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A_s_r
Posted on Tuesday, February 09, 2010 - 10:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Got a chance to see the first flight of the 747-8 yesterday. Cool stuff...





Pictures: http://cid-6dda022c99725567.skydrive.live.com/play .aspx/747-8F%20First%20Flight?ref=1
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Debueller
Posted on Tuesday, February 09, 2010 - 11:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Here's to the 747-8 and the 787 finacing my pension......

I hope they are both big $ makers for the company.
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A_s_r
Posted on Tuesday, February 09, 2010 - 11:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Above were vids and pics I took. Here are some professional ones : )

http://www.king5.com/home/related/Watch-SkyKING-ae rials-of-Boeings-747-8-first-flight-takeoff-838281 77.html

http://www.king5.com/video/featured-videos/Watch-S kyKING-aerials-of-Boeings-747-8-landing-83843542.h tml

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/photogalleri es/businesstechnology2011017920/1.html

http://www.heraldnet.com/apps/pbcs.dll/gallery?Avi s=DH&Dato=20100208&Kategori=BIZ01&Lopenr=208009998 &Ref=PH&SectionCat=RSS01&template=gallery
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Nevrenuf
Posted on Tuesday, February 09, 2010 - 05:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

how is that compared to the standard 747.

i was working on concourse d the first time the concorde came into miami. the whole job shut down and the expressway almost totally shut down to watch this thing come in. always enjoyed working at airports to watch the planes take off and land.

(Message edited by nevrenuf on February 09, 2010)
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Edgydrifter
Posted on Tuesday, February 09, 2010 - 06:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

At 250' long and 225' from wingtip to wingtip, the cargo version of the 747-8 that they tested yesterday is about 18' longer and 14' wider than the current-gen 747. Here are some other fun stats.

Max takeoff weight: 975,000 lbs.
Max cruise speed: Mach 0.85
Max thrust: 66,500 lbs. (per engine)
Max payload: 154 tons
Est. range: 5,000 miles (7,000 for passenger version)
List price: $300M
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Paw
Posted on Tuesday, February 09, 2010 - 08:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Yeah the GEnx engines are the shit...the top of the line engine in testing has generated 85,000 lbs of take off thrust.
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Citified
Posted on Wednesday, February 10, 2010 - 11:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

No barrel role? Test pilots aren't what they used to be. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vHiYA6Dmws
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Radioelasais
Posted on Thursday, February 11, 2010 - 11:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Yeah the GEnx engines are the shit...the top of the line engine in testing has generated 85,000 lbs of take off thrust.

Hey! I work on GEnx. Wassup?
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Slaughter
Posted on Friday, February 12, 2010 - 01:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Folks don't realize that the 747 actually can lift more WEIGHT than the C5 - not more volume, more WEIGHT.
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Blake
Posted on Friday, February 12, 2010 - 03:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Steve,

Wow, that is interesting. I'd never have guessed it.
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Court
Posted on Friday, February 12, 2010 - 06:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

There is something about watching planes that never gets old . . cool stuff !
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Ferris_von_bueller
Posted on Friday, February 12, 2010 - 07:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Wasn't the lifting capacity of the C5 lowered because of some structural flaw??? I know it was originally designed to carry more weight than they allow it to.
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Reepicheep
Posted on Friday, February 12, 2010 - 08:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

85,000 pounds of thrust... That's what we used to call "a pretty good start". : )

You should hear what an engine sounds like when it goes from +92,000 pounds to -23,000 pounds over the course of some fraction of a second. I bet it woke up all the deer (which, at Peebles, outnumber GE employees by a factor of about 1000 : 1).

Shoulda combined the blade out tests with deer season, and gotten some good jerky out of it...
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Ferris_von_bueller
Posted on Friday, February 12, 2010 - 08:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I didn't know a jet engine could wind down so fast
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Xb12xmike
Posted on Friday, February 12, 2010 - 08:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I saw a C5 do a slow flyby (geardown-flapsfull) at an airshow at McGuire AFB years ago. Was feakin' A W E S O M E !!!

Is the 747-8 bigger than a C5?
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Court
Posted on Friday, February 12, 2010 - 09:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Some good info HERE . .

My favorite . .


quote:

The C-5 is also known as FRED ( ridiculous economic/environmental disaster) by its crews due to its maintenance/reliability issues and large consumption of fuel. The C-5 requires an average of 16 hours of maintenance for each flight hour based on 1996 data.[





quote:

During the 1980s the C-5As were re-winged to restore full design capability.[19] The US Air Force took delivery of the first C-5B on 28 December 1985 and the final one in April 1989.[44] The reliability of the C-5 fleet has been a continued issue throughout its lifetime,[45][46] however the C-5M upgrade program seeks in part to address this issue.[29]




On the other hand . . .


quote:

C-5A JET REPAIRS TO COST 1.5 BILLION

Pentagon Puts Outlay to Fix Wing Defects at 1.3 Billion as 'Overruns'

E-MAIL By JOHN W. FINNEY Special to the New York Times

December 15, 1975, Monday

Page 1, 832 words

WASHINGTON, Dec. 14 The latest Defense Department estimates show that it will cost $1.3 billion to fix defective wings on the C-5A cargo plane, which already is a symbol of Pentagon "cost overruns."


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Tom_b
Posted on Friday, February 12, 2010 - 10:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The 747-8 is the larger of the two by just a couple feet in length and wingspan. The 747-8 has an almost 130,000 lb. heavier max takeoff weight. the 7478 has about 1900 more nautical mile range in freighter form. 747-8 spec. http://www.boeing.com/commercial/747family/747-8_f acts.html
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Tom_b
Posted on Friday, February 12, 2010 - 10:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

There is a freight service that flies a russian built AN 124 into Wichita about once a week.. Pretty impressive plane. haven't seen it in a while
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Court
Posted on Friday, February 12, 2010 - 10:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

It's was always fun . . working in Wichita . . to see some of the stuff coming and going.

Boeing used Shilling, in Salina, for the flight testing of the 747 when it was in development and at the time I was building a transmission line not far away.

The thing . . when most of what I was flying were Convair 580's . . looked like a flying city.
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Reepicheep
Posted on Friday, February 12, 2010 - 11:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Ferris... it sure can wind down that fast!

(once.)


(Actually, it's called a turbine stall, and it is when the thrust through the engine gets reversed because something went wrong... the engine is still spinning the same direction, but the thrust reverses. The result is generally about 1/4 mile of titanium glitter...)
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Xb12xmike
Posted on Friday, February 12, 2010 - 12:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

C5 should have been turned into a Gunship like http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_AC-130:

Maybe the 747-8 will.
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Blake
Posted on Friday, February 12, 2010 - 02:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Ferris,

That was a temporary downrating until all the wingboxes were fixed. Metal fatigue is a bitch.
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Court
Posted on Friday, February 12, 2010 - 03:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

>>>> Metal fatigue is a bitch.

Just what qualifies you to give an opinion on structural fatigue????

: )
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Blake
Posted on Friday, February 12, 2010 - 06:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I broke sumpin' once?
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Court
Posted on Friday, February 12, 2010 - 06:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

One of the guys in the Porsche Club had this land near his office . . .


quote:

An Antonov 225 landed in MIA on Wednesday, Feb 10th and got to take a few shots of it.

Six engines, 32 wheels, two vertical stabilizers, world's largest (widest) aircraft.




Antonov 225 wingspan 290 feet length 275 feet

Airbus a380 wingspan 262 feet length 240 feet

Galaxy c5 wingspan 222 feet length 247 feet

Galaxy C5 no longer that big. Airbus 380 bigger at least wingspan and only and only 7 feet shorter in length.






















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A_s_r
Posted on Wednesday, February 17, 2010 - 11:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Some great shots from the chase plane...





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Hootowl
Posted on Wednesday, February 17, 2010 - 11:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hey! I can see my (parent's) house from here!
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