case and it is going to do more damage than they think. Ticket = Deserved. Bogus Law Violation = Horse @#!& I really think that officer could have done a better job announcing his state authority prior to brandishing a weapon. 5 seconds is a long time for me to make the fight or flight decision and anytime someone jumps out of a vehicle with the intent to close distance upon me brandishing a weapon I go into combat mode. All he had to do was announce "STATE POLICE" as soon as that door opened. Again, this is small stuff. The rider certainly deserved the ticket and took responsibility for it. They should have just left it at that. | ||
| Mikexlr650 |
seems quite reckless to me. someone in a civilian car with illegally dark windows cuts you off blocks your path and then steps out and points a weapon at you. at this point i would not be thinking he's a cop(regardless of if he states he's an officer! the sound of your bike, traffic, helmet and earplugs would make hearing him difficult), i would be thinking i'm about to be murdered! my response would have landed me in jail had i been that rider. i have friends that are or were cops, they take drawing their weapon very seriously. this guy is a problem waiting to happen and now with this tape he is a serious liability to his dept. | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
I think the UC guy was a little gun happy. | ||
| Aesquire |
If I knew there was a police car right behind me, ( can't tell from the video, it's edited, but he probably did ) I would react with courtesy and slow careful movements. Then complain later about the officers conduct, or not. Was there a noticeable chase? Too much I don't know. But, taking just those few seconds where a guy cuts me off and jumps out with a gun? I might have reacted very badly in that situation. It could have had a very bad outcome. The recording a cop bit though...... I see the reasoning for such a law, and it's not all bad. Undercover agents MUST hide their identities. If I have a visible camera, and you get in my face while I'm taping.... Not my fault. He should get his stuff back and those charges dropped. Period. Oh, and pay the ticket, he's guilty as sin. | ||
| Johnnylunchbox |
The whole thing is F'ed up. Obviously we don't get the full story - either from the video or the news report. I'm gonna suspend judgement. | ||
| Indy_bueller |
The cop should have pulled his badge, not his gun. | ||
| Stalker |
Sounds to me like MD put a law in place to prevent a Rodney King type of incident. If the RK thing happened there the trial would haven been for the camera guy then? In other words if you catch a cop breaking the law on video and report it, with evidence, you committed a felony? Am I getting this right? | ||
| Geforce |
"Oh, and pay the ticket, he's guilty as sin." The rider did. All was well until the video got out and the state compiled a case. In the video the rider even states that he accepted full responsibility for his own actions and is only concerned that the state is now filing a suit against him for recording an officer without consent. *Audio Law According to the News Video.* Which will make even LESS sense in court. Like I said before, they should have just left it alone... | ||
| Malott442 |
That cop would've arrested me. Firstly because I would've evaded, secondly because I would've fled. Pulling a gun immediately after cutting a bike off without emergency lights is bogus. | ||
| Bigblock |
Rights? What rights? | ||
| Gunut75 |
I'm guessing MD does not have a Right to Carry law. | ||
| Mikef5000 |
Isn't pulling a gun strictly for protection of the officer or other civilians? Was there ANY implication that this guy was going to do harm to anyone? He backed up! Isn't that about the exact opposite of threatening behavior? I agree 100% with: I believe he was overly aggressive and the MD state police are embarrassed that it was caught on tape. | ||
| Blackm2 |
+1 Indy. This cop should be reprimanded. He in now way had his life in danger, therefore he should not have pulled his weapon. He has got some civil rights violations in there somewhere, who has Gloria Allreds number? | ||
| Ourdee |
I asked the maryland FBI to take a look at it under "color of law/use of excessive force or misconduct by law enforcement officials and others". Who knows how far that will go. | ||
| Prowler |
Very typical of Police here in the Milwaukee area. The cops run "amuck" and then wonder why people are trying to record everything they do. If they're doing they're job correctly, there'd be no reason why they'd NOT want to be recorded. By now you'd think they'd know that just about everyone on the street has video capabilities and that they need to do things by the book......."MD state police are embarrassed that it was caught on tape." EXACTLY!!!!! My opinion has always been that the majority of cops are the guys that used to bully little kids in grade school and thought.......hey, cool, I can be an ass and get paid for it......Needless to say, my opinion hasn't changed a bit...... | ||
| Crackhead |
Did any one else notice that the lights on the cruiser are not turned on. Why did the UC pull that shit when the marked cruiser could have turn the lights on and do the stop. If the bike tried to run, the cruiser would have the plate on video. From living in MD and watching car jacking, I am surprised the rider didn't launch the bike in to the person with a gun. MD state police have been after bikes lately. I watched my neighbor get pulled over 3 times over 20 miles for "speeding" when he was riding behind me and I was in my car. Each time he was pulled over i stopped with him. And the MD police came up to tell me to move along, i told them i will move when you let the biker go from the bogus stop before they had a chance to tell me anything. One cop even told me that he was trying my neighbor on him bike to run. I am not sure were the police recording law comes from. You need to record when PG police are around do the DA will go after the cops when they beat the shit out of you. (Message edited by crackhead on April 15, 2010) | ||
| Natexlh1000 |
If I saw a guy do that in front of me, you'd better believe that I would have bolted! You don't draw a weapon unless you intend to use it! | ||
| Bandm |
Seems to me the MD police are a bunch of cowboys, they even ride horses. This guy was beaten unconscious and they said the horse did it. Today all charges were dropped and the officers were suspended. http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/university-maryland-stud ent-john-mckenna-intends-sue-police/story?id=10369 269 | ||
| Aeholton |
State's Attorney office made a bad decision in pursuing this. This guy does need help. AMA members should bring this to the attention of the AMA and they should give this guy a hand legally. | ||
| Mm128 |
I am not going to pass judgement on this one either.. But...... there are always 2 sides to a story... Police officers really DONT have the easiest job's on the planet. We are either called to a scene and cursed for being too slow or not wanted because someone is going to jail... Its a no win situation either way.... Matt (LEO SOUTH GA.) | ||
| Vtpeg |
I wonder if this video taper will get charged? <object><param></param><param></param><param></par am><embed></embed></object> | ||
| B00stzx3 |
Well, at least he didn't get the Rodney King treatment like that college kid in PG County.... Meh. Marylands a messed up state. Never boring however. |
