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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Monday, October 19, 2009 - 01:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The engine is developed. The contract with Buell terminated.


Rotax is in the business of selling developed engines.


Who will be the first to buy it and put it in their model?

Aprilia
Bimota
Roehr
Fisher
Yard Man
Lawn Boy


Who's it gonna be?
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Froggy
Posted on Monday, October 19, 2009 - 01:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Me!

I am gonna start building hovercrafts in my basement.

(Actually, that doesn't sound like a bad idea : ) )


Maybe Roehr can work his magic with it, put a small super charger on it to match the Vrod motor, but without the boat anchor weight penalty.
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Bud
Posted on Monday, October 19, 2009 - 01:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

i don't think it is that simple,

you need to know the details off the selling out contract first,

could be the castings are property off hd now

so no other can use the helicon engine
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Mr_grumpy
Posted on Monday, October 19, 2009 - 08:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Froggy, you know that's not such a crazy idea, what with global warming going to flood low lying areas & all that.
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Rotorhead
Posted on Monday, October 19, 2009 - 08:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

BRP could use it in the new touring Spyder.
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Oldog
Posted on Monday, October 19, 2009 - 10:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Yard Man
Lawn Boy


You forgot Snapper



yes the Roehr would be interesting

Fisher would have to design a new bike
the fisher is a 650,

You have to wonder what Erik and Co learned over this time and what they would change if they [error ]When they do it again.}
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Jramsey
Posted on Monday, October 19, 2009 - 10:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Froggy

Wouldn't a sump pump be cheaper?
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Monday, October 19, 2009 - 10:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Wouldn't mind seeing what a new Tuono with the 1125 would look like.

The current styling of the Tuono is awful. Couldn't do much worse with the new engine.
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Rubberdown
Posted on Monday, October 19, 2009 - 10:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Aprilia doesn't need the Helicon. They have their wonderful new v4 that will go in a redesigned Tuono.
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Chadhargis
Posted on Monday, October 19, 2009 - 10:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Yep...just read the article on the Tuono V4. It's an awesome bike.

Sadly, I like twins. Like how they make power, they have fewer moving parts to adjust and they make great noises.

I just like twins. Good things come in pairs. : )
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Tpoppa
Posted on Monday, October 19, 2009 - 10:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I would imagine that HD owns the rights to the Helicon. Doubt you'll see it anywhere unless HD sells those rights.
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Buellinachinashop
Posted on Monday, October 19, 2009 - 10:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Any finished and unused motors will be crated up and shipped to Milwaukee. All designs belong to Harley.

To this day the 1125 hasn't seen one second on a HD PDC dyno. I don't see it being on one anytime soon.

What a waste.
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Richsm2
Posted on Monday, October 19, 2009 - 11:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

many times you have heard :if only but,we are locked into this design because" because the molds are made,, the money expended , development time and money does not exist and so on. management speak.
THIS is now not the case( I donot want it to be assumed that I think money is to be plucked from the sky),but it is people that make things work.
what is a new design? I really do not know here but I assume that is hd is not going to use the helicon anyway.( or then it would not be hd-see my other post in "I have a story")
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Court
Posted on Monday, October 19, 2009 - 07:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

>>>Who's it gonna be?

G) None of the Above.
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Monday, October 19, 2009 - 08:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I hope it's Pegasus Motors.

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Geforce
Posted on Monday, October 19, 2009 - 08:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

It's going to be Buell Motor Company. I remain optimistic...
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12x9sl
Posted on Monday, October 19, 2009 - 08:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

+1 Ft Bstd.
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Barker
Posted on Monday, October 19, 2009 - 08:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The hella-con was made to fit in a buell frame a stressed member. I'm not sure its so easy to drop into another frame with out loosing some benefits of the original design.
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M2statz
Posted on Monday, October 19, 2009 - 09:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

How about putting it into a snowmobile?
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