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Cowboy
| Posted on Tuesday, November 10, 2009 - 06:56 pm: |
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It would keep the rif/raff from voting--if you are not responsonable enough to pay your tax-- you have no business voting--there was very little vote buying in those days--not many was willing to sell a vote they had to work for. |
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Edgydrifter
| Posted on Tuesday, November 10, 2009 - 07:14 pm: |
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We still do have a poll tax. It's called taxes. I pay them, so I get to vote. Odd that anyone would want to add yet another tax on top of everything else just for the dubious privilege of choosing one of two options, of which I'd usually rather choose neither. I much prefer the concept of a minimum competency test--can't name the current president or the capitol of your own state? No vote for you. |
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Cowboy
| Posted on Tuesday, November 10, 2009 - 07:23 pm: |
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I just dont feel comfortable with a person who has done nothing but draw a welfare check having a vote as strong as a man who has paid his taxes owneds land and worked hard all his life. |
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Edgydrifter
| Posted on Tuesday, November 10, 2009 - 07:31 pm: |
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Or we could adopt Heinlein's principle of "citizenship through service" (I know there are more than a few Heinlein fans in this forum who will recognize this). At age X, everyone is given the opportunity to serve the country. Those who do become fully enfranchised citizens with the right to vote and hold office. Everyone else is a resident, free to live and work in the country, but not given a part in the political process. |
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Rainman
| Posted on Wednesday, November 11, 2009 - 07:12 am: |
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Folks, remember that what shot down the economy in 2008 was a combination of Wall Street and DC, politicians and moneygrubbers; consumers with free money, lenders wanting free profits, the lifting of rules instituted in the 1930s to prevent the 1920s from happening again, and a world economy that slowly sucked good paying jobs -- yeah, union jobs paid well, much better than nonunion, which allowed more consumption -- and ... You get the idea. No one party took us down. No one group, Congress or corporate took us down. We worked together to blow ourselves up. How ever we choose to fix it, someone's tells will get run over. That's how it is. A high ranking Fed. Reserve official I recently interviewed told me that the new economy is going to look like the 1950s, only a little better. "The banks will have money to lend, there'll just be a lot fewer people eligible to get a loan." He also said people will live "simpler lives" and not be as mobile, living in their hometowns longer and with parents/family and in apartments. The 90s ain't coming back. |
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Mr_grumpy
| Posted on Wednesday, November 11, 2009 - 07:13 am: |
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What benefits for what constraints? What you call "constraint" I call oppression. Exactly my point Blake, it's a point of view. We could sit here forever batting statistics back & forth to prove our respective points of view, but I doubt either of us would ever concede the point. Personally I've got better fish to fry & I expect you do to so let's agree to disagree, especially today as it's Armistice day. |
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Pammy
| Posted on Wednesday, November 11, 2009 - 11:41 am: |
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"We still do have a poll tax. It's called taxes. I pay them, so I get to vote." Yes. But people who do not pay taxes, also get to vote. |
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