| Author | Message | ||
     Odie |
Anybody up and running yet?? Likes....dislikes??!?!? I have played with it some on a laptop at the PX. I plan on a clean install next week. | ||
| Theslacker |
Been running it at home since the beta. Works great. Installed it on my work laptop a few weeks ago and everything is running smooth. Seems as fast or faster than XP Pro that was running on it. | ||
| Josh_ |
Running it at home and work. Vista SP2 with a tweaked interface. Works just fine. XP Mode is pretty slick for vintage apps. I have lots of apps, devices etc and everything worked out of the box, better than Vista RTM or XP. | ||
| Limitedx1 |
i will be recieving in monday!!! cant wait! | ||
| Birdy |
Been running 7 from the first beta. Stable, fast and no where near as big of pain in the a$$ as Vista was. | ||
| Froggy |
I have been running Vista on my main machine for the past few years, and downloaded the 7 public beta to put on my beat up piece of crap laptop. Personally I was disappointed, it was just a reskined Vista with a few background tweaks. Needless to say, I purchased it anyway and will be reformatting my Vista machine soon. I just haven't gotten around to it yet. I will hold judgment till then. | ||
| Mikej |
So can I just skip over the whole Vista level or do I have to do that one first? A guy here at the current temp gig is suggesting Ubuntu or a Linux varient. | ||
| Reepicheep |
I enjoyed the Mac add for it.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BpOvzGiheOM I have XP, Vista, and Linux at home (one mac box, but it's too slow to really be useful). I was pretty disapointed in XP as well. It seemed to have a lot of the same headaches XP had, but with worse hardware support. | ||
| Chadhargis |
As an IT professional, I am really trying hard not to weigh in on this, but I can't resist. Do some research, and you will see evidence that Vista and Windows 7 are still slower overall than XP. Microsoft tends to practice the "bloatware" concept where each release of their software gets bigger and bigger, but the functionality remains pretty much the same. Windows 7 has some nice features. I really like the sticky taskbar (ie "Dock" for those Mac people). I've been using and supporting Windows since the 2.xx days. That being said, I run Macs at home. I have three Windows machines on my desk at work. Two Vista and one Windows 7. Two of those machines boot to Ubuntu LINUX as well (for when Windows pukes on me and I still have to get work done). I reboot them every night. They are virus scanned with real time protection and full system scans each week. Patches are applied regularly. My Macs at home just stay running. Then never get rebooted unless an update requires it. The never fail. They never quit. They never slow down over time. UNIX is funny that way. It just works. Granted, the dedicated hardware makes that possible and that hardware is expensive. But the software is very affordable. I bought copies of the new Snow Leopard Mac OS for all of my machines for $49. A single use copy was $29. There was only one version to buy too. How many versions of Windows 7 are there? How much does it cost? Wow....major fail there Microsoft. Make one version, and let the installer choose what features they want to install. | ||
| Froggy |
Win7 lets you upgrade from XP and Vista. I personally recommend you reformat and start from scratch anyway, its like removing furniture before painting instead of just painting around it. | ||
| Chadhargis |
You can't direct upgrade from XP to W7. You have to do a clean install. | ||
| Rah7777777 |
i recently joined the MAC club......love it so far! also purchased a new laptop which came with microsoft 7, i just need to load it. | ||
| Cyclonedon |
Chad, doesn't the Windows Vista and Windows 7 have more internet security already built in the operating system? And isn't that why they actually run slower? I'm certainly NOT a computer geek, but that's what I've heard anyway. | ||
| Froggy |
There are many new features in Vista and 7 that take more power to run, but its no issue if your computer was built in this decade. In some ways Vista and 7 are faster, as they support multi core CPU's, which didn't exist when XP came out. Vista introduced the new more efficient memory management, which people were mistaken for hogging the memory. Win 7 beta ran fine on my 5 year old laptop, everything worked right out the box except for the video card, there was no driver support for Vista or 7 for it. | ||
| Reepicheep |
If by "more security built into the operating system" you mean "a desperate attempt to weld more crap to crap welded to other crap that was added under dubious circumstances in the first place", then yes, Vista and Windows 7 have more security built into the operating system  . | ||
| Seanp |
I'm running Windows 7 in a virtual machine on my Mac Pro, and it seems ok. I didn't have any major issues with Vista though, so it wasn't like I was just waiting for Windows 7. I got it for a student discount of $30 so I figured why not. It's . . . adequate, but I don't see the real advantage over XP. | ||
| Chadhargis |
I run XP on my Macs in a VM. It works great and runs the Windows app I need it to run. | ||
| Bigdaddy |
I'm actually running 7 on my TouchSmart IQ520, but only because it has touch genetics on-board. It's only used for browsing and as media center...if I need to do something I have a BSD VM ready to go Cisco still force feeds the use of IE for their bloatware Java GUIs and running the IE tab in FireFox can be painful so that's a fairly nice feature to have handy. Windows is so counter-intuitive. | ||
| Froggy |
It's all relative. I get aggravated when trying to use a command prompt in Linux, because I am used to DOS and Windows command prompts from over the years of use. Same thing with the GUI's, its frustrating when your trying to adjust basic settings like the screen resolution on a new OS and you are unable to figure out how. | ||
| Birdy |
http://art.penny-arcade.com/photos/697221235_AxzRa -L.jpg | ||
| Xl1200r |
I also joined the Mac camp, more just to have something new and different than for any dislike for MS. Although, the decision process was easy and pain-free. Shopping for a Mac, you basically buy what you can afford, and as long you understand what you're getting, you have no worries about the OS - it's good, really good (but not without quirks). Shopping for a PC, geez... Do I want to take a chance with 7? Should I try to find a tried-and-true copy of XP? Can I save money with Vista and is it worth the headaches? | ||
| Doon |
I have Widows 7 running in a vm on one of my Macs. Seems to be pretty decent, and PowerShell seems to be nice as well. (and the fact that cd ~ and ls work helps me when I get confused what OS i in | ||
| Froggy |
Doon, powershell is available for download in XP and Vista via Windows update. | ||
| Sphere79 |
I registered here 5 years ago and have been lurking on and off for the past few - recent unthinkable events have brought me back. I have yet to post since re-visiting but feel pretty strongly about this so I have decided to come out of hiding. My experience with Windows 7 thus far has been positive - it definitely seems a little slimmer than Vista and will run on hardware with less RAM. I do have some concern over issues people may have getting un-compatible XP software running, especially since not all processors will run the XP virtual machine. > A guy here at the current temp gig is suggesting Ubuntu or a Linux variant. That guy is smart. I'm currently in training to become a Microsoft Certified Systems Engineer and guess what's running on almost all my systems at home? Before making the jump (and spending the money) on Win7 I'd highly recommend giving Linux a try. I personally prefer PCLinuxOS - which isn't the big, corporate distribution that Ubuntu is but one with a small dedicated team that against the odds makes top 10 lists regularly. So yea, it's the "Buell" of Linux distros. It's a "live" CD which means you can boot from disc and try it before installing. It won't be super-fast running from disc but allows you to make sure all of your hardware will be supported before committing. It runs great on older machines and needs only 512MB of RAM to run nicely. For 256MB I use the "slim" PCLinuxOS LXDE release, and with less RAM I go with Puppy Linux - it runs amazingly well on old systems. You may have a "useless" old slow PC with Windows 98 on it laying around that would make a great web surfing PC with the right OS installed. You also don't need a virus scanner, which again helps free up system resources. I have installed Linux variants on my many of my friends and families computers in the past few months and the responses have been great. The PC's run faster, and you never get pop-ups to update software - it all comes from a central trusted "repository" that has thousands of programs to choose from. My parents were running Firefox and Thunderbird in Windows - they use the same programs in Linux now without all of the Windows bloat or viruses. Pretty much everything Chadhargis said about Macs rings true for Linux as well, my Mac using next door neighbors are loving Linux on their old Dell laptop. And while Linux is free, there is the occasional hiccup or compatibility question which is where forums and community come into play. | ||
| Limitedx1 |
um is windows 7 set to put your computer to sleep? and when it does this does it turn the tower off? two straight days i come home to find my compute off (no light on around button). then when i press the button it opens windows with all my programs i had open still running...i set it to never sleep so well see if that was the issue today | ||
| Spdkls |
i can't freakin get itunes to work, all compatibility modes don;t work either. i'm only on my 3 computer. other than that i've had no problems (Message edited by spdkls on November 03, 2009) | ||
| Doon |
Froggy: Yeah I know I can get powershell in XP (i no haz vista). But bash and zsh came with my Mac zsh being my current fav. Normally when on windows for any given period of time, cygwin + vim are what I am install, and then I can be productive... | ||
| Chadhargis |
If you are having issues with iTunes in Win7, get the XP Emulator. You can download it for free from Microsoft. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/virtual-pc/downlo ad.aspx | ||
| Limitedx1 |
microsoft zune works flawless with 7 | ||
| Aptbldr |
Where's Window 7 ftdi/vcp driver for ECM Spy? | ||
| D_adams |
Hmm, WinXP, 2.5 gb installed. Vista, 12 gb installed. Win7 pretty much the same as vista. These are clean installs, nothing else on the machine. I built a machine just for vista, quad core cpu, 4 gb ram, decent video card, etc. It ran like winxp with 512 mb ram and a single core cpu. I think the last time I installed win2k the install only took up 1.2 gb of space. M$ keeps getting more and more bloated and it's just eye candy to make it "look" better. I have my 2 other main machines running Gentoo linux, one install is from 2004 and it still runs like a champ. The other is maybe a year old install on a dual core box and it's a daily driver that gets ALL the abuse I can throw at it. Never hiccups or complains. I average 3 months between reboots, usually for kernel upgrades. I think the base install took up around 8 gb, but that includes all the source files. | ||
| Aptbldr |
Thank-you, D User problems : ) (Message edited by aptbldr on November 08, 2009) | ||
| Froggy |
Yes but when windows 2k came out, the typical hard drive side was 10gb. Today a cheapo low end dell comes with at least 300gb standard. I wouldn't touch 2000 anymore, its too much of a security risk. Also, Vista and 7 are designed to take advantage of your newer hardware, including multi core CPU's, high end video cards, and large amounts of ram. Windows 2000 would be putting them to waste. You got me there with the Linux, my daily Vista machine only hiccups once or twice a year, and I reboot it once every 2 months for Windows update. I can live with the extra 5 minutes of downtime, as when you install Vista, everything actually works right out the box, no need to download drivers or do any configuration. | ||
| Swordsman |
I'll definitely be upgrading to Win7 at some point. I'd hang on to XP, but the one and only virus I ever got FUBAR'd my HD, and I finally burned up my XP license key. Wasn't about to buy an old OS, so I installed Ubuntu. Ubuntu is great for basic stuff, but there's just no software for it. If it's not Office related, you're SOL, and heaven forbid you have a driver issue (time for programmer lessons!). The MS emulators and whatnot are only about 50% functional... if you can get your software to run at all, it has limited functionality. So yeah, Win7 here I come! ~SM |
