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Ferris_von_bueller
| Posted on Tuesday, January 19, 2010 - 05:48 pm: |
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ABC News: U.S. Military Weapons Inscribed With Secret 'Jesus' Bible Codes Pentagon Supplier for Rifle Sights Says It Has 'Always' Added New Testament References http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/us-military-weapons- inscribed-secret-jesus-bible-codes/story?id=957579 4&page=1 |
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Poppinsexz
| Posted on Tuesday, January 19, 2010 - 06:10 pm: |
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Known about this for years. I really can't believe it took so long. Oh well, it's over now. They'll probably have to pay to remove it from all the military sights and probably also loose their contract. Then go bankrupt close up shop and our soldiers will loose a top notch sight. |
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Cityxslicker
| Posted on Tuesday, January 19, 2010 - 06:18 pm: |
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Or we could just start dipping the rounds in pig blood and continue about the business of doing what needs to be done. Ps the advanced optics are the only portions that are inscribed. regular hard iron sites as produced on the M16 A not there. It is an indeed f'd up politically correct over zealous world when we are more concerned about what is inscribed on the sight than the ammunition and its results coming out of it. |
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Poppinsexz
| Posted on Tuesday, January 19, 2010 - 06:26 pm: |
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Have a muslim friend. He said we should have just dropped a bunch of pigs in, right before we go in. Said the terrorists would all run away as it is unacceptable to die around a pig. I do believe he was serious about that too. |
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Spiderman
| Posted on Wednesday, January 20, 2010 - 12:01 am: |
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I was going to drop a bunch of 'Piss Christs' hoping to obtain the same effect with the bible thumpers...
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X5thxgearxfreak
| Posted on Wednesday, January 20, 2010 - 12:22 am: |
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Have a muslim friend. He said we should have just dropped a bunch of pigs in, right before we go in. Said the terrorists would all run away as it is unacceptable to die around a pig. I do believe he was serious about that too. Wasn't there a bloke on here who suggested that a while back? Except, I think he meant actually contaminating ammunition with pork. Either way, some rich bloke should pay a PMC to unload loads of piggies in the Afghan Mountains. Instead of dogs hunting them out, it'll be pigs. Our old armourer at base swore by these scopes. Simply because of the fact they were bible related. A bit difficult to acquire in Her Majesty's Armed Forces though, I dont think they made mounts for the L85A1 IWs anyways. Rumour had it the 'sneaky' fella's could get anything and everything they wanted. I don't know if they used these scopes or not, I'll have to check into that. |
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Kenm123t
| Posted on Wednesday, January 20, 2010 - 12:51 am: |
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May the markmanship of our forces be swift and true. To smite our foes from afar |
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X5thxgearxfreak
| Posted on Wednesday, January 20, 2010 - 01:14 am: |
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Most beautifully said. That ought to be on a nice a keychain or bumper sticker, or on those yellow 'Support Our Troops' ribbons. +1, Kenm123t. |
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Geforce
| Posted on Wednesday, January 20, 2010 - 02:01 pm: |
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ACOGS...the sight in question here, are VERY good sights. I loved mine. Strangely enough...never had nay idea this existed. The time spent reading serial numbers for sensitive item checks isn't long. If you ask me... this is being pursued up by a bunch of idiots. The media coverage alone is more damaging than the actual reality of the "codes"... Not once did I ever hear of any enemy reference to our fire arms of christ. Sounds like a bunch of horse !@#* if you ask me. |
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86129squids
| Posted on Wednesday, January 20, 2010 - 02:14 pm: |
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Hmmm- we could start bringing over some serious wild boar to them terrist mountain holes- but first, raise them hoggies up lernt to sniff out and attack/eat said terrists. Them piggies DO get big, runnin wild in the woods. Bet they'd do real good eatin up them jihaddi nuts. |
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Crackhead
| Posted on Wednesday, January 20, 2010 - 03:05 pm: |
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Well, we should be able to pick up a bunch of surplus scopes for cheap soon. |
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Ferris_von_bueller
| Posted on Wednesday, January 20, 2010 - 03:09 pm: |
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Can't wait, Crackhead. Those sights ain't cheap |
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Oddball
| Posted on Wednesday, January 20, 2010 - 04:28 pm: |
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Current standards will likely call for their destruction in Capt Crunch instead of release and sale to the civilian market. |
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Buellinachinashop
| Posted on Wednesday, January 20, 2010 - 05:04 pm: |
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"Current standards will likely call for their destruction in Capt Crunch instead of release and sale to the civilian market." The US Gov is going to keep using them. I read a quote from an Army General who said, "would we toss out dollar bills because they say "in God We Trust"? |
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Aesquire
| Posted on Wednesday, January 20, 2010 - 07:40 pm: |
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Great scopes, great scope company, obvious anti-American anti Christian news company. What possible other reason do they have to run that story? |
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Johnnymceldoo
| Posted on Wednesday, January 20, 2010 - 08:30 pm: |
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Ive not seen the scopes but would imagine they would look shnazzy on top the IMI Tavor as the IDF secures Mount Moriah ![](http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/clipart/daisy.gif) |
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Aptbldr
| Posted on Thursday, January 21, 2010 - 02:32 pm: |
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Law requires our government remain distinct from religion. It works, too. Link, gov't burns Bibles (printed in local language) in Afghanistan: http://www.factcheck.org/2009/05/burned-bibles/ |
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Dwardo
| Posted on Thursday, January 21, 2010 - 03:44 pm: |
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I wonder how many pork chops would fit into a B-52 bomb bay? |
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Mnrider
| Posted on Thursday, January 21, 2010 - 04:17 pm: |
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They hate dogs too. |
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Reepicheep
| Posted on Thursday, January 21, 2010 - 04:46 pm: |
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quote:Law requires our government remain distinct from religion.
No it doesn't. It requires that the government not adopt an official state religion. If the government had said, as part of the bid process, that all Trijicon scopes be built by Christians, and contain Bible verses, that *would* have been illegal. If the government put an open bid process and chosen the best product at the best price, and the best bidder happened to have a corporate tradition of stamping bible versus as part of their model numbers, then that is NOT illegal. If the government decides, as a customer of Trijicon, that having Bible versus on their scopes when in a combat theater where that could create a lot of tension, that they would really rather have scopes without Bible versus, that's fine also. It's up to Trijicon to decide if they still want the contract. If the law requires a government distinct from religion, then it ought to start with the relegions of global warming, secular humanism, communism, environmentalism, etc. They are every bit as much religions as Islam or Christianity... |
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Blake
| Posted on Thursday, January 21, 2010 - 04:46 pm: |
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"Law requires our government remain distinct from religion. " Actually the law simply says that "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof". That's it. It says that "congress shall make no law." That's all. End of story. If some manufacturer wants to inscribe a code representing certain texts from a certain book into their product, then that is their right. It is the right of the consumer to purchase said product or not. But it certainly isn't illegal to produce or purchase said product. |
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Hootowl
| Posted on Thursday, January 21, 2010 - 05:20 pm: |
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Oh Blake, you're so 200 years ago. Don't you know we've had all these years of jurisprudence to tell us what the Constitution actually means? Constructionists...they're so adorable. |
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Johnnymceldoo
| Posted on Thursday, January 21, 2010 - 05:53 pm: |
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Its so ph-uking awesome how libs are hypersensitive to Christian anything while every one of my favorite tv shows has a token gay person or transgender person. I could care less about their sexual identity but quit spoon feeding it to me like Im some retard. |
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Cityxslicker
| Posted on Thursday, January 21, 2010 - 05:56 pm: |
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Onward, Christian soldiers, marching as to war, with the cross of Jesus going on before. Christ, the royal Master, leads against the foe; forward into battle see his banners go! Refrain: Onward, Christian soldiers, marching as to war, with the cross of Jesus going on before. 2. At the sign of triumph Satan's host doth flee; on then, Christian soldiers, on to victory! Hell's foundations quiver at the shout of praise; brothers, lift your voices, loud your anthems raise. (Refrain) 3. Like a mighty army moves the church of God; brothers, we are treading where the saints have trod. We are not divided, all one body we, one in hope and doctrine, one in charity. (Refrain) 4. Crowns and thrones may perish, kingdoms rise and wane, but the church of Jesus constant will remain. Gates of hell can never gainst that church prevail; we have Christ's own promise, and that cannot fail. (Refrain) 5. Onward then, ye people, join our happy throng, blend with ours your voices in the triumph song. Glory, laud, and honor unto Christ the King, this through countless ages men and angels sing. (Refrain) Or you could just go back a hundred thirty years ago; give or take a few. The words were written by Sabine Baring-Gould in 1865, and the music was composed by Arthur Sullivan in 1871. |
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Puddlepirate
| Posted on Friday, January 22, 2010 - 06:59 am: |
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That song speaks of defeating Satan, not killing everyone who isn't a Christian. Actually reading the lyrics instead of using snippets to justify one's specific agenda would tell you that. |
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Aptbldr
| Posted on Friday, January 22, 2010 - 07:07 am: |
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None posed product illegal. However, some consider it is unacceptable US government provide weapons in respect of a particular religion; since that specific respect may limit the free exercise of religion by a fellow citizen. I understand US military's been aware of 'codes' for years and routinely disregarded it. Don't look, don't tell. |
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Reepicheep
| Posted on Friday, January 22, 2010 - 08:15 am: |
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quote:However, some consider it is unacceptable US government provide weapons in respect of a particular religion; since that specific respect may limit the free exercise of religion by a fellow citizen.
Yeah, I wish the federal government would refuse to buy "green certified" or "carbon neutral" products as well, but whatcha gonna do when they are the best product at the best price? ![](http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/clipart/dunno.gif) |
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Spike
| Posted on Friday, January 22, 2010 - 09:14 am: |
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quote:However, some consider it is unacceptable US government provide weapons in respect of a particular religion; since that specific respect may limit the free exercise of religion by a fellow citizen.
Let me see if I have this right- A soldier is issued a weapon with "AC0G4X32JN8:12" printed on it, and the "JN8:12" part prevents citizens from the free exercise of their respective religions?? |
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Blake
| Posted on Friday, January 22, 2010 - 10:06 am: |
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Well said Spike. I'd sure like to understand that too. I can understand how some might be offended or upset to learn that their weapon bears a reference to text in the Bible, but saying that it prevents them from freely exercising their religion is a stretch. If I were offended, I'd simply find a way to hide, or remove the characters. |
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Slaughter
| Posted on Friday, January 22, 2010 - 10:11 am: |
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I think that you all are confusing OUR First Amendment with the Military's prohibition against proselytizing while in OTHER PEOPLE'S countries. We're NOT missionaries over there. We gotta realize we are training and equipping MOSLEMS to KILL MOSLEMS. If there is a chance that they're not gonna pull the trigger because it's offensive to their religion, I think that might become an operational issue. If I had a bunch of indigenous folks working with me, I'd sure as shit not want to be wondering about this. All this talk about pork, dogs, lobster and ugly virgins has nothing to do with anything if what we NEED to do is get the locals trained and motivated so we can GET THE HELL OUT OF THAT SHITHOLE. OF course, if we want to carry the ball ourselves and not get any local help, let's bring in our bibles and burning crosses... just let's make dang sure we're not going into combat with no dang Papists or Hebes. This should be a nice Protestant war. The last Crusade was &^*%ed up because it was run by the Papists. We gotta keep them danged Hebes outta this one too because they have their own agenda in the Middle East. Let's keep this war "OUR" war. |
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