The only reason you DON'T hear about "Indonesian terrorists" is that what passes for news companies here don't bother to report news from there.
And yes, Wavex, that's true, we do put Islam & murderous thugs together, because murderous thugs cloak their psychopathic desire for world domination & the slavery of others under Islam. If it was Baptist cretins who told the world that they are going to die for failing to bow to the laws of baptism, we'd be bitching about Baptists, and hoping against hope that Baptists that weren't Psycho's could either stop this movement of mass murder & world domination, or at least have the balls to tell us who the real Psycho's were.
That's really hard to ask, because the evil F&^%s are more than happy to kill "their own" as well as Infidels. More, because they feel betrayed. Duh! Since we are asking for just such a betrayal, Islamic people are terrified of those hiding among them.
Now in MY OPINION, from my long ago reading of the Koran, ( spell it how you like, it's in a different alphabet...and only the truth in Arabic. I read the Burton Translation.. with footnotes ) Islam was deliberately constructed as a faith to make soldier slaves from it's faithful. I could be wrong, but I don't think so. It certainly IS used as such a perversion of behavior control. If you don't believe me, watch Palestinian Kiddie cartoons. ( have a barf bucket handy )
Ferris, that article is thought provoking, and I mostly agree. Lucky for us all, the number of people actively engaged in converting the planet to sharia law are a minority. Of all the worlds Muslims, only about the total population of the U.S. think it's great if we're all killed. ( about 2-300 million ) Far fewer are willing to do so, and basic human fear of being stopped keep most of the 3 million or so people living here who are muslim from killing people every day. We only get, what, a dozen or so a year who kill in the name of their god in this country?
So, yeah, Ferris, feel better that maybe the infection of freedom from here will spread & make the psycho's less potent.
Buell2001b...
Why would we want to nuke Iraq after 9/11/01? Kill it's leaders, sure, Saddam only acted islamic near the end to try to get sympathy help. His was a classic dictatorship.
If you WANT a religious war, why not nuke Qom & Mecca? Do it during the Haj, while you're at it. I'll be happy to pull the lever at your hanging if we live. That's just stupid. Islam is or soon will be the most popular religion on the planet. I disagree with it, have contempt for those who use it for evil, and have a deep suspicion that it's creation was deliberate evil. But.
Slaughtering thousands or millions of innocent people is evil. I prefer to be on the other side. It's not as easy, but the nightmares are about the other side's actions, not your own.
I agree you can't dialog with the jihadists. Do you know a way to tell which ones they are? Tell me how please, and we'll party. ( no muslims in S.A.??? you are kidding, right? )
How often do you hear about Indonesian Terrorists?.... Probably monthly since 1987, but then again, sit reps from the AO are more critical than news driven by Joe Six Pack and Neilsen Ratings.
First round of unit out the door were all Tagaloug linguists to fight terrorists in Phillipines. They got rotated every THREE years. Standard rotation for everyone else....18 months. Theres more to Terrorism than ever hits the news.
And the Russian Number is a bit misleading. Most of your muslim population is in the former -Stan republics bordering the historic Persia area. St Petersburg? probably below 3%. And the CHEKA have no qualms about winning the hearts and minds of criminals with one in the head and two in the chest.
Any nukes should have gone to Mecca, Medina. Remember the hijackers were predominantly SAUDI
And if you really want a holy war, the Pope should meet every Fatwa/ Jihad with a new round of Crusaders to invade their soil.
Hell we have 6.2 million people in prison, send them over there, door to door, let the murders, rapists, thieves, grifters and drug heads have their free will with the region.
While we are at it, make sure you get an air strike on the Dome of the Rock
Until you have been where I have been, seen what I have, done what I have done You can bring your ignorance to me, and I will autograph it for you.
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(Message edited by cityxslicker on January 15, 2010)
Wavex, that was a childish and simplistic spin on City's comments. No one is saying all Muslims are terrorists but 99.99% of the ones that are trying to kill Americans ARE Muslims and that fact cannot be denied or ignored. Sane people are not calling for genocide of Muslims or mass detention camps. However, cavity searching grandma and x-raying children's genitals is not the answer. Some directed profiling is in order.
Ferris: I could care less about profiling... if that's the point you're trying to make, then sure...
My only point: 99.9999% of muslims are not terrorists and are just as horrified by the actions of extremists as we are (most terrorist attacks are against muslims!). Extremists in all religions are dangerous... extremism period is dangerous and some of you are not far from extremism yourselves if you continue to make ignorant amalgams.
"99.9999% of muslims are not terrorists and are just as horrified by the actions of extremists as we are"
"99.9999% of muslims are not terrorists"?
That would mean that out of 1B muslims on the planet, only 0.0001% or a mere 1,000 are terrorists, which is nonsense. They number well into the tens of thousands, possibly more.
99.9999% of muslims ... are just as horrified by the actions of extremists as we are"?
That's really frighteningly inaccurate. Recent polls indicate that a full 10% of muslims on the planet support the agenda of al qaeda. Waking up to reality can be painful to some. It can be very frightening to confront truth. How many times does America and the rest of the free world need to fall victim to islamist mass murderers for the islamist apologists and terror deniers to pull their heads out of the sand?
How many Muslims have you seen on TV protesting or denouncing the acts of those asswipejihadists'?? I don't remember ever seeing any. Where are all the muslims that are just as horrified by the actions of extremists as we are??
There's a lot of fear of inferiority and hatefullness in the following very insulting diagram and in anyone who would post it.
I truly feel sorry for such mean and hateful people. Why the hate? They will deny it, but their mean-spirited hateful attacks against others are just an echo of how they feel about their own lives. That's painful to understand and I truly feel sorry for them.
oh and on a side note, it looks like you need a math lesson too... if 0.0001% of 1B is 1000 then we did not learn the same math lol you're missing a couple of zeros there buddy.
Anyway, FYI since you missed it, my 99.9999% number was a figure of speech to make a point... I obviously don't know how many terrorists are out there... tens of thousands huh? LOL where do you get that data from?
I simply dont agree with the measures. Put em down where you find them, however you find them, when ever you find them. By guillotine, yard arm, or firing squad.
They are after all by the worlds account Terrorist, Subversives, Sabateurs and Collusionists Go read the Law of Land Warfare Geneva treaty accords. Yes read the original text not somebodys commentary on it. Go read all of it.
Hearts and minds of the enemy. One to the Head two to the chest.
The Russians did it right at the Bolshoi, we should follow in that example.
I am sure that the family of Nick Berg will tell you about glory and wonderment of Allah. Go ask them.
oh and on a side note, it looks like you need a math lesson too... if 0.0001% of 1B is 1000 then we did not learn the same math lol you're missing a couple of zeros there buddy.