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Nvr2old
Posted on Saturday, November 21, 2009 - 12:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

If HD rebranded the XB bikes as Harley Davidson's and continued manufacturing and some minimal development, would you stay with the XB's or go 1125?
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46champ
Posted on Saturday, November 21, 2009 - 12:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I think the only way H-D would do it would be a modern version of the FXR with a modified version of the XB motor in a crome moly frame. You know the way the new Sportster should have been built.
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Panhead_dan
Posted on Saturday, November 21, 2009 - 12:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I would stay with the XB but dealing with HD would be something I would have to think about.
I have no use for the new engine.
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Slaughter
Posted on Saturday, November 21, 2009 - 01:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

They won't and have said so in published statements.
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Saturday, November 21, 2009 - 01:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

ooooh an FXR Hooligan with a Thunderstorm motor?.....

(yes I know its the big twin, but with the thunderstorm, she gotta be lighter)
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Saturday, November 21, 2009 - 01:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

It would be technically Buell tech through out since Erik had a big hand in the FXR frame project.
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Nvr2old
Posted on Saturday, November 21, 2009 - 01:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Probably won't, but it makes some sense to me anyway. I say that because I traded a 1200R Sportster for a Uly because the Uly corrected all the things I disliked about the Sportster, but kept the reliability and feel of the motor. I had been thinking either a BMW or a Uly.

I think Uly owner's will agree the bike gets a lot of looks, and that means interest. To kill a bike with potential just because of a mismanaged economy does not make sense.

Maybe I'm just envious of those who bought the 1125's and, as of yesterday's announcement, have a glimmer of hope that the bike they like has a future.

I think we should continue to communicate with HD that we are not happy with the shutdown of Buell and would like to see the XB's continue to be available.
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Court
Posted on Saturday, November 21, 2009 - 05:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

They won't and have said so in published statements.
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Teddagreek
Posted on Saturday, November 21, 2009 - 05:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I don't see bikes but could HD pull one by and put out a Sporty with thunderstorm motor..
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Malott442
Posted on Saturday, November 21, 2009 - 07:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Could HD use a lighter frame, less chrome, and make their bikes feel more like they were meant to turn?
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Nevrenuf
Posted on Saturday, November 21, 2009 - 08:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

It would be technically Buell tech through out since Erik had a big hand in the FXR frame project.

when i asked him about my fxrt, i'm pretty sure he said he had a good bit to do with that project. i could have misunderstood him. but none the less, it is reason enough not to ever sell the fxrt and get it restored one day.
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Ratbuell
Posted on Saturday, November 21, 2009 - 09:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

HD has already done a bike with (a lot of) the thunderstorm tech in it.

Its called XR1200.

Considering we can't *give* one away in our market...I doubt HD is gonna go and try to do another. *Especially* since they have publicly stated they won't rebadge Buell bikes as HDs.
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Motorico
Posted on Saturday, November 21, 2009 - 10:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The XR1200 is quite removed from a Buell as far as function goes though. It still has an extra almost 200 lbs.

I would love a Sportster to clock in under 500lbs that could turn and brake.
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Oldog
Posted on Saturday, November 21, 2009 - 10:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I would love a Sportster to clock in under 500lbs that could turn and brake.

It was called a "tuber" or steel frame buell..
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Oddball
Posted on Saturday, November 21, 2009 - 10:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Rat, they do sit quite a bit. At 11k hd can keep'em. When marked down significantly they moved at one dealer.
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Rex
Posted on Saturday, November 21, 2009 - 10:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I don't think HD will use any Buell tech in the frame. Maybe the air cooled motor parts. I think that they will position themselves away from Buell, and make everything HD. tech. REX
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Rick_a
Posted on Saturday, November 21, 2009 - 11:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

These are all kick ass Harleys (and Harley engined motorcycles)







































What do they all have in common? All are highly modified from the original or are built upon aftermarket and custom frames...point being that stock they leave MUCH to be desired.

(Message edited by Rick_A on November 21, 2009)
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46champ
Posted on Sunday, November 22, 2009 - 12:35 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Yes these are what I'm talking about, but I'm afraid that Harley has forgotten they have a racing heritage.
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Rick_a
Posted on Sunday, November 22, 2009 - 01:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

They haven't forgotten. I'm sure it is a bitter memory...at least as far as road racing goes.
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Cyclonedon
Posted on Sunday, November 22, 2009 - 02:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

as much as I like Harley-Davidson (American) Motorcycles, I just can't see myself purchasing one because of what they did to the Buell Motorcycle Company. I wouldn't have ever made that statement prior to October 15th, 2009.

As a matter of fact, I was really interested in getting a Road King. That won't happen now!

I'll just continue to ride the BEST motorcycle ever made, a 2006 Buell XB12X Ulysses.
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Ustorque
Posted on Sunday, November 22, 2009 - 07:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

but I'm afraid that Harley has forgotten they have a racing heritage.

They may have forgotten for a little while, but if you recall at the end of the last AMA season, Erik ran through the HD board room and kicked them all in the nuts!

Awww! poor HD.

Rock on Erik Buell Racing!
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