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Percyco
Posted on Tuesday, December 29, 2009 - 06:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Just got this in my email from the fags at H-D.


fags
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Tuesday, December 29, 2009 - 06:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Let's hope those responsible feel the same way about their employee security badges soon. : |
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Wolfridgerider
Posted on Tuesday, December 29, 2009 - 06:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

"The only collector's item that comes with seven years of support.

Now that Buell has stopped building America's sportbike, each remaining bike is technically classified as a collector's item. But instead of issuing a small laminate certificate of authenticity, every Buell comes with a Harley-Davidson, Inc. backed 24-month/unlimited miles limited warranty. In addition, Harley-Davidson, Inc. has made a 7 year commitment to supply replacement and service parts at over 250 authorized Buell service locations. Which is fitting, seeing how you don't buy a Buell to put in a curio cabinet or display on a mantle.

You buy one to ride."


Just think.... If H-D would have promoted Buell this much BEFORE Oct 15th... they may not have needed to send out emails like this....
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Ferris_von_bueller
Posted on Tuesday, December 29, 2009 - 06:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Do they mean that yellow lift thingy ?
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Tuesday, December 29, 2009 - 06:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

HD seems to thrive best under contrived scarcity.

I've had more than one person tell me that they preferred the days when you had to order a bike and had to go on a waiting list.

Really?
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Wolfridgerider
Posted on Tuesday, December 29, 2009 - 07:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I preferred the days when a dealership was a converted gas station that smelled of oil and gas...
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Tuesday, December 29, 2009 - 07:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I really like our dealership and I think the people, the "regulars", who are there EVERY Saturday like it as well.

I just wonder who the hell they are hiring in the marketing department.


I think there has been some significant corporate in-breeding.

What is in the field is NOT what is at HD headquarters. I think if the personnel changed places, you wouldn't recognize your local dealership nor HD corporate.
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Aldaytona
Posted on Tuesday, December 29, 2009 - 07:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I just got one too.
"seeing how you don't buy a Buell to put in a curio cabinet or display on a mantle.
You buy one to ride."
Seems funny to me that it is the exact opposite of a statement about Harley-Davidson motorcycles.
Damn Fags.
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Bads1
Posted on Tuesday, December 29, 2009 - 07:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I've had more than one person tell me that they preferred the days when you had to order a bike and had to go on a waiting list.


And those days I'll bet will return.
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Gentleman_jon
Posted on Tuesday, December 29, 2009 - 07:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

what a load of horse pucky.

I got one too. Makes me sick.
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Ferris_von_bueller
Posted on Tuesday, December 29, 2009 - 07:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

If those days return Bads, it will be because HD has downsized to the point they artificially create that condition.
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Court
Posted on Tuesday, December 29, 2009 - 07:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

>>>>Just think.... If H-D would have promoted Buell this much BEFORE Oct 15th... they may not have needed to send out emails like this....

One of the questions I have been asked by two folks who have called to interview me . . . . "why, with one of the world's most sophisticated marketing organizations, was Harley-Davidson never able to "ignite" Buell".

I gave them my answer which likely varies from the official explanation.

Harley-Davidson will not become "rare" in our lifetime. The folks they think they are catering to are long gone. It's like the guy sitting the square in Bethel, NY waiting for the next set to begin. . . . .

Harley's first challenge is going to be to make that May debt payment. Should be interesting to listen to their conference call in 3 weeks.

Here's a sense of what the market has done and what Harley-Davidson has done since the October 15th Buell announcement.

I don't think the sub-par performance is related to Buell in anyway. I do, however, think the Buell decision is indicative of the poor decision making that is taking place in a number of departments at Harley-Davidson.




The next thing that is going to become "rare" are 2,200 more management personnel.
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Kyrocket
Posted on Tuesday, December 29, 2009 - 07:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

small laminate certificate of authenticity


I'd much rather have that than seven years of an HD mechanic practicing with their greasy paws on my bike.
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4cammer
Posted on Wednesday, December 30, 2009 - 10:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

"I preferred the days when a dealership was a converted gas station that smelled of oil and gas..."


+1.
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Wednesday, December 30, 2009 - 11:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I have it from a fairly reliable source that the 100,000th "collector's item" Buell has been ridden hard and put up VERY dirty.

There is nothing that makes me want to hurl more than the thought of a "collectible Buell".
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Ratbuell
Posted on Wednesday, December 30, 2009 - 11:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I actually had to swipe at the odometer lens to be able to see through it, in order to take this picture at Homecoming.

It definitely gets ridden. (in and out of farmers' fields, right Court? LOL)





The only thing that really gets me - aside from the obvious "Buell is closed" part - is that with the blowout pricing from the mothership, we now have TONS of people riding Buells for the first time. And damned near to a person, every one I've met personally or talked to online has the same reaction.

"I should have gotten one of these sooner".

NOW everyone learns how great they are...
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Etennuly
Posted on Wednesday, December 30, 2009 - 11:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Maybe Erik can get that other motorcycle company open, you know the long following shadow company 'Bool' or 'Boule'. Perhaps they can attain the rights and continue the Ulysses program.
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Gunut75
Posted on Wednesday, December 30, 2009 - 12:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I got that too. All of my Harley t-shirts have become work shirts, and I'll be looking to get another "collectors item" soon, but it won't have ANYTHING to do with H-D.
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Cyclonedon
Posted on Wednesday, December 30, 2009 - 12:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

with Keith Wandell as their leader, Harley-Davidson is toast!

Just think, if Harley had sold Buell Motorcycle Company, they wouldn't have been in such bad shape.

I want to go to the Harley Museum this year at Homecoming, if it's still open by then, because it's likely to go away soon along with other Harley property. So sad!
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Wednesday, December 30, 2009 - 12:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

My understanding is that the licensing deal with HD is a one year only and WILL NOT be extended.

We'll see what happens 1/1/11.


Wonder what engine manufacturer would be available to fill the hole and what design it would be.

V-Twin?
V-Four?
IL4?
IL3?
V-Triple?
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Wednesday, December 30, 2009 - 12:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Heres the thing about a collectors item.... they werent popular during their run, or had a minimal run at time of production; and by in large the motorcycle world shunned them.
59 XLCH
71 XL Boattail
78 XLCR
78 MX250
84 XR1000

Now a bike that was popular with a cult like following... you have the motorcycle equivelant of Studebaker.
Want me to buy a RARE Buell... Let me at that 450 Dirt Squirting Rooster.
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Steve_mackay
Posted on Wednesday, December 30, 2009 - 12:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I want to go to the Harley Museum this year at Homecoming

We actually have plans to do that the evening of June 17th.
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No_rice
Posted on Wednesday, December 30, 2009 - 01:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

We actually have plans to do that the evening of June 17th

hmmm, that smiley face i never got accomplished there last time... or maybe a frowning face... nah that would be a waste of a good tire. better spent breaking in the at EBR shop... lol
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Ourdee
Posted on Wednesday, December 30, 2009 - 01:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I've got you covered Steve:
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Rex
Posted on Wednesday, December 30, 2009 - 02:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I am surprised that they can keep the museum open. I would think that would be a big write off expense each month...REX
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Paint_shaker
Posted on Wednesday, December 30, 2009 - 10:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

My "collector's items" aren't worth crap.

The 98 S1W has 42,000 miles...
The 04 XB12R has about 18,000, 1 race season, a high side and a low side...
The 06 Uly has nearly 50,000 miles...

It is MUCH more fun to ride them, then to collect them!!!
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Ferris_von_bueller
Posted on Thursday, December 31, 2009 - 12:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

My understanding is that the licensing deal with HD is a one year only and WILL NOT be extended.


I'm not seeing the big picture. What went on and what is going on doesn't make much sense.
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Thursday, December 31, 2009 - 01:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Three things come to mind. I don't see the big picture either, but I'm assuming a guy that made a 200 year plan isn't going to let a supplier interruption interrupt his plan.


1) I think Erik's heart is still with the racer. I believe he wants to do anything he can to keep Buells racing. EBR allowed him to support the racers and to continue to use the motors HD had.

2) I think EBR allowed Erik to continue to develop ideas for future implementation.

3) I think EBR allowed Erik to continue staying active and engaged.



I have a sneaking suspicion that there is another engine supplier in the works.
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Blackm2
Posted on Thursday, December 31, 2009 - 02:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

This guy obviously thinks his is a collector bike.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Buell-Lightning-XB1 2SCG-BLUE-FREAK-2009-BUELL-XB12SCG-WITH-ONLY-165-M ILES_W0QQitemZ250553633321QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_mo torcycles?hash=item3a56290a29
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Iman501
Posted on Thursday, December 31, 2009 - 02:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

i got that to, i was sitting there sayin "are they serious?" what level headed buell owner would look at that email and not want to go kick some harley bike over/do something to show your pride for buell!?
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