| Author | Message | ||
     Preybird1 |
Just thought i would thank obama for the f'n change and further screwing of the economy and the budgeted consumers on tires imported from china, 50% of the tires in the U.S. are imported. I have seen a 68 dollar tire sell for 89 dollars due to this imposed tax. http://online.wsj.com/article/SB100014240529702044 88304574431641244584198.html This affects my work and consumers directly!! Thoughts??? | ||
| Tbolt_pilot |
My nephew manages 4 big tire/repair stores in TN. He had containers of Toyo's get hit with the tax literally hours before the ship made port. BAM! 35% tax right on top. Toyo has shut down production in China and bringing it back to Georgia (I think). Maybe thats one thing that could help bring manufacturing back to the US. | ||
| Svh |
I am all for those tariffs and wish we did more of them on imported goods. The tax will hopefully press more US manufacturing. | ||
| Crusty |
+1 for Obama. | ||
| Rocketsprink |
you can have your Chinese made tires. Now the Prez is trying to do what should have never been undone years ago and people b!tch about it?! Will you people not be happy until everything we buy is made overseas? How the hell do you expect people to earn a living if there is no manufacturing here? A Country can not survive on an economy made up mainly of the Service Industry. | ||
| Crusty |
Rocco; there's one guy bitching and four who see it as a positive move. I hope this is a start of a trend. Corporate greed has moved a lot of manufacturing jobs overseas. If America doesn't start taking care of American jobs, we'll all be subservient to the Chinese in the near future. | ||
| Crackhead |
cheep tires should not be on the road period. the "amazing" deal for 4 tire for $25 are unsafe to drive on. It is so "amazing" that it will cost you more $ from increased insurance premiums from all the accidents those tires cause. | ||
| Limitedx1 |
i all for it if it brings business back over here +1 | ||
| Crackhead |
instead of taxing the tires, The standards should be raised so that the pos china tires don't pass. | ||
| Dentguy |
Did you guys that are praising Obama for this read the article? "..calculates that the 35% tariff will cost the economy about 20,000 jobs in the tire distribution and retail sector while "saving" only 1,000 jobs at domestic manufacturing plants. U.S. consumers will pay $330,000 in higher tire prices for each of those 1,000 jobs." "The reality is that industry margins are so thin and consumer budgets are so tight that even a 35% tariff will hurt the economy. Mr. Obama's first big trade-policy call is turning out to be a very expensive mistake." | ||
| Spike |
Wow, massive government intervention and protectionism isn't good for the economy? Never saw that one coming. | ||
| Xl1200r |
On the surface it's good. But, this is Obama. He should know better than to try making policy while he's also doing something important at the same time, like breathing. | ||
| Hootowl |
It isn't corporate greed, it is the consumer. When you buy the cheaper import instead of the US made tire, YOU are driving manufacturing offshore. The US company either moves production or goes belly up. | ||
| Greg_e |
Problem is that since it will cost more to make the tires here, they will still be as expensive as if they were imported. | ||
| Rocketsprink |
See crusty? are you also aware that China practices REAL protectionism? by goernment law, if a manufacturer wants to make items in China, but isn't owned by a Chinese, 100 percent of what they produce HAS to be exported. So the "American" tire companies can't even sell the tires they make in China to China. Nice huh? Since when have tarrifs been "protectionism"? Becareful what you wish for people. Sometimes cheaper isn't better. whai if China buys and starts to build Buells? They'd be cheaper, right? I suppose you'd still buy one | ||
| Jaimec |
Didn't take long for the political bullshit to come back, did it? | ||
| Benm2 |
It probably isn't the TIRES standards that need to be raised. Feel free to compare the following agencies: Chinese EPA / US EPA Chinese OSHA / US OSHA Chinese labor law / US labor law Chinese minimum wage / US minimum wage This list could go on for a while, but to be fair they're not the only country selling goods to the US where they're not made on a level playing field. The Chinese also have a nice long history of manipulating their currency to keep it "cheap" compared to the dollar. Lastly, there are still plenty of cheap tires available from Korea. | ||
| Benm2 |
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB125682903154416173 .html The above link falls right in line with problems with lead paint, and melanine (SP?) in MILK! Plus the original WSJ article is over a month old. I just checked TireRack for new sneakers, and from a sort by price the costs haven't changed. Fair trade, fair trade, fair trade. I get it. Rest assured though, the playing field is NOT level. | ||
| Cyclonedon |
maybe if they had an import tax on foreign made motorcycles, Buell would still be around! there's not going to be any tax increase on my American made Dunlops!  | ||
| Jimidan |
Good for President Obama. Just thought i would thank obama for the f'n change and further screwing of the economy ... This sarcastic remark is full of inaccuracies. If it weren't for the President and his administration's fiscal policies, this country would probably be in Deep Depression 2.0 right now. We certainly were on the edge last year about this time. Since then, the banks have come back like gang-busters, the last quarter's growth was at 3.5%, Ford made a Billion dollars, and my 401K made money for the first time in YEARS. Yeah, I know, we still have unemployment figures of around 9.8%, but considering the mess that the last bunch left us with, that is to be expected. Besides, is it really government's place to create jobs? I think not. Government can only create government jobs...and that cost a lot of money. Government can fine tune the economy and create a level playing field so that private sector can create jobs. It is funny how those who scream the loudest about government being too big or becoming "socialists" are also the ones screaming about it not doing enough to create jobs. You guys can't have it both ways. Thank the Lord that we have a smart President for a change. Now if we can just get that Congressional Party of NO out of the way (requiring a filibuster proof 60 vote margin on every bill is IN THE WAY) maybe we can get some stuff done. If it weren't for the absolute mess that the Bush administration left us in, the Buell Company would still be in business. Think about it... | ||
| Jimidan |
"The reality is that industry margins are so thin and consumer budgets are so tight that even a 35% tariff will hurt the economy. Mr. Obama's first big trade-policy call is turning out to be a very expensive mistake." Yeah right. The demand for tires is relatively inelastic. That means that folks are going to buy them in spite of the tariff. What else are they going to use on their vehicles? The kicker is that maybe they will look at American Made tires instead...which is a good thing. Get it? | ||
| Dentguy |
Oh boy. Now the Bush administration is being blamed for shutting down Buell.  | ||
| Skntpig |
I think this is great. I hate to see US jobs sent overseas. Bring on the import tax. CycloneDon...The last Dunlops I got were made in Great Britain and the ones before that in France. They were race tires so I don't know about their street tires. | ||
| Xl1200r |
Thank the Lord that we have a smart President for a change. WOOOOOOOOOOWWW... I was going to rebut the points you made in your post, but reading this line made me realize in an instant that all effort would be for nothing. Carry on. | ||
| Dentguy |
What Xl1200r said +1. | ||
| Delta_one |
does this remind anybody of the smoot-hawley tariff act of 1930 only on a smaller scale? but what is next? how many tariffs and taxes will be raised before this stupidity comes to an end? if we fail to learn the lessons of the past yadda yadda yadda, you know the rest | ||
| Alchemy |
The reality is that we have to have jobs to successfully move into the future. "Consumerism" compounded with a debt based economy can crush the wealth and future of a nation. We need to create value (manufacturing jobs) much more than we need cheap prices to stimulate the economy. "Cheap" is a temporary rush but it is not an economic future any more than an open bar means a balanced diet. I am buying 4 tires tomorrow BTW. | ||
| Mndwgz |
Oh boy. Now the Bush administration is being blamed for shutting down Buell.} Naw, it was Nixons fault, he went to China first and then he invented WalMart.  | ||
| Rocketsprink |
I'd have to say the last 5 Presidents all had a hand in this mess including Clinton with deregulation and NAFT. However I believe Reagan was the Grand Master of stpid. Talk about not learning from the past. Most here seem to have not learned that the Reagan "trickle down economics" doesn't work for shit. Yet you all continue to praise it? I don't understand that. Whether the money comes from tax and spend, or borrow our live away to other countries, we're still paying for it in the end. | ||
| Strokizator |
The 3.5% rise in GDP is largely artificial due to the govt influx of money into the system. Could it be that Ford made a profit because it is the only one of the big 3 NOT owned by the govt? If GM (60% owned by Obama) made a profit, then I might be impressed. Oh yeah, I can't wait to buy the new GM "green" car that is to be built in Delaware (thanks, Joe). Just saying. . . |
