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Oldog
| Posted on Monday, January 04, 2010 - 03:31 pm: |
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For the past several years we have heard the "Global warming song", I guess tiz time for a short ICE AGE! sure feels like it can you hear them the glaciers are moving! Scientisits are correcting their models the latest ones show that we will all be under 1 foot of snow in 2 weeks, Al will soon be proposing that we need to pay for Methane credits to help stimulate warming, you know nothing warms you like gas.... |
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Rocketsprink
| Posted on Monday, January 04, 2010 - 04:18 pm: |
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there's plenty of it on this site. Especially on these waste of space threads |
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Rocketsprink
| Posted on Monday, January 04, 2010 - 04:20 pm: |
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BTW, looking forward to meeting you guys at Homecoming. And I don't mean it in a threatening way. |
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Ferris_von_bueller
| Posted on Monday, January 04, 2010 - 04:23 pm: |
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Rocket, believe it or not, I generally don't talk politics, etc. at motorcycle gatherings, unless it's with people I know and have previously engaged in such conversation. |
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Fast1075
| Posted on Monday, January 04, 2010 - 04:38 pm: |
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We could use a bit of "warming" down here..it's freakin' cold!!! |
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Spiderman
| Posted on Monday, January 04, 2010 - 04:42 pm: |
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I shoveled a heaping load of 'global warming' off my driveway this morning... |
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Johnnymceldoo
| Posted on Monday, January 04, 2010 - 04:49 pm: |
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^^^LOL at spidey!^^^ |
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Hootowl
| Posted on Monday, January 04, 2010 - 06:15 pm: |
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Interesting. I shoveled a steaming load of global warming off my lawn this morning, then I scolded my neighbor for letting his dog run free. |
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Cataract2
| Posted on Monday, January 04, 2010 - 07:51 pm: |
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Man, it's just so warm outside my apartment. 30.7 °F Clear |
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Bjbauer
| Posted on Monday, January 04, 2010 - 09:15 pm: |
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Cry babies. 5 above now. It's supposed to get -20f on thursday. Haven't had a real winter here for a few years. Kind of fun. |
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Jumpinjewels
| Posted on Monday, January 04, 2010 - 09:48 pm: |
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It was beautiful here today, 42F. Wed/ Thurs no more than 20F and a low of -5. I can't wait for global warning. HURRY please On the drudgereport.com they had about 9 or more articles about the deep freeze affecting cities all across the globe. Gore needs to do some more work. |
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Madduck
| Posted on Tuesday, January 05, 2010 - 02:45 pm: |
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The long range forecast for north america had this winter being warmer than usual and a little drier through February. There is always the "climate change" conference effect, god freezes our asses off every year they have one. |
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Indybuell
| Posted on Tuesday, January 05, 2010 - 02:53 pm: |
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11 degrees in Indy. |
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Jumpinjewels
| Posted on Wednesday, January 06, 2010 - 10:16 pm: |
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Frozen Gore in Alaska
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Buellboiler
| Posted on Wednesday, January 06, 2010 - 10:40 pm: |
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After spending the break in Cadillac on the snowmobile trails, we could use more snow in the Fort Wayne area. I think we have a "consensus" with Florida setting record lows, Southern England receiving snow, record snowfall in Colorado and in the Alps - yes global warming has it's grip on the globe! |
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Fltwistygirl
| Posted on Wednesday, January 06, 2010 - 10:41 pm: |
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Frozengore is awesome. Wow. B. |
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Cataract2
| Posted on Wednesday, January 06, 2010 - 11:07 pm: |
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Oh man, is that pic above real? |
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Jumpinjewels
| Posted on Wednesday, January 06, 2010 - 11:26 pm: |
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This is the article from a newspaper in Alaska. It is real. Chilly politics: Gore ice sculpture back in Fairbanks Published: January 5th, 2010 02:25 PM Last Modified: January 6th, 2010 09:15 AM Link: Fairbanks Daily News-Miner Two Fairbanks businessmen are still so annoyed by former Vice President Al Gore's stand on global warming that they have commissioned another "Frozen Gore" ice sculpture for display in front of a liquor store. This year's version features Gore blowing smoke -- but only when a truck exhaust is connected. Businessmen Craig Compeau and Rudy Gavora say they'll commission the sculpture annually until Gore comes to Fairbanks to debate climate change. "Before we start carbon taxing ... let's try and educate ourselves," Compeau said. The Frozen Gore Web site also has pictures of last year's creation. Our current temp here in Castle Rock is 6F, to get down to -6F and a high of 15F tomorrow. If only global warming was true I'd be out riding right now. (Message edited by jumpinjewels on January 06, 2010) |
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Ezblast
| Posted on Thursday, January 07, 2010 - 12:35 am: |
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See Noaa and their North pole report http://www.arctic.noaa.gov/reportcard/ What where you saying? EZ |
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Aesquire
| Posted on Thursday, January 07, 2010 - 07:24 am: |
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Does the NOAA base their results on the mis-calibrated NASA satellite? Or the East Anglia CRU's faked data?
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Rwven
| Posted on Thursday, January 07, 2010 - 08:03 am: |
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Another North Pole Report... http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/03/16/you-ask-i-pr ovide-november-2nd-1922-arctic-ocean-getting-warm- seals-vanish-and-icebergs-melt/ |
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Aesquire
| Posted on Sunday, January 10, 2010 - 09:44 pm: |
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-124 2011/DAVID-ROSE-The-mini-ice-age-starts-here.html Which explains this. http://vortex.plymouth.edu/uschill.gif |
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Bjbauer
| Posted on Sunday, January 10, 2010 - 09:57 pm: |
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If true, as long as it isn't too disruptive to human life, I am all for it. I love winter sports!! (really) |
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Cataract2
| Posted on Sunday, January 10, 2010 - 11:04 pm: |
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Blah, I prefer extended summers. More riding. |
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Cityxslicker
| Posted on Monday, January 11, 2010 - 12:56 am: |
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wow , seattle warmer than Florida. It HAS to be the sign of one of the upcoming apocolypse ! spool up your rhetoric and paranoia now, avoid the data. |
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Sifo
| Posted on Monday, January 11, 2010 - 01:58 pm: |
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The link Aesquire posted is great. Looks like some in the IPCC have finally admitted the error of their ways. No doubt they eventually have to address the reality that surrounds them, but I've been wondering how long that would take for years now. The tide is turning...
quote:Among the most prominent of the scientists is Professor Mojib Latif, a leading member of the UN’s Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC), which has been pushing the issue of man-made global warming on to the international political agenda since it was formed 22 years ago. Prof Latif, who leads a research team at the renowned Leibniz Institute at Germany’s Kiel University, has developed new methods for measuring ocean temperatures 3,000ft beneath the surface, where the cooling and warming cycles start. He and his colleagues predicted the new cooling trend in a paper published in 2008 and warned of it again at an IPCC conference in Geneva last September. Last night he told The Mail on Sunday: ‘A significant share of the warming we saw from 1980 to 2000 and at earlier periods in the 20th Century was due to these cycles – perhaps as much as 50 per cent. 'They have now gone into reverse, so winters like this one will become much more likely. Summers will also probably be cooler, and all this may well last two decades or longer.
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quote:The bitter winter afflicting much of the Northern Hemisphere is only the start of a global trend towards cooler weather that is likely to last for 20 or 30 years, say some of the world’s most eminent climate scientists. Their predictions – based on an analysis of natural cycles in water temperatures in the Pacific and Atlantic oceans – challenge some of the global warming orthodoxy’s most deeply cherished beliefs, such as the claim that the North Pole will be free of ice in summer by 2013. According to the US National Snow and Ice Data Centre in Colorado, Arctic summer sea ice has increased by 409,000 square miles, or 26 per cent, since 2007 – and even the most committed global warming activists do not dispute this. The scientists’ predictions also undermine the standard climate computer models, which assert that the warming of the Earth since 1900 has been driven solely by man-made greenhouse gas emissions and will continue as long as carbon dioxide levels rise.
Much more in the article. The scary thing here is that we are in a period of El-Nino that typically warms up the northern hemisphere as was the case in 1998. What the heck would this winter be like without the warming effect of El-Nino? Chilling just to think about! |
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Oldog
| Posted on Monday, January 11, 2010 - 03:37 pm: |
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"The sky is falling the Sky is Falling!" |
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Aesquire
| Posted on Monday, January 11, 2010 - 07:44 pm: |
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Only if there is a consensus of scientists that say the sky is falling. Say, 125 out of 1000, before you cut the sample down to show your own agenda with faked statistics. Been zero to the teens here, and now the 20's (f). may get above freezing before we descend back into the Arctic hel. ( I know this belongs on the religion thread, but ever notice how afterlife for the wicked is usually cold? Fire & Brimstone is only a tiny part of Dante's Inferno ) |
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Aesquire
| Posted on Sunday, January 17, 2010 - 02:09 pm: |
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World misled over Himalayan glacier meltdown http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/environment/ article6991177.ece Here's 3 reasons to be careful of greenie propaganda. 1. they want to tax you for imaginary events. Real money. Lots of real money. 2. If you plant crops according to the propaganda, we starve. ( to those ignorant of farming, you plant wheat instead of rye because of bad weather predictions, it will fail.) 3. Since this is a mild winter per the met office in England.....( see pics at NASA ) people will suffer & die when weather forecasting is based on religion & politics, not science. (Message edited by aesquire on January 17, 2010) |
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Sifo
| Posted on Sunday, January 17, 2010 - 02:32 pm: |
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quote:Hasnain has since admitted that the claim was "speculation" and was not supported by any formal research.
quote:The New Scientist report was apparently forgotten until 2005 when WWF cited it in a report called An Overview of Glaciers, Glacier Retreat, and Subsequent Impacts in Nepal, India and China. The report credited Hasnain's 1999 interview with the New Scientist. But it was a campaigning report rather than an academic paper so it was not subjected to any formal scientific review. Despite this it rapidly became a key source for the IPCC when Lal and his colleagues came to write the section on the Himalayas. When finally published, the IPCC report did give its source as the WWF study but went further, suggesting the likelihood of the glaciers melting was "very high". The IPCC defines this as having a probability of greater than 90%. The report read: "Glaciers in the Himalaya are receding faster than in any other part of the world and, if the present rate continues, the likelihood of them disappearing by the year 2035 and perhaps sooner is very high if the Earth keeps warming at the current rate." However, glaciologists find such figures inherently ludicrous, pointing out that most Himalayan glaciers are hundreds of feet thick and could not melt fast enough to vanish by 2035 unless there was a huge global temperature rise. The maximum rate of decline in thickness seen in glaciers at the moment is 2-3 feet a year and most are far lower.
quote:Some scientists have questioned how the IPCC could have allowed such a mistake into print. Perhaps the most likely reason was lack of expertise. Lal himself admits he knows little about glaciers. "I am not an expert on glaciers.and I have not visited the region so I have to rely on credible published research. The comments in the WWF report were made by a respected Indian scientist and it was reasonable to assume he knew what he was talking about," he said.
quote:"The problem is that nobody who studied this material bothered chasing the trail back to the original point when the claim first arose. It is ultimately a trail that leads back to a magazine article and that is not the sort of thing you want to end up in an IPCC report.”
I'm not sure which is worse. This kind of incompetence, or the outright fraud shown by the climategate scandal. Very sad. |
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Pso
| Posted on Sunday, January 17, 2010 - 03:21 pm: |
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The only thing that I know for sure is that there is no guarantee that my next breath is mine. |
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