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Gearhead
Posted on Monday, January 18, 2010 - 09:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Buell-1125R-2009-Bu ell-1125R-Damaged-Great-Deal-NO-RESERVE_W0QQitemZ2 50566002492QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_motorcycles?hash= item3a56e5c73c#ht_500wt_1182
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Guell
Posted on Monday, January 18, 2010 - 09:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

judging from the harley sticker on the tail of the bike, i would guess he wanted to rake out the front forks more like a big twin.
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Swampy
Posted on Monday, January 18, 2010 - 09:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I was at the Big Kids bike shop working on a couple of bent Sportsters. The question is ALWAYS asked, "What do you think happened?"

The answer is always the same.....
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Ironjim
Posted on Monday, January 18, 2010 - 09:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Arkansas plate. Probably parked too close to the meth lab when the explosion occurred.
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Hootowl
Posted on Monday, January 18, 2010 - 10:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Looks like the steering head broke away in the crash exactly as intended.
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Spiderman
Posted on Monday, January 18, 2010 - 10:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

the best part is the fact it still had temp tags on it LMAO
newbs
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Gearhead
Posted on Monday, January 18, 2010 - 10:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hootowl,
I'm sure you're right. It's really impressive that there is no damage to the wheel or the forks, though!

As we all already know, Erik knows how to design a great bike!
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Oddball
Posted on Monday, January 18, 2010 - 10:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Call Bryan Fuller. One for his next chopper.
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Koz5150
Posted on Monday, January 18, 2010 - 10:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Fat chick sat on the tank?
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46champ
Posted on Tuesday, January 19, 2010 - 12:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Bet you they were jumping the bike.
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Natexlh1000
Posted on Tuesday, January 19, 2010 - 07:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The neck is supposed to break off, leaving the fuel still enclosed.
It looks like someone got the fuel cell to break somehow.

I wonder if you can mash that engine into a 1979 sportster frame.......?
Nevermind.
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Diablo1
Posted on Tuesday, January 19, 2010 - 07:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Looks like the steering head broke away in the crash exactly as intended.

You think the steering neck is designed to break in a crash? Why do you think that?}
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Natexlh1000
Posted on Tuesday, January 19, 2010 - 07:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The more I look at those pics, the more I am thinking that perhaps something fell on the bike while parked.

No road rash or dents????


P.S. the XB frames are in fact designed to break off in a crash to prevent the fuel from being spilled.
I can only assume that the 1125 frames have the same deal.
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Court
Posted on Tuesday, January 19, 2010 - 07:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The steeRing head has a honeycomb element and will breakaway without rupturing the fuel tank. It works. 200 were crashed in testing to get this right.
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Natexlh1000
Posted on Tuesday, January 19, 2010 - 08:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

So how do you crack it like that without bending the forks like a banana or smashing the engine cases?

The more I look at it, the less this thing makes sense!
Brain hurt!

Perhaps run the VIN through carfax?
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Sknight
Posted on Tuesday, January 19, 2010 - 08:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'm really curious for the backstory too. There simply isn't enough ancillary damage for the head to be popped off like that.
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Skntpig
Posted on Tuesday, January 19, 2010 - 08:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Front fender is bent on front side.

Front header has tire marks.

Typical front end hit.

Pretty interesting that the steering head took the hit and ripped off and is designed to. I guess that's the way to do it with fuel in the frame. Cool.

The only thing holding it together looks like the clutch lines and wiring.
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Court
Posted on Tuesday, January 19, 2010 - 08:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

My curiosity is killing me . . . I had to send it to Abe to get the skinny.
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Gunut75
Posted on Tuesday, January 19, 2010 - 08:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I think it might have come loose during transport or something. I'll be watching to see what happened too.
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Wolfridgerider
Posted on Tuesday, January 19, 2010 - 09:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

It looks like it was rolled.

It has damage to both sides but no front wheel damage. I bet the front end broke loose when it landed....
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Wolfridgerider
Posted on Tuesday, January 19, 2010 - 09:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

This is what my bike looked like after it rolled in the nice soft grass of turn one at Nelson Ledges.



It was put back together in about 30 minutes and raced.


I miss that bike!
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Kyrocket
Posted on Tuesday, January 19, 2010 - 09:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

That's one heck of a rough wheelie landing.
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Hootowl
Posted on Tuesday, January 19, 2010 - 10:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

"You think the steering neck is designed to break in a crash? Why do you think that?"

I don't think that, I know that. : )
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Court
Posted on Tuesday, January 19, 2010 - 11:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

>>>That's one heck of a rough wheelie landing.

You can not do it with ANY wheelie landing. Part of the testing regimen used to be 100 "slap down" wheelies that are harder than anything any, regardless of absence of skill, civilian rider could do.
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Kyrocket
Posted on Tuesday, January 19, 2010 - 11:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Ummm, I was being facetious.
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Doughnut
Posted on Tuesday, January 19, 2010 - 11:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

}"slap down" wheelies

I want to see one!
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No_rice
Posted on Tuesday, January 19, 2010 - 11:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

i dont want to do one... ive slammed them down hard enough to blow the fork seals and be staring at the headlight when the motor cut out. not cool. well ok maybe a lil since i didnt die... : )
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Oddball
Posted on Tuesday, January 19, 2010 - 12:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

slap down wheelie sort of sounds like this


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Chrisrogers3
Posted on Tuesday, January 19, 2010 - 12:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Call me crazy but I really dont think this bike "broke" the way it was intended. To design the bike to have the steering head break off is one thing, but to have the frame split in two is a completely different thing. If that is truly the case though that the frame is intended to split then there would be all sorts of EPA issues due to fuel spills in my opinion.

It is quite the strange crash though. No rash really anywhere. So for the damage it sustained, it didnt slide far if at all.

*** Ok so I just read Courts post saying this the way it was designed with over 200 bikes being tested and that it wont rupture the tank....

Court my question here is, um WHY?! Why waste a 1200 dollar frame when they can design the stem to break and cost less than 100 bucks? I just dont get it. Do you have any insight?

(Message edited by chrisrogers3 on January 19, 2010)
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Hootowl
Posted on Tuesday, January 19, 2010 - 12:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The frame is designed to break at the steering head without affecting the integrity of the fuel tank. In fact, the frame sacrifices itself at that designed-in weak spot in order to save the fuel tank. The energy has to go somewhere.

I do not know whether it worked as intended in this particular case, I can't really tell from the pictures. Seems to have broken off pretty close to the neck, but I don't see any webbing at the break, and it sure looks like I can see into the fuel storage area.

Who knows.

I may be bidding on this thing (it's only a 14 hour drive away) so I may have answers in a few days.
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