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     Reindog |
First, the Obama administration called servicemen returning from Iraq "terrorists". Now, our soldiers can't display the US flag on their uniforms as they provide money and assistance to this failed nation. There are no bounds for the shame that Obama harbors for the United States. Forbidden US flag The Leftist media has somehow overlooked this important story. (Message edited by reindog on March 19, 2010) | ||
| Hootowl |
They aren't flying the flag at the base. The soldiers ARE wearing the flag on their uniform. It is part of their uniform, that they would be out of uniform if they weren't. The Haitians know who the folks helping them are. Not flying the US flag over a US military base is complete and utter BS, but the O man hasn't gone so far as to alter the uniform of the service members there. Are we an occupying force in Germany, Japan, South Korea, or anywhere else we have troops stationed? No. We still fly our flag. Perhaps he's trying to avoid another apology tour? | ||
| Swordsman |
I generally refrain from such language, but Obama is a serious ••••••••• I wonder how many people regret voting for him? ~SM | ||
| Gentleman_jon |
Look let's be frank. Obama, and his crowd of anti-American Leftists believe that the United States is the greatest force for evil in the world. Obama pledged to change the country, he just lied about where he wanted to go. His mentors, Saul Alinsky, Frank Douglas, Rev. Wright, Louis Farrakahn, Cass R. Sunstein, and Van Jones, on the other hand, have been much more forthcoming. We gotta get rid of these people as soon as possible. As another Senator from Illinois noted, "You can't fool all of the people all of the time". Looks like that time has finally arrived. Doesn't it.  | ||
| Bcordb3 |
This was taken from a very old book. Psalm 109 8-10 8 May his days be few; may another take his place of leadership. 9 May his children be fatherless and his wife a widow. 10 May his children be wandering beggars; may they be driven [d] from their ruined homes. very strong words, I don't wish any harm to anyone or their family. | ||
| Ourdee |
I wonder how many people regret voting for him? My regret is that other people voted for him. | ||
| Crackhead |
WTF!!!! I can see not flying it at the airport and other Haiti installations, BUT the Flag needs to fly tall and proud on the United States base/ compound. (Message edited by crackhead on March 19, 2010) | ||
| Drkside79 |
Not the first time its happened yet you all crucify the man. The decision is not unprecedented, noted Joe Davis, spokesman for the Veterans of Foreign Wars, who says he is not bothered by the flag's absence. During the Gulf War in 1991, U.S. forces took control of the main airport in Kuwait and briefly flew the American flag over their installation, Davis said, but higher-ups ordered it taken down to avoid an impression that U.S. forces were conquerors. The missing American colors at Port-au-Prince airport were no problem to Don Hollenbaugh, a former Army Delta Force operator who received the Distinguished Service Cross for actions in Fallujah, Iraq, in 2004. "Everybody in the world knows the U.S. is there," Hollenbaugh said. "So by not flying the flag, we're not changing anyone's mind about anything." | ||
| Xb9er |
Wow, whats next your not allowed to have your flag on while in the US? This whole kindler gentler Army/US thing is really making me mad | ||
| Reindog |
Stand down, Drkside. Why do you automatically bad mouth your country and make excuses for a leader who is ashamed of his own country? It is so ingrained in you that you are unaware that you are even doing it. Gulf War I was a WAR where we had to hold a coalition together with sand people who hate us. Haiti is the US GIVING money and aid to a failed nation. Our flag must fly high for all to see and be proud of. I am proud of my country. Why aren't you? | ||
| Xb12xmike |
Yea Xb9r,... We already know we are in the USA. Why U need a flag in front of your home?!?!? (sarcasm-1) Everybody in the world know this is the USA...Why do we need to display the flag"?!?!? (sarcasm-2) IDIOTS Are the soldiers still wearing flag patches on their uniforms in Haiti? | ||
| Drkside79 |
# 1 I did not bad mouth my country. #2 Who are you to insert words in my mouth or thought in my head. I love my flag my serviceman and all they represent. I however unlike many here am not about to slander our president at every turn and for every reason. Also, to my knowledge we only fly our flag on neutral or US soil. Unless we are invading. Overseas Army bases are US Soil and are legal recognized by the country surrounding them. Now my personal opinion is that I see nothing wrong with us flying our flag in Haiti. I also highly doubt Obama just woke up and decided he didn't like the flag and therefore we won't fly it. Once again thank you for condemning me as un-American and once again reaffirming my beliefs on conservatives. | ||
| Drkside79 |
Are the soldiers still wearing flag patches on their uniforms in Haiti? Yes | ||
| Xb12xmike |
Good. But if we are taking down our high flying flags,...then every other country should as well. Or just leave it alone. BTW: Obama IS a douchebag. | ||
| Thesmaz |
I'm not taking sides on this one but I'm sure it's the same line of thought when we took Baghdad. guys put the flag up all over town and were promptly told to take them down. This is also the policy/agreement at US bases in Spain, it's part of the Status of Forces Agreement. | ||
| Buell2001b |
Darkside enjoy kissing up to your liberal president. soon we will get a replacement for him. elections are not far. | ||
| Whatever |
They only occasionally fly the flag at the US Army Installation I am working at. Some days it is up there and other days it is not. I don't take this with any special meaning. There are no signs indicating the name of the installation either that are visible from the road. However, I just think the security guards are perhaps lazy if you ask me and don't bother putting it up and taking it down every day. There are two large Army tanks sitting in front of our building facing the main highway tho. Maybe Vietnam era. That makes it pretty clear I think who is there. There is nothing secret on site anymore, and they have a "full public disclosure policy" set in place since 1998 I think, when the property was declated excess by DOD. The area is unsafe around the structures that have not been maintained for roughly 30 years. We have special OSHA training and physical monitoring required by law to be anywhere outside of the administrative offices. The armed guards will take the public off site and hand them over to the County Sheriff and give them a $265 dollar fine if they are caught trespassing. I work there under a contractor to the Army and they have made it very clear you only have permission for the specific area you are entering. During demolition operations, you have to have specific permission to go into that area. If you do not obey the first time you mess up you are fired. Also, kind of funny, I heard that some of the training runs for the pilots out of Madison Truax field involve landing on the installation and a few workers have unexpectedly had the crap scared out of them when they turn around to see what the noise is. Even I think it isn't right to not fly the flag if we have service men and women living there. It might be something to do with security more so than image tho. Don't believe everything I read in the media or see on the internet myself.  (Message edited by Whatever on March 19, 2010) | ||
| Hootowl |
You must not be on a military base. If you were, US service members (not hired security guards) would raise and lower the flag every morning and evening, music would be broadcast across the base, and all vehicular and foot traffic would stop until the twice daily colors ceremony was finished. Your facility might be owned by the Army, but if it were a base, there would be soldiers on it performing that ceremony daily. | ||
| Whatever |
Nope. Not a military base. Which is fine with me... it already is enough pressure with the three Army people in our building... that is enough for me... | ||
| Hootowl |
I'm sorry you have such a dim view of the military. | ||
| Whatever |
No I do not, sir... not at all... it is a great job I have and I am sooo so happy to be doing something with the feds... the thing is a client relations situation. Let us say that I contracted for Ford Motor Company... and they put me in thier building with thier staff down the hall that can walk by my office, hear my phone calls and see my computer screen, not to mention how I dress and if I were emotional that day or not... you have to be on your toes... that is my only point... I am proud to be an Army contractor... best gig I have had yet by far! | ||
| Hootowl |
That's good. I guess if I worked for the Army, I would expect some oversight, or at least some interaction daily. | ||
| Whatever |
On Wednesday one of the Army people stuck his head in my office and yelled "Are you done with that report yet???" It got approved on Tuesday morning. I barked back at him, "I sure do. I finished it last night. Are you ready to review it???" The scheduled due date is July 31st and I have full time hours to get it done. Too too funny... (Message edited by Whatever on March 19, 2010) | ||
| Cityxslicker |
The flag has been on velcro since Bosnia. When I was there, there were no name tags, unit designators, rank insignia or flags on the BDU's. Everyone was sure you were American.... they didnt know what the hell to do with me, because I spoke Russian and had a Russian accent; they were sure I was a local on contract & protected.... same thing in the Stans back in 2004-6. Sanitized uniforms; if you were in uniform at all. Now what OBama is doing is totally different, not out of security, or opsec; but out of pure apology for America being America. Flying the new flag in my yard since the BailOuts.  | ||
| Pwnzor |
I'm getting into this a bit late, but when did it become slander to point out the facts in a situation?} Main Entry: slander Function: noun Etymology: Middle English sclaundre, slaundre, from Anglo-French esclandre, alteration of escandle, from Late Latin scandalum stumbling block, offense — more at scandal Date: 14th century 1 : the utterance of false charges or misrepresentations which defame and damage another's reputation 2 : a false and defamatory oral statement about a person — compare libel | ||
| Hootowl |
Yeah, the flag on the uniform thing is relatively new (Gulf War) as is the name embroidered on tape stuck on the front of the camos. Still, it is now part of the uniform. Well, new for Marines, us squids have been writing our names on our underwear for a long time! (Navy squid, not biker squid) | ||
| Nevrenuf |
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| Dalton_gang |
"Now what OBama is doing is totally different, not out of security, or opsec; but out of pure apology for America being America." I agree. I also think that our commander in chief needs to grow some balls or something. | ||
| Cityxslicker |
He would rather cup his balls during the National Anthem than grow a pair | ||
| Whatever |
I am sorry, but that woman on the far right looks like a dwarf to me... or maybe she is a hobbit? |
