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Aesquire
Posted on Friday, February 19, 2010 - 08:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

About your complaints re: Palin.

1. yep, Russia's right over the little bit of water up there. The "I can see russia from my house" line was SNL. Fey was very funny.

2. I don't see the problem there. Rahm's bro the political doctor was doing the health planning for Obama. He's real big on the whole death panel thing. Although, "death panel" is a right wing canard. It's really a "worth panel". If you are no longer a contributing member of the collective, why should we pay to keep you alive? That's his on record attitude...so I think that Palin is actually right on this one.

3. well, you got me there. that obviously disqualifies her, right? She sucks with Katie.

4,5,6. don't quite measure up to Biden, or Quail, but not awe inspiring.

7. She's absolutely right. I even heard the original comment, and the prediction that the leftist media would deliberately spin it so it was all Rush's fault. They did. They lie.

He does that all the time, Rush repeats a horribly racist or vicious thing that a Dem politician or news reader says, to mock their racism, to show that there is a double standard AND predicts that the.....What does he call it now? oh, yeah... "state controlled media" will lie that he is the originator of the remark. It's amazing how often it works.

The rest, well, ok, you've convinced me. I won't vote for anyone who makes such errors.

I'll also not vote for anyone who wants a tax paid health care system, under Federal control, as the only system, or who believes in taking from the poor & giving to the rich.... while claiming he's only going to tax the rich, while jacking my taxes, and supporting rich "fat cat bankers" who paid him & his buddies huge bribes. ( see Fannie Mae...etc. etc. )
But to be fair, I didn't vote for him before, and sure won't in the future.

Thank you, I see the light now.
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Madduck
Posted on Friday, February 19, 2010 - 08:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

And now for something completely different:

http://www.bostonherald.com/news/regional/view.bg? &articleid=1232943&format=&page=1&listingType=Loc

Yet another of the Obama backers coming out from under their rocks. Harvard education and everything. Students like her are the reasons that Harvard had to put up a wall around that fine institution to keep the citizenry from slaughtering their students. 300 years of tradition.
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Bjack
Posted on Sunday, February 21, 2010 - 09:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

It may have been mentioned elsewhere in this thread, but that "article" from the Sacramento Bee was actually a column written by conservative wonk George Will that ran in papers nationwide on Saturday.
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Diablo1
Posted on Sunday, February 21, 2010 - 09:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Yet another of the Obama backers coming out from under their rocks. Harvard education and everything. Students like her are the reasons that Harvard had to put up a wall around that fine institution to keep the citizenry from slaughtering their students. 300 years of tradition.

Now that is really retarded. She went to Harvard, so you are going to blame them for her actions? I'm sure she also went to a grocery store. Let's blame them too. }
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Aesquire
Posted on Sunday, February 21, 2010 - 10:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Obviously this murderer's love for Obama only tipped her further over the edge. The Cult of personality around the anointed one is corrosive to the soul, BUT it's her education as a selfish Beeotch that's to blame for all those deaths...........

Bush went to harvard, Obama went to Harvard, come to think of it, a lot of political criminals went to Harvard....

Let's ban ALL Harvard graduates from politics, right away! Obviously that school is a hot bed for criminals. Might as well be the "Mafia school for Lawyers & MBA's who want to steal lots of money from the "common" people"
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Sunday, February 21, 2010 - 04:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

You could see right over to Russia at altitude... but we were there to 'listen' over their shoulder, Damn I miss that berg at times.

Adak, Alaska, you couldnt see it from there, but you sure could hear a shi@tload ; )

and I do miss the fun that the Bear overflights caused.... ah memories.

Winter'd over 88-89, 89-90 Heady times indeed
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Too_tall_ss
Posted on Sunday, February 21, 2010 - 05:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Too bad Bush Senior and Junior went to Yale, but thanks for being informed before posting.
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Sunday, February 21, 2010 - 05:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

And got better grades. : D
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Sifo
Posted on Sunday, February 21, 2010 - 05:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Ted Kennedy got kicked out of Harvard for cheating on an exam.
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Swampy
Posted on Sunday, February 21, 2010 - 05:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Has anybody seen the latest on Ron Paul? He took the lead in a straw poll conference this weekend.
That deserves its own thread. I truly believe that he is too radical for mainstream Republicans, and has alot of ideas that the Democrats support, if he can secure the support from the Tea party and run as an independent he should do OK. BTW, he is not a scum sucking pettifogging lawyer(that alone is exactly the reason he doesn't stand a snowballs chance in Hell) If he runs as a Republican he won't make it in the primary because the Republican party would rather run a Republicratic candidate like McCain or Bob Dole.
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Sifo
Posted on Sunday, February 21, 2010 - 05:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

If I recall correctly didn't Ron Paul want to pull us out of Iraq and Afghanistan ASAP. Even BO has back stepped on that stuff now that he gets to see the intelligence reports.
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Sunday, February 21, 2010 - 05:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Ted Kennedy got kicked out of Harvard for cheating on an exam.


He also sucked at being a scuba buddy:

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Sifo
Posted on Sunday, February 21, 2010 - 05:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

He was always a great drinking buddy though. Just don't let him drive you home!
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Mmmi_grad
Posted on Sunday, February 21, 2010 - 07:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Palin speaks the things America wants to hear. Who knows how much she can make a diff. I hope she can, more power to that mama.
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Sunday, February 21, 2010 - 09:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Conversely, the expectations of the Obama Administration are unrealistic because the promises he made were even more so.


Providing a government solution that will solve everyone's problems is an impossibility.

Providing a solution whereby the individual is more empowered to solve their own problems is the most possible.


THIS is what Palin (and those on the right and the Tea Party Movement) are espousing.
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Aesquire
Posted on Monday, February 22, 2010 - 07:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Too tall, George H.W. Bush ( Bush the Elder ) didn't go to Harvard, but George W Bush ( Bush the younger ) had an MBA from Harvard.

Thanks for correcting my error.

Wiki says GWB was the only prez. with an MBA. I'll let you guys decide if that should be a bar to politics.....

But you have a point. No more politicians from any "ivy league" school. They are not worth the money.

btw, George the Younger had a "C" average. Public record. BHO has no Known grades. What's his average I wonder?
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99savage
Posted on Monday, February 22, 2010 - 08:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

What I like about Palin is that with wit & goodwill to all she brings out the really ugly side of the Left. When people see how really ugly the Left is they will avoid it like leprosy.

The Any bishop thing is entertaining to me - For years the Left has been telling us that only an Ivy League education has merit. - Olberman's Cornell degree in broadcasting beats a State University degree in Engineering. - Nothing against Ivy League education but what you did after you graduated counts a LOT MORE.
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Kenm123t
Posted on Monday, February 22, 2010 - 10:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

99 Thats not the Cornell you think it is
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Drkside79
Posted on Monday, February 22, 2010 - 10:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Come on while Bush Jr may have bee enrolled in Yale it hardly means he earned it. I mean does any one remember what a blundering fool he was.

Also the answer to the miss me yet billboard...

NO
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Drkside79
Posted on Monday, February 22, 2010 - 10:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)



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Blake
Posted on Monday, February 22, 2010 - 12:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

"fears that somehow the US is going to be turned into a socialist nation."

What do you mean "is going to be"?

Since the government takeovers and bailouts of the automotive industry, banking industry, insurance industry, since implementation of Social Security and then Medicare and Medicaid, and government run schools and continued government run postal services and commuter rail, we aren't anything but a Socialist nation.

The final icing on the cake for the Progressives/Socialists will be Socialized/government managed health care for all.
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Blake
Posted on Monday, February 22, 2010 - 12:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

"What I like about Palin is that with wit & goodwill to all she brings out the really ugly side of the Left. When people see how really ugly the Left is they will avoid it like leprosy. "

Well said. Haters like some here for instance. I'd like to know how someone can graduate from Yale and Harvard and not earn it. The answer: If you are not a left winger Progressive/Socialist, you are an idiot and cannot have earned it.

Hugo Chavez, Fidel Castro, Mao, Stalin, and Hitler all used the same type of malicious hateful propaganda against their political opposition.
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Drkside79
Posted on Monday, February 22, 2010 - 12:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Yale and Harvard and not earn it.

Money

And please don't compare me to Hitler again
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Drkside79
Posted on Monday, February 22, 2010 - 12:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Blake P.M. sent

Albeit hastily and poorly worded.
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Drkside79
Posted on Monday, February 22, 2010 - 12:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Furthermore on this website I have endured pictures of Obama hugging Bin Laden. Constant assaults on mine and other liberals morals beliefs and ethics. You continue to allow this and compare US to Nazis. Give me a break. I have at least kept it civil for the most part. Problem is the second I or we take our gloves off I fear we will get suspended or banned. So please forgive me if I do not lend much credence to such a hypocritical statement.
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Liquorwhere
Posted on Monday, February 22, 2010 - 01:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

And please don't compare me to Hitler again

I don't think it was a personal thing calling you Hitler specifically, there was a long list there you sort of picked out Hitler.....but if someone were to call me Hitler I would have to pause and think of the context of it. Hitler caused many atrocities, wars, killed many people and was shameful in so many ways it would seem he had no redeeming quality...but if you look deeper.....

Hitler was also a bit of an artist, wrote a book, found a way to unite a nation (albeit through the hatred of others and a socialist agenda but what a community organizer eh? ; )) umm...let's see...rebuilt much of the German economy and instilled some pride back in a country demoralized after their loss in WWI, and came up with a cool name for a car Volkswagen ( I have no actual knowledge Hitler named this company), he also loved Coca-Cola so much that Fanta was created so he could still get his fix (more completely made up facts that I may have seen in a movie that couldn't possibly be thought to be credible as a source). Anyway...maybe if you are called Hitler it may be for the few good things he did...ever write a book, name a car or get a corporation outlawed from doing business with you to create a new one just to do buisness with you? If yes then congratulations!! You could be Hitler...Like..Hitler like.

Hopefully you can see the dripping sarcasm and humor of the post meant to hopefully lighten yours and others moods. If not...well....my bad.
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Monday, February 22, 2010 - 01:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

DS,

How does Bush have his record tainted by money and Obama and Gore not?

You don't get to go to Harvard or Yale and be poor unless you are a minority.

The perceived double standard is what stands out.
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99savage
Posted on Monday, February 22, 2010 - 01:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Kenm123t;
I know & I don't care - fine w/ me if he went to the ag-school side. Knew some fine people who passed thru there. My problem is w/ people who associate magic w/ institutions & use them for self stroking.
I went to a State Technical University on the GI Bill, not Ivy League on a Pell Grant or minority set-aside - While there engaged in correspondence w/ a MIT student. - WITH ONE EXCEPTION WE USED THE SAME G.D. TEXTS.
Since then worked w/ graduates of most everyplace & if the Ivy League types have any inherent superiority it sure passed by me. Point of fact, on the average, Univ. of AL engineers were the best I worked w/.
Still say that would rather look @ somebody's results than undergraduate institution. - Sarah has results - Barry was a "Community Organizer" and it shows

Took about 2 hrs for Drkside79 to prove me right when I said "What I like about Palin is that with wit & goodwill to all she brings out the really ugly side of the Left"
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Kenm123t
Posted on Monday, February 22, 2010 - 01:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

My cousin attended Havard law I asked what she thought of it ( you need to check you shoes often! more B.S. flows at Havard than at a dairy)

Oh and liberals are moral? That comes from one of the two things they are liberal on Drugs the other is abortion other than that they are greatest control freaks in the planet.
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Aesquire
Posted on Monday, February 22, 2010 - 07:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hey! I'm a liberal. ( ok, old school liberal, call me rational libertarian if you like....)

I'm not a Progressive. I could easily have been talked into being one. But the history of the Progressive movement is....uneven, and heavily edited. All the cool stuff is there in the history books ( if you find the older books ).

A Progressive isn't a Commie. Commies aren't as smart. Ask a Progressive. Hillary is a proud one. ( Someone asked if she thought of herself as a "liberal". No. She's a 20th century American Progressive )

A Progressive thinks getting rid of the poor stupid people & those of bad bloodlines is a good idea, they like forced sterilization & death camps. But won't admit it after 1945.

A Progressive is certain that YOU are too stupid to know what's good for you. But that's ok, they will be happy to make the decisions. But not take the responsibility.

I was being sarcastic about banning Ivy League school Graduates from office. It's tempting, but it wouldn't be fair to the possible good guy who makes it through. I do note the large # of real jerks who are Harvard Grads. Yale too.

Kieth Uberman did go to the "cow college" version.... I don't hold that against him. I hold his words against him.

I'd rather work with a smart aggie than a foolish Ivy leaguer. ( I hang out with students from BOTH Cornell's )

If someone uses Hitler's, Stalin's, & Alinsky's tactics, and you are called on it,........ Are the feelings hurt by the "unfair comparison" or the truth?
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Monday, February 22, 2010 - 08:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

If one is squeamish about the tactics of Progressives, Socialists, and Fascists, one should not parrot doctrines produced from the same source.

The modern masters of propaganda for both the modern progressive/socialist movement AND the Nazi party are the same.

Lippman and Bernays.

"The modern master of the propaganda game was PR genius Edward Bernays, Viennese-born nephew of Sigmund Freud. Bernays took propaganda seriously for his career work: he combined individual and social psychology, public opinion studies, political persuasion and advertising to construct “necessary illusions” which filtered out to the masses as “reality.”
"Bernays proudly referred to this all-important social process as the “engineering of consent.” All of this had little, if anything, to do with real democracy. The objective for Bernays was to provide government and media outlets with powerful tools for social persuasion and control. As a matter of fact, so impressed was he with Bernays’ early works Crystallizing Public Opinion (1923) and Propaganda (1928) that Nazi propaganda minister Joseph Goebbels relied heavily upon them for his own dubious inspiration in the 1930s. Apparently, that Bernays was a Jew mattered little to Goebbels....

"Bernays and journalistic giant Walter Lippman came to Woodrow Wilson’s aid in 1917 to reverse negative public sentiment about war. These two behind-the-curtain wizards were indispensable in helping the president whip gun-shy America into an anti-German frenzy to go “over there” for WWI. Bernays created the patriotic war slogan “Make the World Safe for Democracy”—an irresistibly patriotic mantra that America embraced..."

Propaganda: The Art of War




'Ours must be a leadership democracy administered by the intelligent minority who know how to regiment and guide the masses. Is this government by propaganda? Call it, if you prefer, government by education. But education, in the academic sense of the word, is not sufficient. It must be enlightened expert propaganda through the creation of circumstances, through the high-spotting of significant events, and the dramatization of important issues. The statesman of the future will thus be enabled to focus the public mind on crucial points of policy and regiment a vast, heterogeneous mass of voters to clear understanding and intelligent action.'

Edward Bernays
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Monday, February 22, 2010 - 08:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Lippman and Bernays were the main components in the Committee on Public Information headed by Progressive Journalist George Creel.

George Creel became America's first Propaganda Minister under Woodrow Wilson.

His focus was in shaping public opinion with the goal of promoting progressive ideals.


Interestingly, Creel rejected the New Deal because he felt that the policies of FDR strayed away from progressive ideals and were steering the nation towards communism.
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Aesquire
Posted on Monday, February 22, 2010 - 10:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

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