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Just_ziptab
Posted on Sunday, October 25, 2009 - 11:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

For the mechanically inclined......drop ship a bike to my driveway. I set it up per enclosed manual. Plug it into my computer for the manufacturers online check over. Take the manufactures statement of origin to the DMV and register it,get insurance and ride it away. Bike starts to run crappy,plug it into the computer again for an instant diagnosis from the mfg...... and faulty part shipped out to be replaced. Specialty service tools loaned from the factory or drawings to make your own. Parts/accessories ordered factory direct.Yeah,I know......dumb idea.It's not for everybody,but would certainly work for me........./
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Milt
Posted on Monday, October 26, 2009 - 07:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Brilliant - really.
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Koz5150
Posted on Monday, October 26, 2009 - 07:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

There is a lot on a bike that can go wrong without the computer noticing. Bearings, belt alignment, oil leak... Besides how would people get amazing deals on their bikes if they had no dealers to price war against each other?
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46champ
Posted on Monday, October 26, 2009 - 10:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

OK you have explained how 10% of us could maintain our bikes. Now explain how the other 90% will do it safely and out of that 1/2 of them shouldn't be aloud to have a screw driver.
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Milt
Posted on Monday, October 26, 2009 - 10:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

That's what Badweb is for.

Maybe the factory could send techs on house calls....
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Limitedx1
Posted on Monday, October 26, 2009 - 10:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

why not just sell them in every jim bob and harry dirt bike shop? i can see it now "kawasaki, honad, - --- buell dealer!!!
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Jaimec
Posted on Monday, October 26, 2009 - 10:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Count me as one of those who shouldn't be allowed within 20 feet of a screwdriver...
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Fast1075
Posted on Monday, October 26, 2009 - 11:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

LOL...I'm the opposite...I can't leave anything alone...and I just got a new screwdriver : ).
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Froggy
Posted on Monday, October 26, 2009 - 11:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

There was a similar thread in Court's area about being similar to how Dell operates.

To buy a Dell, you either call up or go online, place your order and soon your new computer is at your doorstep.

For service, you call or go online and talk to customer support. They will attempt to walk you through to either fix your issue or get enough info for the next step.

Dell has on site service, they contract it out to various companies. If your computer needs a new doohickey, Dell can either ship a new one to you and you ship the old one back, or you can have Dell ship it to the contractor and they contact you and schedule a time to come and fix it.

It is no different than Sears coming out to repair a broken refrigerator.

Most basic repairs can be done out of the back of a van, but something more complex would require the company to take your bike to their shop while it gets fixed.
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Milt
Posted on Monday, October 26, 2009 - 11:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I was pretty comfortable wrenching on the Blast. I'm scared of the 1125.
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Swordsman
Posted on Monday, October 26, 2009 - 11:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Froggy, that sounds like a plan to me! So long as their "customer support" isn't handled out of India. Damn I hate trying to explain stuff to those people!

~SM
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Gentleman_jon
Posted on Monday, October 26, 2009 - 12:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I have had three Buells.

After my first experience with Dealer service, I only went back once, and that was for warranty service - replacing a pourous casting on the timing case.

All the other work I have done myself, except replacing the startor, which was done by a friend.

That's XB's.

It seems like the 1125's require more warranty work, and more complex computer work.

How would warranty items be handled?
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Doerman
Posted on Monday, October 26, 2009 - 12:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Difference between Dell and a motorcycle.

Re-installing the OS is not an option.

Why do I always have a desire to listen to Bunny Lava after talking to dell?
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Tramp
Posted on Monday, October 26, 2009 - 12:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Plus, Suggesting that an end-use perform his or her own maintenance on a machine that can cause, easily, death/injury both to the user and others opens up a wide new chapter in the annals of the American Litigation fiefdom.
Holy sh*t- would MC insurance skyrocket!

I would scarce trust half of the riders I've met to correctly operate a torque-wrench, let alone to establish their own interpretation of what a 'clean' mating surface is.

Sure, many dealer-service techs suck, but they are indemnified against their own ham-fisted ineptitude.
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Oldog
Posted on Monday, October 26, 2009 - 12:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Why do I always have a desire to listen to Bunny Lava after talking to dell?

I would not want service by a "contractor"
so dealers make sense, I am lucky my local dealer while no Bumpus or Liberty is not bad the owner gets it.

I hate that he paid big bux to have the Buell sign and now this...
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Jstfrfun
Posted on Monday, October 26, 2009 - 02:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Those few dealerships in geographic areas friendly to the Buell are down-right rare!
The rest of us have to deal with the worst kind of representation from sales, service and parts ever displayed in retail sales.
I applaud Liberty and Bumpus, but they are the exception in this mess.
The second(and smaller)reason I let go of my X1, was dealing with HD. One of three dealerships, 70 miles away, would even speak the word Buell. No paraphernalia and of course no parts in stock that could not be cross refferenced to the sportster. I had to learn their job for them!
The first was I have no corners, no windey roads, so I opted to keep the geezer glide and gain the money.
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Bob_thompson
Posted on Monday, October 26, 2009 - 02:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Just_ziptab, I could definitely go for that idea, but i'm afraid I just might be on my last Buell given my age. However I like that approach. For others not so mechanically inclined, I think any reputable dealer of any manufacturer could do approved service on Buells be it Ducati, Aprilia, BMW or any of the Japanese mfgrs.shops. Once you have a good mechanic they can do any part of it. These other brand shops could probably use a shop manual on a Buell and follow it and may well enjoy your business. I would have one to give them. And it would probably cost a little more for service given it would not be their "factory bike".

Also here we have quite a few generic bike shops servicing all bikes usually with a good mechanic. They would also want to use a factory manual.

I personally want to see the "NEW" Buells, when they come back out, sold and serviced at one of the major mfgrs. shops even if its normally an ATV shop.
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Just_ziptab
Posted on Monday, October 26, 2009 - 06:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

We have machines at work that we "plug in" to a phone line and the mfg jumps right into the machine and sorts it all out..loads new programs/parameters/what nots and tells us what to do mechanically if needed. Works pretty slick.....and like I said,"mechanically inclined"....so I suppose the mfg would have to "qualify" you first....regardless that it would never happen..simply because of the "lawyer/insurance thing".
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Rainman
Posted on Monday, October 26, 2009 - 08:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

1/2 of them shouldn't be aloud to have a screw driver....

You been talking to my wife?
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Gentleman_jon
Posted on Tuesday, October 27, 2009 - 08:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I think I know what a clean mating surface is.


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Did I get that right?

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Zac4mac
Posted on Tuesday, October 27, 2009 - 10:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Turn her over, stupid...
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