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Cowboy
Posted on Friday, November 06, 2009 - 07:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Correct me if I am wrong I thought I heard on the news to night that if you are more than 64 yr old You are last in line for your flu shots
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Dcc46
Posted on Friday, November 06, 2009 - 08:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

yep its supposed to hit young healthy people the hardest
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Bads1
Posted on Friday, November 06, 2009 - 08:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

yep its supposed to hit young healthy people the hardest


Where in heck did you hear that??? How about elderly and younger infants. Or people that have a existing health issue.
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Skinstains
Posted on Friday, November 06, 2009 - 08:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Does anyone remember the early 1970's version of the Swine-Flu ? I remember waiting in a loonnngggg line with everyone in town at one of the schools to get my shot.
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Froggy
Posted on Friday, November 06, 2009 - 09:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Screw the old people, they are old and can't drive. : )
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Xl1200r
Posted on Friday, November 06, 2009 - 09:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Yeah, plus they're old.
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Pkforbes87
Posted on Friday, November 06, 2009 - 09:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

There are specific groups of people that get the shot first in order to minimize the spread of sickness. It starts with medical field personnel (if your doctor is sick, then he's gonna infect a lot of people with already weakened immune systems) Dunno who gets the shots after medical personnel, but there is a method to the madness..

I get my mandatory flu shot once a year. The past couple of years it's been a live virus in liquid form sprayed straight up my nose instead of the simple dead virus in a syringe method. Guess there are too many pussies out there scared of needles..
Well the spray worked anyway - it gave me the flu.
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Jramsey
Posted on Friday, November 06, 2009 - 09:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

>>they are old and can't ......


I think this old fart with a couple of tubers can prove you wrong



BTW The only flu shot I ever got was in the fall of '75 for the so called pig flu, had major reaction to it, never again.
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Slamber777
Posted on Friday, November 06, 2009 - 09:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

This is what l know about it.

Report from a hosp within a 200 mile radius stated they had 11 adults in ICU with the Swine flu. 7 where intubated and the oldest one was around 50.
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Bads1
Posted on Friday, November 06, 2009 - 10:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

It starts with medical field personnel (if your doctor is sick, then he's gonna infect a lot of people with already weakened immune systems)

Its available to them but they have the choice to refuse. Many doctors have refused also Nurses. If a doctor is infected he'd be wearing a mask to prevent spread.}
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Dentguy
Posted on Friday, November 06, 2009 - 10:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Tough start to the "sick" season at my house already.
My 5 year old son got a regular flu mist (inhaler). Two days later he came down with strep throat. Got him on some antibiotics and when the strep started to go away he came down with this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henoch-Sch%C3%B6nlein _purpura from the strep. Our pediatrician had only seen it once before. Very scary looking. Even scarier when I read up on it. Lots of urine tests and blood tests to keep an eye on his kidneys. He started getting over that and got the H1N1 "Swine" flu.

Fortunately my wife and I didn't get any of this, but it's been a scary start to the season. By the way, he's fine.

(Message edited by dentguy on November 06, 2009)
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Skinstains
Posted on Friday, November 06, 2009 - 10:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Ok so it wasn't a bad dream it did happen.

I happen to be one of those pussies that are affraid of needles. But that is not the reason I will not get the vaccine. I'd rather take my chances with any flu.
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Teddagreek
Posted on Friday, November 06, 2009 - 10:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Guys read up... to much hearsay get informed..

http://www.cdc.gov/h1n1flu/


If your like me and have a potential underlying health condition IMO get Vaccinated..
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Chellem
Posted on Friday, November 06, 2009 - 11:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Those nasal sprays, as I understand it, have live viruses. Many more people who get that actually GET the flu than from the regular shot. Supposedly a lighter version of it, but the flu none the less.

One of my fellow mommies at school has a kid who is immuno-compromised, and he wasn't allowed to get the nasal spray, because they couldn't risk a reaction.

I also take my chances with the flu. We get the mandatory vaccs, but, nothing more than we have to to keep the kids in school. Which, really, is plenty, I think.
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Pkforbes87
Posted on Saturday, November 07, 2009 - 12:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Chelle, you're right about the spray. It is a live virus. In my meager 22 years I could count on one hand the number of times I've been sick with a cold/flu. Ever since Tricare stopped offering the dead virus syringe in favor of the life virus spray, I've been sick once a year following the vaccine.
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Cowboy
Posted on Saturday, November 07, 2009 - 01:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I have heard of being to slow to catch a cold--but to old to catch flu--damn.
thank God most of us ride V twins we should be OK, now I worry about the inline crowd.
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Nik
Posted on Saturday, November 07, 2009 - 02:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

yep its supposed to hit young healthy people the hardest


Where in heck did you hear that??? How about elderly and younger infants. Or people that have a existing health issue.


It's called cytokine storm. In young healthy people the immune systems hits the virus too hard and it goes out of control causing an inflammatory response throughout the body kind of like anaphylactic shock.

Basically with swine flu its not the virus itself that does the most damage, but the body's own immune system reaction. The stronger the immune system the worse the reaction.
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Xbpete
Posted on Saturday, November 07, 2009 - 05:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Just a side note...

In Ontario Canada ( the province ) they gave shots to their incarcerated prisoners but did not give the guards and other personel in the facilities any vaccine.

Still a great shortage for young people, lots of lines and not enough to go around same as here in the US...

Got this from CHEZ106 the other morning, a rock station in Ottowa that brings me my tunes....


Gotta keep those bad guys from getting sick now...
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Technomad
Posted on Saturday, November 07, 2009 - 06:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The immune response hits the lungs particularly hard, so young folks with compromised respiratory systems are at greatest risk.
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Bads1
Posted on Saturday, November 07, 2009 - 07:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Nik,

I'm well aware of what it is and how it work's. Define young and healthy then an swer the question. Young as in infants and younger children??? Because saying younger people doesn't narrow down who is being talked about.
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Reepicheep
Posted on Saturday, November 07, 2009 - 09:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

BadS1... this same strain swept through in the 80's, so if you were exposed to it then, you probably won't be hit very hard now. You'll get it, but it'll be a low fever for a day or two, maybe throwing up one night (but probably not) and an annoying hacking cough and constant headache for a week or so.

If you are kid (weren't here in the 80's), your auto immune system has probably not seen this bug before, and it takes longer to respond, so it hits a lot harder.

Our whole family had it. My wife and I were annoyed by it, the four kids were pretty sick.
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Technomad
Posted on Saturday, November 07, 2009 - 09:14 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Those under 25 have been hit the hardest. With most flu strains 90% of the deaths are with those 65 and older. With H1N1, 90% are 64 and under.
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Bads1
Posted on Saturday, November 07, 2009 - 10:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hey Reep, If it was here in the 80's then it was here in the 90's all the way threw now. Strains get stronger not stay the same. There are so many strains now that one vaccine cannot protect from all. If it was here in the 80's then they would had a vaccine quicker then it has been.

With H1N1, 90% are 64 and under.

Where are you getting those stats from. Its effecting younger children and infants. Low immune systems in infants and younger children with health issues. Also elderly people that have underline health issues. My wife being a ICU Heart Nurse is seeing just this.
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Doughnut
Posted on Saturday, November 07, 2009 - 10:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

There are specific groups of people that get the shot first in order to minimize the spread of sickness.

I am not among the specific groups. Go figure.
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Hughlysses
Posted on Saturday, November 07, 2009 - 11:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The Spanish Flu pandemic in 1918 was similar in the groups it hit.

My grandfather survived that; he almost died the night my dad was born on 1 December 1918 but pulled through. Hopefully I inherited some kind of resistance or immunity from him.
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Technomad
Posted on Saturday, November 07, 2009 - 06:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

It's been reported in a number of places, and I don't remember where I originally saw it. Here's one reference: http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/711067

Google is your friend.
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Aesquire
Posted on Monday, November 16, 2009 - 06:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I hope we don't think back on this swine flu with fond nostalgia.

http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/140492/Million -hit-by-plague-worse-than-swine-flu-

I'm not ready to panic, but I'd avoid the Ukraine for a bit.
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No_rice
Posted on Monday, November 16, 2009 - 06:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Screw the old people, they are old and can't drive. : ))


ya i mean really, they've had a good run... ; )

my daughter was in the hospital on tuesday for the swine flu. she seems to be getting better!

i so far have spent all day tuesday and yesterday in bed sick as hell, but i dont think from that. ive just been coughing up blood for the last week so it'll go away eventually lol. i mean, i make more anyway...
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Nevrenuf
Posted on Monday, November 16, 2009 - 07:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Screw the old people, they are old and can't drive.


then why were you following me.
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