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Archive through November 16, 2009Babired30 11-16-09  08:40 am
         

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Court
Posted on Monday, November 16, 2009 - 10:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

>>I'd be happy to offer my $.02 in a letter.

Thank you . . . the key now is to move folks from just venting to the faithful on the internet and to pick up pen and paper . . . imagine if the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel business editor was to get 200 letters in the same day . . . .

In fact . . it would be cool if someone would organize a day for as many badwebbers as possible to mail a letter to the paper.

How many . . . here on BadWeB folks do you think we could get to mail letters this coming Friday?
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Hex
Posted on Monday, November 16, 2009 - 10:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'm in.
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Babired
Posted on Monday, November 16, 2009 - 10:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'll do it. should we get a heading and footer ready then a similar basic paragraph and then the 2nd paragraph would be from the individual sending it?
Do like a cut and paste post on here?
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Swordsman
Posted on Monday, November 16, 2009 - 10:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Actually I think it should be just opposite... individual's paragraph first, then a second paragraph stating the common facts. If an editor gets 200 letters that all start off the same way, they'll be ignored as copy-paste.

Anyone got all those "numbers" in a handy, easy-to-digest layout? Final cost to close, Buell's financial standing (profit or loss to date), total % H-D spent on Buell per year vs. some of their other costs, etc? Just so we're all on the same page... wouldn't want to have different sets of numbers floating around (and there have been), or it could blow the credibility.

~SM


(Message edited by Swordsman on November 16, 2009)
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Babired
Posted on Monday, November 16, 2009 - 10:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

good point the repeated paragraph should be a guide for the tone of the letter, that's why I was thinking have it first. But I see your point.
that one paragraph will be a visual reference for all of the letters coming in saying "we are together and we don't like what has happened!"

(Message edited by babired on November 16, 2009)
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Babired
Posted on Monday, November 16, 2009 - 10:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Milwaukee Journal Sentinal address
Mailing Address:
P.O. Box 371
Milwaukee, WI 53201
Elizabeth Brenner I think I saw on-line as President
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Babired
Posted on Monday, November 16, 2009 - 11:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Court need you to write up an first or second general paragraph and I'll take it then add a heading and footer to it and we'll post it. I'm not doing anything here at work today slowwwww: )
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Buellinachinashop
Posted on Monday, November 16, 2009 - 12:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I've already told my gf and family that I do not want any Harley related items for Christmas.

My vrod is already stored, so I don't need any parts for a while, and any parts I want, I'll get off Ebay.
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Court
Posted on Monday, November 16, 2009 - 01:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

http://www.badweatherbikers.com/cgibin/discus/show .cgi?tpc=4062&post=1649946#POST1649946

Mark will be leading the charge on this and Kathy . . would you please send him and note and offer to help.

Between the two of you we'll be in good hands.

I'll speak to Mark this afternoon.
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Swordsman
Posted on Monday, November 16, 2009 - 01:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Let's make this a bit more visible. I hate having multiple threads about the same thing.. hard to keep track of and to coordinate. This needs coordination.

If you are interested in taking part in the letter bombardment, please post in THIS thread:
http://www.badweatherbikers.com/cgibin/discus/show .cgi?tpc=4062&post=1649946#POST1649946

Thanks!

Boycott posters, carry on here.

~SM

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Buellinachinashop
Posted on Monday, November 16, 2009 - 02:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

What are we boycotting? Bikes or everything HD?
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Babired
Posted on Monday, November 16, 2009 - 02:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I think I just taught my last Rider's Edge class how is that for a boycott!
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Jammin_joules
Posted on Monday, November 16, 2009 - 03:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'll put it on our FaceBook page and in a blast to our HOG chapter. I will have to talk with the owner principle before putting it on our stoer WEB site, but that's even possible.
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Wolfridgerider
Posted on Monday, November 16, 2009 - 03:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I think I just taught my last Rider's Edge class how is that for a boycott

Keep your friends close, and your enemies closer.... I'm gonna keep teaching RE.... and ride my Buell to everyone.
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Babired
Posted on Monday, November 16, 2009 - 08:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I hear ya I might be teaching 2 with Annapolis next year after that I have my 10 years with RE. My goal is to get my 10 year pin then quit. I taught 2 classes last year, just did 2 classes this year at the worst RE program I ever taught for. I'm not working for the dealer I just left. They completely STINK! K
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P47b
Posted on Wednesday, November 18, 2009 - 07:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Come on people lets keep this going..
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Babired
Posted on Wednesday, November 18, 2009 - 07:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

go to the other thread and get your letter ready for the date to send it. My letter is ready. I'm still going to attend the HD womens event I need ideas for a silent protest sign to hang off of my Uly tail pack.
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P47b
Posted on Wednesday, November 18, 2009 - 11:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Babired...
I have one.
I didn't leave Harley Corporation,
Harley Corporation left me.
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Babired
Posted on Wednesday, November 18, 2009 - 02:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

more like closed the door on us!
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Babired
Posted on Wednesday, November 18, 2009 - 03:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Here is my first protest on the Women riding section of the Harley-Davidson web site.....................
I learned to ride back in the 1970's on Hondas and have owned metric bikes up until 2000. Then I walked in a HD dealership for the very first time and saw a bike that just drew me in, before the shop closed I put a down payment on it. It was a Buell X1 Millenium. The shop was the Route 40 HD Store in Baltimore, Maryland. Shortly after I bought the bike from them I was contacted by the store's Manager and asked if I could become a Rider's Edge instructor. I jumped on the oppurtunity to become one, I've been teaching MC safety already for the state and I would love to recieve different training on the same subject. So In March 2001 I became a Rider's Edge instructor. I was on my second X1 Buell and my riding skills are increasing even more. In 2003 I attended the Pimlico HD 100 aniversery party and I got to see a sneak peak of the new Buell XB9X and I was hooked again to the Buell Motorcycles In 2002 I attended my fisrt AMA womens' and motorcycling conference and took first place in the BattleTrax competition on my X1 shorty after became a Battle Master for Reg K. In 2002 I came to Milwaukee and got trained as a Program Manager for Rider's Edge and set up another RE program in Maryland. I attended my second AMA womens' conference in Georgia on my new XB9SX. My riding is still growing thanks to Buell and Harley_Davidson and their fantastic bikes. This year 2009 I ride a Buell Ulysses and rode it to Colorado with a past RE student from 2008 to my 3rd AMA HD and Buell sponsored Women and motorcycling conference. I'm still teaching Rider's Edge with my heart and soul helping as many women riders as I can then in October Harley Davidson shuts the door on me and shuts down Buell Motorcycles. Yesterday I get a flyer in the mail from Milwaukee. It says I have my own web-site and there are 34 models to choose from, there's one for every type of rider! HEY what about me!
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Babired
Posted on Wednesday, November 18, 2009 - 03:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

here is the link to the story I posted I'm surprised they posted it

http://www.harley-davidson.com/wcm/Content/Pages/w omen_riders/women_riders_stories.jsp?locale=en_US& #loc=detail/photo/6687365/2
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Wolfridgerider
Posted on Wednesday, November 18, 2009 - 03:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

How long do you think it will last?
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Babired
Posted on Wednesday, November 18, 2009 - 03:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

don't know you all like my protest?
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Wolfridgerider
Posted on Wednesday, November 18, 2009 - 03:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I gave it a 5 star rating...

Plus left a comment, but it hasn't been posted yet....
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Greenlantern
Posted on Wednesday, November 18, 2009 - 03:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I posted a comment, there was one up, but it just went poof!
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Babired
Posted on Thursday, November 19, 2009 - 07:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I see no comment even though 4 people rated it. If you are going to post a comment try to be non- confrontational, if your comment wasn't then please ignore above advice
This will give the other ladies here a chance to voice out in a more to the point but softer way.
Thanks for the 5 star rating! If somebody could post the page I did on here then it will help the other ladies go there and post their story.
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Jammin_joules
Posted on Thursday, November 19, 2009 - 01:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

P47b wrote:
Come on people lets keep this going..


I guess the wallet is more powerful than the ideals, for some at least. With the bike incentives and both clothing and accessory prices on discontinued items, we have never sold even close to the amount of revenue on Buell items are our daelership as October and again now in November.

Kinda hypocritical to criticize a dealer or a company for focusing on the all mighty dollar when we Buell owners are doing the same, I should think.}

P47b:
I didn't leave Harley Corporation,
Harley Corporation left me.


I like that, needs to be on a Rogue shirt Sarah Palin wears.
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Babired
Posted on Thursday, November 19, 2009 - 02:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'm sorry man but I feel the same way that is why I said they shut the door on me. I feel kicked out. I think P47B is thinking the same.
I think we do need to keep it going as well but not with outrage, but with class
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Babired
Posted on Friday, November 20, 2009 - 07:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

somebody posted a comment on my polite protest on the HD women riders site
Okay Court and Mark how are we going to corral everybody to do a launch count down on the letters
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