| Author | Message | ||
     Just_ziptab |
Got Suzie Q out today(Jay Hawleys S1). Cold blooded as all get out,but runs like a raped ape. I suspected it still had an M6 chain adjuster,as it is quite noisy. Pulled her in to the basement to change fluids and drop the primary cover. Yep,M6 adjuster.....not impressed. I already have the upgraded adjuster set up from American Sport Bike..so no problem. Question. Is the clutch shell supposed to have a little play in it's bearing? I can tip it in and out a bit and that doesn't seem right to me. Thinking I better fix it now if that is a problem. | ||
| Natexlh1000 |
As one who has seen this bike in person, it's great to hear that it's in the correct hands. I can't be of much use with regards to the clutch possible issue since I only went into my X1 clutch the one time to change the plates. I didn't notice any play but wasn't looking for any either. | ||
| Joshinga |
if you are asking does the whole basket move then yes there is a small amount of play. but nothing crazy that would cause the primary chain to bind. | ||
| Just_ziptab |
Here is where I get the movement(tipping in and out). About 1/16th of an inch.  Natexlh1000, Thanks for the props. (Message edited by just_ziptab on April 06, 2010) | ||
| Buellish |
I have 95,600 miles on an M6 adjuster installed at 1000 miles.I put 50,000 on one installed on my FLH. | ||
| Joshinga |
define "tipping in and out" Is is the movement straight in and out? or is it in all directions? | ||
| Bluzm2 |
Zip, that is a great bike. Kudo for dumping the M6, I pulled one a couple of weeks ago from a friends S2, it was a mess.. 4th one I've seen like it. I just checked my clutch hub on my M2, I don't have any play at all. | ||
| Ducxl |
I can tip it in and out a bit and that doesn't seem right to me. I think it's ok.The stupid MOCO didn't consider that tipping on the first generation EVO XL when they spun it(the basket) around a STATOR.Yeah...That little flexing caused many a shorted stator. It should be ok.Unless you really WANT to get in there and replace the bearing and STILL have play/rocking/tipping I once had a guy talk me into welding a starter ring just like the one in the picture because he felt the gear was only pressed on and they're prone to walking off.After,those teeth on the gear at every weld went soft.Within 6000 miles it was useless (Message edited by ducxl on April 06, 2010) | ||
| Just_ziptab |
Thanks guys! Neart nil for end play(linear in and out),just the....... what I would call "wobble"....but then,I'm TOO fussy. I'll go with Greg and leave it alone. Jay went completely thru the bike and it only has about 5,000 miles on "the build". I'll post some pictures later, on how the M-6 is wearing out and why. Can't imagine one going 95K,but there are always exceptions. Every starter ring I have ever replaced or messed with(manual tranny truck,heavy truck/auto) was heat shrinked onto the flywheel. Seems "weak",but it certainly works and kinda fun to replace one and just see how well it does shrink down on the flywheel. | ||
| Just_ziptab |
Here is the M-6 spring loaded shoe adjuster. Note that the "U" bracket simply sits on the bolt and is not attached solid.It's captured,but just floats there.  Now note that it sat there, skewed a bit,per the chain wear marks.  Look at the wear marks on the short leg of the "U" bracket. It actually pulled metal over the top edge. The spring has also dug into the bracket.  Here is the wear on the long leg of the "U" bracket. Also see the pulled metal on the short leg  The corner of the shoe is worn down from rubbing on the Stator housing!  And this is why I tore it down. I heard a noise that I have never heard before,but I knew what it was ....just from previous comments that I have heard over the years on the forums. Under power,the top run of the chain is loaded,allowing the bottom run to sag. The spring loaded adjuster shoe takes up this slack and works fine. What happens when you unload the top run of the chain? (shifting or coasting)The bottom run goes taught and the top run is loose....and flings outward,rubbing on the upper part of the cover housing. Nice! No way around that with the spring unable to bear the load of coasting. At idle,that chain is slapping around like two clowns in a circus.  I'm not going to say the chain isn't stretched a bit.......which could cause these problems with the M6,but it's tight on the clutch drum and the teeth are like new. The upgraded stock Buell adjuster from American Sport Bike will cure all of this. Damn,I forgot to get a sealed lock nut for the adjuster stud!  Next is to go thru the carb/intake seals. It has sat a long time and "just ain't right" at idle......  | ||
| Rex |
She is loving her time at the DR's office. Nothing like getting your teeth cleaned. wow, quite a few nicks in the case from the primary chain, huh? REX | ||
| Natexlh1000 |
Those nicks in the primary aren't too bad. I have nicks almost that bad in my X1 simply due to my own "maintainance". I was scared of running it too tight. Now I'm not so scared but my cover is scarred  | ||
| Just_ziptab |
Those nicks are pretty much superficial and won't hurt a thing,specially since they are on the inside and the residue has been washed out........ . (Message edited by just_ziptab on April 07, 2010) |
