| Author | Message | ||
     Grancuda |
I know this is the Buell site and I looked at the CR but it just doesn't do it for me. I am looking at the pre '06 Triumph Thruxton which is the carb model, clip-ons and lame suspension that will need upgraded. I am also looking into the new XR1200 so no explanation needed. I am also looking at some of the Ducati Sport Classics that are bi-post. I have had 2 S1 lighnings, a 748, a 750 super sport and several sport bikes. I am really up in the air and unsure which to go with. I do no long distance rides, all around town and 40mi to work. Any one have any input on these? | ||
| Americanmadexb |
How bout an R? Have you riden one? It just might change your mind! | ||
| Jramsey |
Shoulda kept that gorgeous S1 you had. The Thruxton is a turd. The Street Triple on the other hand is a great bike for the money. | ||
| Cityxslicker |
The triple rides like if you made a Buell Lightning behave. I never was any good at behavin Though I do dig their Scrambler | ||
| Crusty |
Take all three for a Demo ride and buy the one that grabs you. | ||
| Malott442 |
The triple rides like if you made a Buell Lightning behave. What????!!! No similarity, whatsoever. The triple is a hell of a machine. Snicker smooth tranny except for N to 1st at light, power is much more, suspension has more adjustment. Thruxton =Character Sport= Individuality XR1200=Traitor bike | ||
| Rick_a |
The only one that actually handles like a sport bike is the Sport 1000. It won't have the torque of an S1, but has decent power, revs pretty quickly, and has a very smooth, linear power delivery (for a V-twin).  The Thruxton is a lot of fun and handles better than it should. It's a lot lighter than the H-D and feels much less cumbersome. They are smooth and refined...the only issue with this one is the lack of power. I found myself banging it off the limiter quite a bit. It's a modern bike with an old-school feel. Build the engine up and I think it'd be awesome.  The XR1200 I'm not a real fan of. It's still a bit underpowered and is long and portly. It handles and goes well...for a Harley. With a lot of work this would be a great bike...but IMO it's hardly worth it to spend so much an a bike that is already a fairly poor value.  Sport...Sport 1000 Cafe...Thruxton Sportier Sportster...XR1200 Me...I'd take an S1W (or XB head converted S1) over all of 'em.  The Street Triple is probably the most well-rounded bike on the market. If it had the power of a Speed Triple, it'd be PERFECT. The R version is awesome, but the standard has down rated suspension and brakes. The feel is like an SV650 with real balls, better suspension, and a high level of refinement. Have you looked into the Ducati Streetfighter? It is the ultimate naked bike; 1098 power in a well balanced package...the only hard point is the price.  | ||
| 2kx1 |
I don't think I would buy the sportster, it would just need too much aftermarket to make it right. The thruxton ,which looks fantastic on the outside , on the inside would needed to be modded from front to rear. It really is a pig. I would buy the Duc, it wouldn't need much to make it interesting, maybe bar risers and an exhaust. | ||
| Brumbear |
The street triple has no adjustable suspension only the R model does its a good machine for sure but I like the buell xb's more and it pails in comparison to the 25's | ||
| Gohot |
The Sport 1000 has my vote, what a sweet looking bike.The rest just look dated. Even if the Sport makes less HP, I think it could be hustled around faster than the others.The Triumph and the Sporty/hybred just don't look to be suspended very well. I think you set 'in the Sport, rather than on, like on a Buell or the others. | ||
| Bbbob |
The Thruxton- fun bike, many giggles per miles, Arrows & a high flow air filter really open the engine up. suspension can use an little upgrade. Street Triple R- fantastic right out of the box. Duc Sport 1000- great in the twisties, pretty to look at but most the uncomfortable of these bikes. Duc Streetfighter- all the good qualities of the Monster 1100, just more of everything, more power, more torque, more money, great handling, gobs of torque, really sweet with the Termignoni slip-ons... | ||
| Redbuelljunkie |
Thruxton- classic looks, lukewarm performance, uncomfortable. XR1200- strange looks, too heavy to perform, comfortable. Sport 1000- stunning looks, great performance (except below 3,500 rpm were it'll make you look like a novice rider- every day), very uncomfortable. GT 1000-same as Sport 1000, but quite comfortable. Monster 1100- polarizing looks, great performance (rear shock a bit pogo-like) otherwise same as Sport & GT 1000, comfortable. Street Triple R- kicks serious bum! Hands-down the best of this group: awesome looks, it's a naked D675 so it has modern super sport performance (and the most hp of the group), all day comfort, bulletproof reliability, amazing triple intake/exhaust note, lots of performance add-ons, and just does everything well. I can vouch for the STripR because I own one- love it! | ||
| 4cammer |
I'd buy a new XB12R. If not the 12R then I'd get the Duc. The XR1200 will make a great used bike to buy as I doubt resale on them will be very good. Time will tell, but it does not have the iconic appeal of the XLCR or the unique engine of the XR1000. Like a XB/R, the buying base will be small and dedicated. | ||
| Joebuell |
unless you took the CR for a test ride, it'd be a bit foolish to discount it. The xr I tested had the screaming eagle exhaust and a "tune". the sealer was all proud saying its got some kick. Coming off of a 1125r immeadiatly prior, the xr felt like tractor. you planning on riding it or polishing it? | ||
| Malott442 |
don't confuse the street and speed triples. Two completely different beasts....... I prefer the speed. GIMME TORQUE | ||
| Cityxslicker |
smooth, well mannered, soft suspension, Nothing I would ever take off road. It is exactly if you made the Buell behave and never leave the tarmac. Yes, I have ridden them, No I wouldnt trade the buell for one. Now that Scrambler is a different question all together. | ||
| Redbuelljunkie |
don't confuse the street and speed triples. Two completely different beasts....... Absolutely true. I have owned both (as well as several Monsters and a GT 1000), and there are big differences between a Speeder and a STripR- with the emphasis on big. The Speed Triple has considerably more hp and torque than the STripR, but it also has considerably more heft, more height, higher center of gravity, weaker brakes, and is an aging chassis/engine design. The STripR has a modern super sport chassis/engine combo, is lighter, considerably more agile, brakes better, feels about half the size of its big brother, and actually gets around many tracks quicker than the Speeder. The Speeder is a true hooligan street bike- it's tough as nails, looks mean, sounds great, is a wheelie monster, and is very refined. It is also heavy and long in the tooth. The STripR is a naked D675- a true super sport with modern engine and chassis, amazing agility, light weight, excellent brakes, awesome sound, highly refined and reliable. It's really an un-faired, comfortable track bike for the street. You definitely should not confuse the two. | ||
| Rick_a |
Going by the bikes originally mentioned, I believe Grancuda is looking for a modern retro...so the Streetfighter, Street Triple, and Speed Triple are out anyway. I can deal with cheap/soft/simple suspension/chassis and brakes on a street bike. If it's going to be a track bike as well or ridden very aggressively it's definitely a different story. Suspension and brakes can be easily rectified...chassis not so much. The GT1000's are definitely more comfortable if the clip-ons of the Sport are an issue. The frames are the same so it's easy to get rid of the big rear fender and remove the side panels if so desired (the two things that stand out as eyesores to me). (Message edited by Rick_A on November 29, 2009) | ||
| Dentguy |
Grancuda, Of those 3, I would go with the Ducati. | ||
| Imonabuss |
Rick_a, Actually the 1125CR is the ultimate naked streetfighter, if you are talking water-cooled. Bring on that Ducati! But if you're looking for the air-cooled choices, I'd add the XB12SS...a much better motorcycle compared to the three choices on the OP's list. | ||
| Rocketsprink |
I'd hate to park the Duc in the rain with that can pointing pretty much straight up. | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
I would go with either the Truxton or the Sport 1000. For all the hubub about the US not getting the XR1200, Europe can keep it. It's not very attractive and it's heavy. For a company that produces "retro" every day, HD completely screwed up the XR750/XR1200 offering. How the hell does this:  Become this?  Fail. Not to mention $45M over budget in development. Don't reward failure. | ||
| Liquorwhere |
That Ducati streetfighter is the stuff, but if you have never ridden a KTM SuperDuke, do so before you buy. That bike is the real deal, nice smooth power, corners like a beast, comfortable riding position, really the only drawback is depending on where you live the dealer network can be a little sketchy. Also depending on how much you have to spend, that new Aprilia V4 Streetfighter is due out soon as well, it will probably beat the RSV4 to the floor, but don't even consider the Shiver, gutless. | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
By the bike list, I think the intent is classic, air-cooled. The others mentioned are great, but there is charm in simplicity. I would really like an old CB550/750 cafe. | ||
| Xb1200rick |
Fail. Not to mention $45M over budget in development. How in the world do you go 45M over budget with a cut and paste design . No wonder they are in trouble. Rick | ||
| Liquorwhere |
By the bike list, I think the intent is classic, air-cooled. Well yes....but considering all the others that were tossed around, ie Triumph Speed and Steet Triples and the Ducati Streetfighter was mentioned so I figured I would post up one of the best I have ever ridden in that class, the SuperDuke. If you just want an air cooled naked bike that looks great, rides great and has some simplicity, my X1 is on ebay. So there ya go. | ||
| Imonabuss |
Liquorwhere, An 1125CR will KILL a SuperDuke. That's a fact. | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
How in the world do you go 45M over budget with a cut and paste design . No wonder they are in trouble. Rick Now you get a glimpse as to why Buell had to die. When a successful platform can be brought to market at a fraction of the cost of YOUR project, people start to ask questions about YOUR abilities. Easier to Kill the guy making you look bad than to sharpen your pencil and improve your work. | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
An 1125CR will KILL a SuperDuke. That's a fact. True dat! In every respect. Same with the Speed Triple. | ||
| Liquorwhere |
An 1125CR will KILL a SuperDuke. That's a fact. I have an 1125R, but I have never ridden a CR, I have ridden a Superduke, Tuono and owned an X1 and an XB lightning. I have also tested the Speed Triple, but not the street. I don't know about the 1125 killing a Superduke, depends on what you mean by kill. That Superduke was awesome, and if you ask Rocketman he will say the Brutale...I guess it is just a matter of taste. So what do you mean kill? Flat out speed? Twisties? Overall suspension, performance, smoothness of the engine, comfortable position, power delivery, usable power, torque....what do you mean by kill? |
