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Reindog
Posted on Wednesday, March 03, 2010 - 01:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

"Marine," the colonel says. "What is that on your body armour?"
"Sir?"
"That...thing."
"You mean this button, sir?"
"What is it?" the colonel says.
"A peace symbol, sir."
"Where did you get it?"
Joker thinks for a couple of seconds. "A liberal gave it to me, sir," Joker says, keeping a serious face.
The colonel jabs Joker's button with a forefinger and giver him a fairly decent Polished Glare. His blue eyes sparkle. "That's right, son, act innocent. But I know what that button means."
"Yes, sir!
"It's a ban-the-bomb propaganda button.
Admit it!"
"What is that you've got written on your helmet?"
"Born To Kill?"
"You've written 'Born to Kill' on your helmet."
"Yes, sir."
Why did you do that?"
"I don't know, sir. Everyone writes things on their helmets."
"You write 'Born to Kill' on your helmet and you wear a peace button. What is that supposed to be, some kind of sick joke?"
"No, sir."
"Well, what is it supposed to mean?"
"I don't know, sir."
"Answer that question, corporal, or you'll be standing tall before the man."
"Well, sir," Joker says with exaggerated thoughtfulness, "I suppose...I was trying to suggest something about the duality of man."
"The what?"
"The dual nature of man?... You know, sir, the Jungian thing about aggression and xenophobia on one hand, and altruism and cooperation on the other?"
There is a fairly considerable mouth-breathing pause from the colonel.
"Whose side are you on, son?"
"Our side, sir."
"MARINE!"
"Yes, sir."
"Don't you love your country?"
"Yes, I do, sir."
"Then how about getting with the program? Why don't you jump on the team and come in for the big win?"
Joker still manages to keep a straight face.
"I'm certainly ready to do that, sir."
"Confess corporal, confess that you want peace."
"I confess, sir."
The colonel leans closer and lowers his voice, "Son, we've all got to keep our heads until this peace craze blows over."
Joker makes a serious face to consider the full implications of this statement. "Yes, sir."
The poge colonel tries to think of something more inspiring to say, but he hasn't got it. So he says: "You can't wear that button, Marine.
It's against regulations. Remove it immediately."
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Kenm123t
Posted on Wednesday, March 03, 2010 - 01:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The goal of a military is not to HAVE to fight. Peace is the best course but do not be stupid about how you obtain it.
A war stops when all the bad guys are dead. if not they will follow you home
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Hex
Posted on Wednesday, March 03, 2010 - 02:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

A war stops when all the bad guys are dead. if not they will follow you home
Just like 911? So WTF were we thinking when we thought our war by proxy was over?
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Sifo
Posted on Wednesday, March 03, 2010 - 02:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

So Hex, why are you going to call the Police to be the proxy for you when a burglar breaks in?
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Reindog
Posted on Wednesday, March 03, 2010 - 03:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

So WTF were we thinking when we thought our war by proxy was over?

I presume you are referring to the proxy war fought by the Mujahideen against the Soviet Union?

America became complacent about terrorism after the fall of the Soviet Union and Gulf War I. During the 90's, the Terrorists were nibbling at us with WTC I, USS Cole, embassy bombings, LAX planned attack, etc. Jaime Gorelick, under President Clinton, assisted the Terrorists by building a wall preventing the CIA/FBI from coordinating. President Clinton could have apprehended OBL but chose not to. We emboldened the Terrorists step by step because we lost our vigilance.

America is by nature lazy until it is attacked frontally.
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Aesquire
Posted on Wednesday, March 03, 2010 - 07:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0118715/

Great Movie, and I think the real reason Jeff Bridges will get the Oscar.

I think Carbonbigfoot ( GREAT name btw ) has Sharia law....wrong.

There are 3 clases of people under Sharia law.

Those in submission to the will of Allah. ( muslims )

Non muslims who pay a tax or Jizya to remain in muslim lands, and have limited rights.

Slaves. ( not muslims, but those who have not, or will not pay the tax, may be sold as slaves. Often the daughters of those who cannot pay are taken, until next time. )

Remember "Roots"? The bit where the slavers are chasing KK is bs. The slave traders bought their slaves from the arab slavers, and you still can, since they are still in business. The arab slavers buy them from other tribes who capture them. Still.

So, no, you don't get killed if you are not muslim, unless you refuse to submit to the law.

Now, quit picking on the pacifists. Please. Or they will call someone to stop the bullying.

If you want to believe that 9/11 is "America's fault" you have some merit. (it's bogus merit, but a virus of truth is there ) Osama himself said he started the 9/11 attack because the Admin, before Bush's showed cowardice and foolishness, and he thought he could get away with it, since there is a streak of American fools who just can't stand war. The nature of American News is that they grow tired fast of fighting, and have not supported the military for decades.

Still waiting for an answer, for us or against us? ( or, in complex terms, deny or give support & protection to mass murderers fighting a religious war against modern civilization? )

(Message edited by aesquire on March 03, 2010)
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Sifo
Posted on Wednesday, March 03, 2010 - 07:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Still waiting for an answer, for us or against us?

That answer seems self-evident at this point.
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Aesquire
Posted on Wednesday, March 03, 2010 - 07:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

yah, but if I ask a lefty embarrassing questions, he lies, changes the subject, gets hostile, calls people names, then sulks for a while. Works every time. It's part of the meme.
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Gregtonn
Posted on Wednesday, March 03, 2010 - 09:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

slander-
1 : the utterance of false charges or misrepresentations which defame and damage another's reputation


Absolutely nothing slanderous in my statement.

If the two statements he made are true, it is a valid assumption.
As much as it may have enraged you there has yet to be a response by the originator of those statements.
That is of course, unless you are his proxy.

G
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Wednesday, March 03, 2010 - 09:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'm sorry I ever said the word proxy.

Egad. : |
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Reindog
Posted on Wednesday, March 03, 2010 - 09:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

One way to get America out of its funk---

Putting Ronald Reagan on the $50 bill as a symbol of gratitude and remembrance for his great presidency!
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Reindog
Posted on Wednesday, March 03, 2010 - 11:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hex,

"The Big Lebowski" is available for Instant Streaming on Netflix right now. If you have a subscription, check it out ASAP. Let us know what you think. The Dude abides.
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Hex
Posted on Wednesday, March 03, 2010 - 11:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

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Reindog
Posted on Wednesday, March 03, 2010 - 11:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Sam Elliot said that he didn't know what he was doing in the movie. Joel and Ethan said they didn't know either!

Say friend, you got any of that East Texas sarsaparilla?

Hex, become an Achiever!

(Message edited by reindog on March 03, 2010)
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Reindog
Posted on Thursday, March 04, 2010 - 12:35 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Dude, this is hilarious, dude. Dude!

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Hex
Posted on Thursday, March 04, 2010 - 12:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Dude!
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Doerman
Posted on Thursday, March 04, 2010 - 12:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

While you are "dude-ing" along, I'll contribute the following idea:

To enjoy privilege without abuse, to have liberty without license, to possess power and steadfastly refuse to use it for self-aggrandizement — these are the marks of high civilization.
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Hootowl
Posted on Thursday, March 04, 2010 - 10:35 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The Dude version.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0EGwDEbTzoE

The forking short version.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gU2ZgaQ_H-Y
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Hex
Posted on Thursday, March 04, 2010 - 11:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

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Hex
Posted on Thursday, March 04, 2010 - 11:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The End!
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Reindog
Posted on Thursday, March 04, 2010 - 11:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Watching TBL will help America get out of it's funk.
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Hootowl
Posted on Thursday, March 04, 2010 - 11:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

If you have seen TBL, the short versions make complete sense.
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Swordsman
Posted on Thursday, March 04, 2010 - 11:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

weird, one of my FB friends posted up "The dude abides" last week, and I had no idea what he was talking about. I've never seen the movie. You've cleared it up. Odd coincidence, that.

~SM
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Blake
Posted on Thursday, March 04, 2010 - 12:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

"Who trained, supplied, armed, then abandoned Saddam and Osama? We did."

I missed the "Saddam" reference. In that you are grossly mistaken. The Soviets armed Iraq.

Less dope, more reality.

The elitist high-mindedness ends when you see friends jumping from the 92nd floor of a burning, soon-to-collapse building destroyed by mass-murdering islamists.

Wake up. Sober up.

http://www.amazon.com/Son-Hamas-Gripping-Political -Unthinkable/dp/1414333072
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Hex
Posted on Thursday, March 04, 2010 - 12:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

soviets armed iraq? interesting, that's not what Zietghiest the Movie says.

Our interest in Saddam did have something to do with Iran as well, shaw iirc.
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Hootowl
Posted on Thursday, March 04, 2010 - 01:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

What kind of tanks were we up against in 91? What kind of fighter aircraft? Helicopters? T72s, Hinds, and Migs. All Soviet. I don't recall us finding stashes of M16s and F15s buried in the desert.

The US did support Iraq in the Iran-Iraq war. Is it fair to say we armed them? I don't think so.
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Hex
Posted on Thursday, March 04, 2010 - 01:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Apparently you didn't get the old adage, all is fair in love and war.

I've seen plenty of examples unfairness right here in the midst of our passion--BadWeB.
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Reindog
Posted on Thursday, March 04, 2010 - 01:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I've seen plenty of examples unfairness right here in the midst of our passion--BadWeB.

Hex, D+ on your supposition without ANY supporting facts. If you claim there are examples, then you must name a few for your argument to have any credibility.

Don't make me force you to stay after school and don't fear the Blake Monster. He is tamer than the Smoke Monster on Lost. : )
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Hex
Posted on Thursday, March 04, 2010 - 03:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I agree to treat others as I would hope to be treated myself (be excellent to each other); I will only post commentary with a respectful demeanor just as if I am speaking face to face. In all cases I will avoid flame wars and hateful, malicious, derisive, insulting or divisive commentary. I understand that malicious derisive personal commentary in any form is entirely unwelcome on BadWeB.

I guess this fairness does not apply to the warden who owns this asylum.

Look above at his last post. I am neither drunk, stoned, or otherwise impaired, yet he continues to belittle my opinions by calling me such. Just search any of his inflammatory posts, and you will see the hypocrisy in his tyranny.
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Hex
Posted on Thursday, March 04, 2010 - 03:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Class dismissed.
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