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Micheal
Posted on Thursday, April 01, 2010 - 07:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Ok if im doing a burn out I start in 2nd gear so if im drag racing a bike should I start off in 2nd or 1st?
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99buellx1
Posted on Thursday, April 01, 2010 - 07:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

As far as technique, what connection would drag racing have to doing a burnout?
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Midknyte
Posted on Thursday, April 01, 2010 - 08:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Screw it up and he'll be dragging. Dragging parts...
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Hex
Posted on Thursday, April 01, 2010 - 10:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

If I were drag racing you, I'd suggest you start off in 2nd.
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Ratbuell
Posted on Friday, April 02, 2010 - 12:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

You do a burnout in 2nd to get speed at the tire (more 'burn' in the 'burnout').

For a race, start in first. *Feather* the clutch or you'll be on your back after the bike throws you over the license plate.

Once you're off the clutch, don't touch it again until after you hit the traps. Keep your toe pressed against the underside of the shifter. Momentarily twitch off the throttle when it's time to shift, the change in drivetrain load will let your toe shift the bike. Get back on the throttle, drop you toe to "reload" the shifter, then press up again and repeat.
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No_rice
Posted on Friday, April 02, 2010 - 12:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

i dont start in second for a burn out, i start in first and just shift through the gears.
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Micheal
Posted on Friday, April 02, 2010 - 03:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

last question, do you warm up the tire ie. pre burnout before the take off or just go up with a cold tire so chance are you dont wheelie out?
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Fast1075
Posted on Friday, April 02, 2010 - 06:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

If you are going to drag race a streetbike...find someone locally that will take you under his (or her) wing and go to the track and teach you. It is impossible to teach the nuances of dragging a fast stock wheelbase street bike on the internet....other than the most basic stuff....such as clutch managment is the hard part...and never, ever put a street tire in the water box...burnouts are a no-no unless you are using a drag rated tire like the Shinko 003 or the Mickey Thompson DOT tire...a couple of try hops is all you need...burnouts on most street tires only make smoke, kill the tire and actually cause it to have LESS traction.

Bottom line...find some non-squid serious sportsman racer to show you the ropes...if you lived in Central Florida, I would help...I already have a "student" for this weekend.

Oh...on the burnout thing...2nd gear should work ok....I used to do the burnout in 5th gear...but thats another story....remind me to tell you about it one day ; )

(Message edited by fast1075 on April 02, 2010)
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Glitch
Posted on Friday, April 02, 2010 - 06:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)















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Bgreiner
Posted on Friday, April 02, 2010 - 07:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Pictures speak louder than words!
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Fast1075
Posted on Friday, April 02, 2010 - 07:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

If I had a dollar for every time I've seen that happen (or had it happen to me).....
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Crackhead
Posted on Friday, April 02, 2010 - 08:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I was wondering how you get access for replacing the kick stand.
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Natexlh1000
Posted on Friday, April 02, 2010 - 08:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I read somewhere here that the sequence of photos shown above are a H-D tech that took a demo bike out for a spin.
I wonder if he lost his job over that?
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Glitch
Posted on Friday, April 02, 2010 - 08:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Something like that.
I believe Spidey was working at the dealership at the time.
If he wasn't, he still knows the story behind the pics.
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Boogiman1981
Posted on Friday, April 02, 2010 - 09:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

so ummm not like that? ok i'll know for next time
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Ourdee
Posted on Friday, April 02, 2010 - 11:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

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Johntman
Posted on Friday, April 02, 2010 - 11:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Yeah the one time I went to the drag strip I got in trouble for doing a burnout. Didn't know I wasn't supposed to... the street cars were, so I did too.
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Spiderman
Posted on Friday, April 02, 2010 - 08:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I believe Spidey was working at the dealership at the time.

You are correct that was a porter from American Harley.

That was our second XB, so I threw a race kit on it as we had two more coming and figured that it would be one awesome Demo bike!

So that porter was a friend of the Owners son, a real trouble maker, the porter that is.

Well one Wednesday, a test an tune at that drag strip, I went to grab said XB to have a demo ride.

OK where are the keys?

Go up to the owners son. Hey where are the keys to the XB? Where is the XB?

He didn't know, no one knew.

OK let's wait it out maybe another sales person took it out or is out on a demo and another sales is out with said person....

So while we all asked around we get a call to come into the service dept office.

We head back and get the bad news.

Porter McDumbass took the keys, a dealer tag and headed to Milan with the XB. Paid his 20 bucks to run the test and tune session without asking or telling anyone. Did two runs then his 3rd run the above happened.

He thought he could go, do some runs and come back before anyone found out.
SO he comes back in the truck with our driver head hung low.

He got his assed chewed by the owner and to save his job he paid for all damage to the bike.
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Scott_in_nh
Posted on Saturday, April 03, 2010 - 08:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

1st gear alone is fine for the burnout, you do not have enough power to need to put a lot of heat in the tire - it is more to "clean" the tire, a dry hop works just as well but isn't as much fun.

That said, your 1st time I would ride around the water and skip the burnout if you are not used to doing them.

I strongly recommend that you buy a front end strap.

http://www.pingelonline.com/front_end_lowering_str ap.htm

It will make the bike easier to launch, less likely to wheelie and is good for 2 tenths.

Don't worry about cutting a great light your 1st time, concentrate on the launch.

Here's the important part - treat both the clutch and the throttle like rheostats - not like switches!

You need to come in with the throttle as you slip the clutch.

As this is going on you need to get your feet on the pegs because you need 2nd gear real soon!

shift at 6200-6300, no need to go to redline - bump the rev limiter and you have killed any chance of a good number.

Use the clutch for your shifts as you would on the road, but eventually you will want to shift without the clutch by quickly easing off on the throttle, snicking the next gear and back on the throttle.

Have fun, it is addictive because you will convince yourself that you will do better on the next run and the next and the next.....

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