| Author | Message | ||
     Jaimec |
I just report this stuff, I don't write it: http://www.motorcyclenews.com/MCN/News/newsresults /First-rides--tests/2009/December/dec3109-buell-go odbye-or-good-riddance/ Flame on! | ||
| Ferris_von_bueller |
I don't see any story but just a bunch of questions with no answers. | ||
| Danger_dave |
The public airing of anonymous ignorance will be in the comments section. | ||
| Cyclonedon |
just remember that motorcycle magazines don't have to like the bikes, just the owners that ride them. For a complete assessment of the Buell brand motorcycles, just come to the 2010 Buell Homecoming this year. That's the best way to learn about the Buell motorcycles and the riders who love them! | ||
| Rocketman |
MCN gave Buell a pretty fair hearing. Three testers. MCN tester Adam Child's ridden countless Buells from early standard bikes to unique racers. Steve Mercer, racer, had never ridden a Buell. Posted fastest newcomer lap TT 2009. Qualified 15th Macau GP - DNF. Justin Heyzelden is a former bike instructor. He's toured the world, including 11 trips exploring India. Currently rides a KTM 950 Supermoto. Bikes tested were XB9SX 1125 Cafe Racer 1125R. The overall verdict was, on the strength of this test, Buell didn't make bad bikes - they just made ones that weren't good enough, either because of dubious styling, poor finish in some areas, a clunky powertrain (on the Harley-powered models) or insufficient performance. The XB represents pretty good value, the two 1125s offer good road performance. But for all three you have to turn a blind eye to some of their faults to be tempted to buy one. And perhaps, as our Buell virgins found, there's the rub. All three of the bikes impress - but they also disappoint too much as well and in a ultra competitive market at a time of recession, sadly, that simply isn't good enough. Bye bye Buell, we'll miss you - but not as much as we might have done. ps; You've gotta be joking! There's no way a Buell 1125R is any match for the likes of Ducati. Steve Mercer - road racer. Rocket | ||
| Paint_shaker |
Funny thing... Since the demise of Buell and the blow out prices, I have heard a lot of "Wow! I wish I would have bought a Buell sooner!" comments. Kinda contrary to that article... | ||
| Rocketman |
How's that? Rocket | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
Same here Paint. | ||
| Reg_kittrelle |
May I echo Rocket, "How's that?" | ||
| Bads1 |
Like MCN Rocket doesn't seem to have much good say either. MCN has never written anything positve. Like paint said..... I've talked to several new owners that bought because of price and they simply love it. And as far as comparison to a Duc. I'll take the Buell. | ||
| Brumbear |
who gives a rats ass what a racer thinks of my bike I ask you to compare ins. prices for an 1125 and a litre bike I ask you to come from a new riders perspective and I ask you to come from an upgrading riders perspective. I.E. A guy 24 years old coming from a Ninja 500 looking at at 12K Japanese 20K euro or 12K American bike all close in performance close enough that the only difference they could feel is the more usability of twin bikes and lower ins costs of the Buell. Now all of a sudden things look different Triumph will always be in the running but I could go on with crash ability of a Buell substantially better than most exotics on replacements parts | ||
| Rocketman |
MCN has written some amazing copy in favour of Buells. And Erik Buell happens to know this for a fact. Truth is, seldom have Buell received bad press in MCN over the years - and I've read or at least glanced nearly every page for at least 32 years or so. With regard to this weeks BUELL - GOODBYE OR GOOD RIDDANCE? article, the full 3 page spread actually gave favourable copy. What MCN concluded was 'if you're prepared to turn a blind eye' which let's face it there's no denying it's kinda necessary (with good reason) they don't make a bad motorcycle - they just could have finished them better. The ugliness of the 1125 didn't do Buell any favours here either. You simply can't sell ugly bikes in the UK. Looks are of paramount importance when considering our biking culture. Rocket | ||
| Rocketman |
So the point is, Buells get blown out at knock down prices, attracting buyers who'd never owned a Buell previously, who have now had their eyes opened? So Buell were marketed poorly then, and / or overpriced too? Rocket | ||
| Rpm4x4 |
I will never understand how anyone can think the 1125r is an ugly bike. From the day I layed eyes on it I thought it was the most beautiful bike Ive ever seen. | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
So Buell were marketed poorly then We have a winner!  | ||
| Greg_e |
I think the 1125cr is pretty ugly. The 1125r looks nice. The XB*R is different and certainly odd. I will say that compared to my sort of sport Katana the XB9R that I own is a far better machine. I will agree that the transmission shifts a little clunky, hopefully I can fix that, if not it is OK and I'll adapt. Then in the looks department I think the newest style of GSXR is truly ugly and I would not buy one (yes I was kind of looking at them). | ||
| Rocketman |
We have a winner! And thats Harleys fault too I suppose.......... You know, when HD were propping Buell up, if anyone had of said Buells are poorly marketed, it would have been a sin on BadWeB. People are so fickle. Rocket | ||
| Brumbear |
no I blame you | ||
| Rocketman |
Me too. Rocket | ||
| Hex |
I think the 1125cr is pretty ugly. That's cool, I don't, in fact I would have considered it next over all other new bikes. I would have put the 1125R/XB top triple tree with the built in bars (clip-ons) on the CR. | ||
| Bads1 |
if anyone had of said Buells are poorly marketed, it would have been a sin on BadWeB No it wouldn't of. That was never argued and it was a the truth. Buell relied on HD for that. Basically a company that has been far away from roadracing for a long time. They are trying to get the younger market attracted to them. Do you think they have been doing a good job of it??lol | ||
| Just_ziptab |
Yes,Harley's fault. Buell only supplied motorcycles to Harley..that was Buells only roll. After the bike was built,what ever happened to it was in Harley's hands. | ||
| Dbird29 |
How disappointing that the title didn't refer to Rocketman's departure. Your bile must be staining your teeth. | ||
| Jaimec |
Can't sell an ugly bike in the UK? Coulda fooled me with that "Pre-crashed at the factory" Triumph Speed Triple... Or even that godawful looking Rocket III. | ||
| Cyclonedon |
I think several saw the end of Buell was coming when the year 2010 models basically only introduced the cubing of one of the best motorcycles ever made! Of course that was the Harley's marketing for you! Harley never understood the true sportbike industry because they all lacked weight and chrome which is what Harleys are all about! | ||
| 4cammer |
Rocket, was the Speed Four sold in the UK? | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
And thats Harleys fault too I suppose.......... Wow, you're two for two! | ||
| Lemonchili_x1 |
What is good to see is that Buell are still getting press coverage in mainstream media. From the UK articles I've seen over the last few years, the UK press seems to have a lot of respect for Buell, PB magazine in particular. I do, however, wish the mainstream media would keep asking questions about why H-D have shut Buell down instead of sold the company/manufacturing rights. | ||
| Crusty |
Hey! Whaddayaknow! A topic the troll can use to shit on Buells to his hearts content! Of course, to him, any topic is an excuse to badmouth Buells. | ||
| Hughlysses |
Guys- I damn sure don't agree with some things Rocket has said but I think we can handle having at least one poster here that isn't 100% on-board with everything Buell's ever done. Sometimes we come off like these guys:  "YOU ARE NOT 'OF THE BODY'!!!" (old Star Trek episode reference for you young 'uns) Let's keep this civil, shall we? |
