| Author | Message | ||
     Froggy |
I just got my annual bill from the DMV today to renew my bikes. They jacked it up 203% from $14 per year per bike to $42.50. It now costs more to register a single motorcycle than it does to register a single car. The rates for cars varies by weight, but for example your run of the mill Civic would be $48.50 for TWO years. The average motorcycle gets ridden less than 20% as much as the average car, so why do we have to pay more than cars? Thank you Governor Patterson! Who voted you in? Oh wait, nobody! I will be sure to include a nice letter with my $170 payment. Lets not even get into the costs with insurance and inspections! I know this is still lower than California, which seems to tax $10 per CC of displacement, but a 203% increase is absurd. | ||
| Mikexlr650 |
wait till you buy a house frog, ny is a special place. they are literally stealing our homes. | ||
| Johnnymceldoo |
Riding is a luxury. Besides, its good your helping to spread the wealth around. | ||
| Fahren |
Patterson is blind to the wishes of bikers. No, wait - my bad - he's just blind. | ||
| Doon |
Really? Last year my reg with Custom Plate was $29.00? this year it is $36.25.. And that is NYS... | ||
| Bartimus |
Aw, poor Froggy! Come down to Arizona where it costs $240 to register a 2005 Honda ST1300! I registered the rest of my bikes in New Mexico since I own property over there. You think your fees are expensive, HA! | ||
| B00stzx3 |
NYC also has one if the highest motorcycle theft rates! Although lane splitting through all that backup wouldn't be too bad... | ||
| Danger_dave |
It's about $US500 to keep a bike on the road here. That includes about $320 compulsory 'No fault' personal injury insurance. The insurance component just went up +/- 200% | ||
| 86129squids |
Jackals. Reminds me that I've not yet joined the AMA or some effective group committed to defending our rights to ride. I know the AMA has a spotty past as far as their efficacy, but with Erik on the board, heck, I really feel like I should join. Good thread- who's got the good ideas as to how we should combat this trend? (This also makes Iman's "Squid" thread even more relevant...) | ||
| Tbolt98 |
really... I just got my NY Reg. renewals and they were each $17.50 | ||
| Jaimec |
My club has been working with the AMA on this. This ONLY applies to down state (NYC Metro area) owners. The additional money is to shore up the NYC Mass Transit system. The extra fee WILL be on your car registrations too. With my vanity plate, I'm paying $61.25 per motorcycle. Thank GOD I paid for my car for two years last year before this highway robbery was put into place. I've already complained to my legislative representatives, and one of my other club members is working with the AMA on this. He is working with Imre F. Szauter, the AMA's Government Affairs Manager. If you want your voice to be added you can probably contact him through the AMA. Mr. Szauter has also made us aware of this website: http://www.mtataxpayerabuse.com Don't bitch on BadWeb... bitch where it'll count. | ||
| Greg_e |
WTF? I just paid mine and it was $17.50, inspections last fall were $6. How can they "tax" you guys more heavily than the rest of the state? That's never happened before. Make sure you guys down there in the high population area vote for someone better than our current "leader". | ||
| Xb1200rick |
hey, Georgia charges you by the value of the vehicle regardless of how many wheels. My bikes cost me about $150 each | ||
| Johnnymceldoo |
Good thread- who's got the good ideas as to how we should combat this trend? (This also makes Iman's "Squid" thread even more relevant...) Demand less from government(federal, state and local) and vote for the guy who wants the most liberty for you and your family. Hold them accountable for the money you give them. Funny how when e-check went away for most of ohians registration fees doubled. Iam sure there is a good explanation though and Iam sure any year now our fees will go down. | ||
| Fahren |
A two-year registration in Maryland costs $97, so it's pretty comparable. At least here the cost is the same state-wide, for DC and Baltimore areas as well as out here in the boonies. | ||
| Spiderman |
the best thing in Michigan is a motorcycle is not considered a motor vehicle until the bike Hits something and then that is only if the bike is at fault. (Message edited by spiderman on March 10, 2010) | ||
| Teeps |
Cacklefornia is nicking me $145 for the Uly; up $20 from last year. But, I can split lanes, take that... | ||
| Saintly |
Mine all went from $14 to $42.50 also. (Orange county NY) "wait till you buy a house frog, ny is a special place. they are literally stealing our homes." That's no joke right there! I paid off my house in 2009, I now have no mortgage. However, my total taxes are $8600 annually. So I have to pay $717 every month in order to keep the house that I supposedly own! It's cheaper to rent when you figure the cost of maintenance/repairs. F**k NY, I want out so bad I can taste it. | ||
| Jramsey |
>>It's cheaper to rent when you figure the cost..... Ask the landlord and see if he agrees with that statement. | ||
| Treefrog |
Dang. Glad I live Upstate. There are people around here complaining because registrations went up $3.50 from last year. I am ready to retire and go back south. NY is the most taxed place I have ever lived in my 23 years of being in the Army. I hope you can work out a payment plan with the DMV Froggy. | ||
| Brumbear |
Just make sure you don't end up here!!!!!!!!!!!!! NY might be the armpit of the world but NJ is just a bit lower and to the middle. Damn Saintly thats one hell of a nut even for NY how much property? I am at $6200 here but I got 78' across by 118' deep | ||
| Jaimec |
Here in it's entirety is the E-Mail my club member received from the AMA on this matter: Dear Mr. Lovdahl: Thank you for calling on March 8 to share your frustration with the imposition of the metropolitan commuter transportation district supplemental registration fee. The new $25.00 annual fee per registered vehicle, imposed only on those residents living in the area served by the MTA, more than doubles the registration fees each year for vehicle owners. The enabling legislation, Assembly Bill 8180, was introduced and passed by both the Assembly and the Senate on May 6, 2009. The governor signed it on May 7, 2009 allowing zero time for public input on the impact of the new fee. The bill created a new Article (17-C) in the VAT (Vehicle & Traffic) Rules. Sections 499 through 499-d established the fee and how it would be distributed. I've attached a PDF file containing information on the new article and the background on the enabling legislation. What all New York residents should find offensive is the manner in which the fee was implemented - in less than 48 hours, residents in the MTA service area got hit with a $25.00 annual fee per vehicle registration, and had zero chance for input into the process. The new fee does not discriminate against motorcycle owners, as all vehicle owners in the MTA service area are affected by the surcharge. I encourage you to contact your state senator and assembly member not only to protest the fee but also the manner in which it was implemented. If you need contact information for your elected officials, visit our Issues and Legislation website area at http://www.americanmotorcyclist.com/legisltn/rapid response.asp and enter your Zip +4 code into the box provided in the upper-right corner of the page. At least one lawsuit has already been filed against the supplemental registration fee and other parts of Assembly Bill 8180. Visit the MTA Taxpayer Abuse website at http://www.mtataxpayerabuse.com and click on the "MTA Tax Lawsuit" link along the top of the page. The AMA does not endorse this website, its owners or the lawsuit; I'm only providing this information as background on the MTA supplemental registration fee. Thanks again for your call and for your many years of membership support. Sincerely, Mr. Imre F. Szauter Government Affairs Manager American Motorcyclist Association 13515 Yarmouth Drive Pickerington, OH 43147-8214 1 (800) AMA-JOIN 1 (614) 856-1900, ext. 1125 | ||
| Jaimec |
I used the "Rapid Response" link provided by the AMA (in the E-Mail above) and wrote to my State Senator (Kemp Hannon) and my Assemblyman (Charles Lavine). I have yet to hear from Senator Hannon, but I received a response almost immediately from Assemblyman Lavine. Here is his response in it's entirety: Thanks for the email although this issue is a little more troubling that you may realize. The ostensible reason for fee increases was to pay to keep the Long Island Railroad and other Transportation Authority assets running. We all know how important the LIRR is to our Nassau economy and did not want it to fail, which would have caused the value of our suburban homes to drop even more than they did because of the recession. The State, to keep itself solvent, then took almost $150 million of the funds raised for the LIRR and the MTA. I share your disgust for the nickle and dime way the State has been trying to get enough revenue to pay for our schools, hospitals and essential services, and can tell you that I will do my best to see to it that such methods are not relied upon in the future. In the meantime, if you have any ideas on how we fill a $9 billion hole in our upcoming budget, I would appreciate your thoughts. Sincerely, C. Lavine | ||
| Froggy |
Jamie, thank you for all that, I got to do some more reading and shoot off some letters. I wonder if this will disappear after they get 6 million registrations to pay that $150M. Moving to Suches is looking better by the day! | ||
| Mikexlr650 |
we have a saying in ny, "would the last person to leave please turn off the lights"... ny will eventually be populated only by the wealthy and the welfare, they can have it! wonder who will maintain the place for them? the taxes on my house are 50% more than the house costs! imagine adding 150% to your monthly mortgage and getting NOTHING in return for it. thank you NY. when the banks decide to LOAN us back our money that our treasonous gov't FREAKIN GAVE TO THEM so us little people can start buying homes again i will be leaving ny as well. | ||
| Just_ziptab |
IF everybody in NY got together and refused to pay property tax......wouldn't that be something to behold. I pay $1,800.00 a year for the new shack I'm building. About 4,500 sq feet of total floor space on a 600'x100' lot. Guess I shouldn't complain | ||
| Mikexlr650 |
i pay $16,000.00yr on a 1,600sqft house... my friends house is 4,500sqft about 2 miles from mine, he pay's 26,000.00yr(he is a doctor and say's there is no way he is staying in ny much longer, can't make ends meet!) no he doesn't drive a merc and live in opulence, in fact he has a nissan and the house is 15yrs old. i still can't understand what they do with the money. if they are taxing us so heavily why do they not have enough. it appears that the "system" may have lost it's efficiency as the population rose? is the infrastructure just too old? | ||
| Bikertrash05 |
NY is Kalifornia on the east coast. They want to outlaw salt now. http://www.myfoxny.com/dpp/news/local_news/new_yor k_state/chefs-call-proposed-new-york-salt-ban-absu rd-20100310-akd Oh, and bikes are $23 in WI. | ||
| Court |
Toss in New York City "Earnings Tax" on top of all the others . . . | ||
| Tom_b |
"i pay $16,000.00yr on a 1,600sqft house" That is insane high taxes. I don't feel so bad with my $1,200.oo a year taxes on a 1200 sqft with full finished basement a 2 car garage on a big city lot |
