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Bking
Posted on Saturday, April 03, 2010 - 09:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Sitting here in Panera Bread checking out wife's new iPad. She just had to have one on the first day. It's cool alright.

---Bob


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Seanp
Posted on Saturday, April 03, 2010 - 09:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Bob - has she (or you) bought any apps yet? I'm heading to an Apple store next weekend to check one out in person. I may wait until 2.0 to buy one, but if it's really awesome I might get one before I take a few trips abroad this summer. I'd probably get the 3G one though.

Oh, and let's see how quickly the Apple haters come along.
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Delta_one
Posted on Saturday, April 03, 2010 - 10:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I have an iPhone 3gs does this do a lot more than it?

and can you sync you phone or iPod to it?

I see that there is an adapter to plug USB into it available so is there photo editing software available or maybe through an app? field editing my DSLR photos would be awesome.
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Delta_one
Posted on Saturday, April 03, 2010 - 10:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

oh and flash does it work with websites using flash player and can you scroll the scroll bars inside websites?

if you don't know what I mean go to ASLpro.com and click on the dictionary, the word list is in a small scrolling window.
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Bking
Posted on Saturday, April 03, 2010 - 10:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

If your into playing inside your machine with ram, hard drives, cards, you probably wouldn't think it was too cool. It's a sealed up unit like an iPod.

It does indeed operate similar to a iPhone, but is faster and easier to use.

Apple has a pretty good track record changing the industry. Maybe they will do it again.

---Bob
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Bking
Posted on Saturday, April 03, 2010 - 10:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Apple and Adobe are at odds with each other. iPad does not support flash -: (
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Bjbauer
Posted on Saturday, April 03, 2010 - 11:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'm responding with mine. It makes a great e-reader and web browser. No buyers remorse yet!
bb.
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Jumpinjewels
Posted on Sunday, April 04, 2010 - 12:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

My son recently got a job with Apple and he said they were REAL busy today. He's trying to get us to buy some Apple products. I do have the iphone and I think thats enough for now.
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Midknyte
Posted on Sunday, April 04, 2010 - 12:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Checked it out today. Will prolly grab one next payday.

It's neat. It's nice. But I found it to be a bit anti climatic (I already have a Touch and an iPod proper).

It also felt sterile. It's like AOL all over again (a closed enviro), but this time with a chance of survival because they control they experience end to end (hardware).

A laptop replacement it is not. I predict a lot of public pressure / pushback for multi tasking. It's really a lot to expect of users of an otherwise powerful and large device to accept the notion that they can only do one thing at a time. I predict an upgrade to the os in 6 months or less.
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Midknyte
Posted on Sunday, April 04, 2010 - 12:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The Netflix streamer is going to be this device's killer app
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Sunday, April 04, 2010 - 02:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

holding out for the usb ports

Is there a stylus, or is it all finger tip applications ?
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Midknyte
Posted on Sunday, April 04, 2010 - 02:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Capacitive screen. All fingers...
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Phelan
Posted on Sunday, April 04, 2010 - 02:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'm looking forward to the jailbreaks for iPad. I had a lot of killer stuff on my 3GS when it was jailbroke, and can't wait until the latest jailbreak comes out so I can jailbreak it again.
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Reepicheep
Posted on Sunday, April 04, 2010 - 08:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Flash is a mess. Good for apple for not supporting it. I hope the rest of the industry kills it in short order as well.

Between Flash and Acrobat (PDF viewer), I can't think of a time when there hasn't been some huge exploitable security problem with some adobe product out in the wild. And their products and updates are unstable, resource hungry, and more and more annoying every day.

The IPad should end up being a very slick little consumer device.
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Loki
Posted on Sunday, April 04, 2010 - 01:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

There are stylus pens that work with it, also the iPhone and Touch.
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Pwnzor
Posted on Sunday, April 04, 2010 - 09:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Flash is a mess.

said the guy who can't run Flash stuff...
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Sunday, April 04, 2010 - 10:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

ok, next question to those that have it
Is there a draw pad, or plane ink pad option. Ie for drawing, saving rough sketches in files and cliped into documents.

It does that, and I am in.
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Bking
Posted on Sunday, April 04, 2010 - 10:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Check this out

http://www.macworld.com/article/150319/2010/04/ske tchapps.html
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4cammer
Posted on Sunday, April 04, 2010 - 11:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I will have to get one, but not until Q4 2010 when they are priced at 299.00
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Sparky
Posted on Sunday, April 04, 2010 - 11:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

There's another sketchpad from Adobe, it just came out and it's free:
Adobe Ideas 1.0 for iPad
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Reepicheep
Posted on Sunday, April 04, 2010 - 11:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Actually, said the web security guy. All my browsers have flash installed, but installed in a way that it only gets loaded when *I* want it... not when the Viagra add wants it loaded.

Look at the "exploitable defect" history of Adobe web products over the last decade.

For what? The modern equivalent of the blink font?

You can be their fool, I choose not to be...
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Pwnzor
Posted on Monday, April 05, 2010 - 01:30 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Well if you're not looking at fr33 pr0n all the time then you're pretty much safe from that kind of thing.

I love the way flash works, how it looks, it loads fast and delivers nice content. Some times it will freeze on me, but so what.

As for being their fool, I have yet to pay for any Adobe product. I use OpenOffice to make my PDF's for free and Flash is also free, and so is Acrobat Reader.

Wave your epeen somewhere else. My opinion about Apple products is that they're good. Adobe products I've always used the free stuff and it pretty much always works. Very few issues.

Flash still hasn't come to the Droid yet, but it's supposed to be first half of 2010. I can't wait because it will be Hulu and Netflix in the browser with no app required.
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Hootowl
Posted on Monday, April 05, 2010 - 09:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

+1 to everything Bill said.
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Reepicheep
Posted on Monday, April 05, 2010 - 09:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I apologize for responding with a personal attack Pwnzor.

I've cleaned up 4 "Pwned" systems for friends just in the last month. All were running anti-malware when they got popped by a zero day exploit.

Who knows if it was flash or not, I don't really care and don't waste my time trying to figure it out anymore. I just rescue what data I can for them, tell them to change their passwords and watch their credit card and bank statements closely for the next year, then rebuild from scratch. It's a waste of my time, but they are friends... so I don't mind helping them out.

Here is an objective history of flash security issues...

Cert Flash Exploits

Here is what Steve Jobs said at a recent employees meeting about flash:


quote:

About Adobe: They are lazy, Jobs says. They have all this potential to do interesting things but they just refuse to do it. They don’t do anything with the approaches that Apple is taking, like Carbon. Apple does not support Flash because it is so buggy, he says. Whenever a Mac crashes more often than not it’s because of Flash. No one will be using Flash, he says. The world is moving to HTML5.




I've been supporting Adobe products for friends since before Windows 2.0 (Adobe Illustrator was the first, I think it came with a special version of Windows that was 1.2 or something).

My experience has been that Adobe products are very powerful and work well when nothing is changing and you learn where not to step... but are generally one of the most fragile pieces of software on any given system. That was true in 1989, and it was true when I upgraded to Vista.

My brother in law and sisters got an IPad. They like it... but quickly observed that like an IPhone, it does NOT "share" well. That's fine on an IPhone, which is a very personal device. But an IPad is more of a "Kitchen Counter" or "Coffee Table" platform.

I think that'll be the one big drawback for me. For $400, I would probably go buy one the next time one of the kids pours orange juice down the Dell laptop in the kitchen. It is compelling at that price point.

But it is a terrible deal at $1200... if I had to get one for me, one for my wife, and one for the the kids to fight over... all because it doesn't have more then one "user account" on it that you can sign into.

Apple has a sound and solid architecture though... so they ought to be able to add that sort of thing in future versions fairly easily if they so choose.
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Danger_dave
Posted on Monday, April 05, 2010 - 02:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Me like flash

http://davidcohen.co.nz/grunge
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Pwnzor
Posted on Monday, April 05, 2010 - 05:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The apology is appreciated but unnecessary.

I spend a lot of time cleaning up systems where click-happy people thought it was a good idea to open every attachment and watch every forwarded video clip.

No matter how many times I tell them, they just keep on doing it. I tell them windows security is like a screen door. How strong of a screen depends on the user, or "chair to keyboard interface" as I like to call it.

I'll start listening to jobs' opinion about who will be using what after his company gets above a 10% share of the pc market. I doubt flash will be disappearing any time soon.
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Hootowl
Posted on Monday, April 05, 2010 - 05:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I still hate flash.

Not so much flash, but Adobe in general. Installing a product doesn't mean I want it to be the center of my computing universe. Adobe seems to think that I do.
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Froggy
Posted on Monday, April 05, 2010 - 05:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I hate flash as much as anybody else due to its various issues, but I shouldn't be forced being not able to run it. Hell, my 4 year old Nokia internet tablet supports Flash, despite how slow and how often it crashes.
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Hootowl
Posted on Monday, April 05, 2010 - 06:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The iPad/iPod could support flash easily. Apple is making a political statement about defacto standards. Apple wants the Internet to be standards based, like HTML5, and not proprietary like Flash, ubiquitous as it may be.
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Alchemy
Posted on Monday, April 05, 2010 - 08:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Flash is fine as long as it is NEVER associated with web pages. Bad idea on web pages. It is not a standard and makes a web page experience unpredictable. If you spend money to get the widest possible exposure to your business it is not very smart to make your page with features that by their nature limit your pages exposure.

Flash is loved by the marketing folks who like the blinking lights and shiny things it makes so well.

Just my opinion.
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