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Cityxslicker
| | Posted on Saturday, October 17, 2009 - 07:31 pm: | 
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I LOVE the CHANGE that this year has brought. 
/sarcasm |
Aesquire
| | Posted on Sunday, October 18, 2009 - 02:17 pm: |
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Oh, they KNOW how to do a recovery.
J.F.Kennedy did it. Regan did it. As did G.W. Bush. ( though Bush seems to have screwed it up his last year by listening to the geniuses that invented Tarp and bailouts of their buddies on wall street, but only their buddies. (the Dem's who profited off the housing bubble get some blame too, IMHO) )
You cut taxes on working class people, say, people EARNING ( you know, from a job ) under, say a million a year. ( to pick a "rich enough" sounding number, no real reason other than that ) Better is across the board cuts, but since the Obama team ran on class envy, hate the rich propaganda, figure the odds.
Cut Capital gains taxes, that brings back Wall Street.
That worked for the above three.
Additionally I would.
Dump "soak the rich" taxes, like the luxury tax that destroyed the boat building industry in the U.S..
Allow every American Citizen to open a portable "401k" with a variety of options. Just use & copy exactly the Federal Employee's system, and make it so no matter where you work, they may simply make deductions, and encourage employers to make matching contributions, by giving them tax breaks. You change jobs, it goes with you. Any extra's an employer wants to use as incentive, encourage them as well.
I'd also look real hard at the tax structure for U.S. companies that moved the jobs overseas, and see if there is a good way to encourage them to employ Americans, ( this one is tricky )
Selling each other cheap stuff made in China is not the same as buying stuff our neighbors make. That's important.
Explain to the American people that "Global Warming" is a major con job. Show who got really rich on the con, and tell them that America isn't buying any of that crap, and the massive taxes that were planned to gut the economy will not be put in place. We will, however, invest in alternative energy, offer huge X prizes for technical innovation ( low cost desalination, energy storage, biofuel, cheap orbital transport, etc. etc.), and defeat the foreign oil problem with french fry grease if we have to.
"Shoot the lawyers" alone might work, but I'm not suggesting that. I read Science fiction, not write it. |
Moxnix
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 21, 2009 - 09:37 pm: |
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Our beloved president is heading to Copenhagen to sell us down the river on "climate change" by signing a treaty. Congress, after the 2010 elections and the loss of majorities in house and/or senate, cannot undo an international treaty once signed and ratified by the current sheeple & kleptocrats in Washington, DC, IIRC. All this action can do is damage further the US economy.
I understand thru news outlets (that) the head of any company that received TARP money will have his or her income reduced by 90%. Now, THERE'S an incentive. Saving the economy by rebuilding the Soviet model. It's all hokum and claptrap. The Soviet Union put everyone to work at companies they controlled. You can see where that got them. It's not the fact that people are sweating on a job site or watching the NY skyline from a window office that makes a society prosper; they also have to be doing things that add to their wealth.
From Ich und Du (I and Thou) by Martin Buber:
"Mundus vult decipi -- the world wants to be deceived. The truth is too complex and frightening; the taste for the truth is an acquired taste that few acquire.
"Not all deceptions are palatable. Untruths are too easy to come by, too quickly exploded, too cheap and ephemeral to give lasting comfort. Mundus vult decipi; but there is a hierarchy of deceptions.
"Near the bottom of the ladder is journalism: a steady stream of irresponsible distortions that most people find refreshing although on the morning after, or at least within a week, it will be stale and flat.
"On a higher level we find fictions that men eagerly believe, regardless of the evidence, because they gratify some wish.
"Near the top of the ladder we encounter curious mixtures of untruth and truth that exert a lasting fascination on the intellectual community."
If I wanted to run the US into the ground in short order, destroy its vanguard role in capitalism, destroy medical advances, destroy the American family along with self-respect and initiative associated with opportunity, and bring a society in general to its knees, I'd join in voting for an Obama. |
M2me
| | Posted on Thursday, October 22, 2009 - 01:11 am: |
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Cut Capital gains taxes, that brings back Wall Street.
Wall Street is already coming back.
Allow every American Citizen to open a portable "401k" with a variety of options... You change jobs, it goes with you.
Have you ever heard of an IRA (Individual Retirement Account)? They have been around for many years. You can move funds from your 401(k) into an IRA if you change jobs, etc. I've done it a couple of times. You might want to look into the options available to you.
Explain to the American people that "Global Warming" is a major con job. Show who got really rich on the con, and tell them that America isn't buying any of that crap, and the massive taxes that were planned to gut the economy will not be put in place. We will, however, invest in alternative energy, offer huge X prizes for technical innovation ( low cost desalination, energy storage, biofuel, cheap orbital transport, etc. etc.), and defeat the foreign oil problem with french fry grease if we have to.
But isn't investing in alternative energy and offering huge prizes for technical innovation and defeating the foreign oil problem exactly what the global warming alarmists want us to do? Is that a con job? What's the con? Who is against it? Who is portraying global warming as a major con job and why are they doing that? Besides, where do you propose we get the money for all the investing and huge prizes and technical innovations? Do you think the money is just going to appear like magic?
If we the people want to invest in our country's energy future the money will have to come from somewhere. It will have to come from taxes. There is nowhere else for public investment to come from. Will some people get rich and others will not? Yes, but that's not the right question. The right question is: What is best for the country as a whole? |
Gaesati
| | Posted on Thursday, October 22, 2009 - 07:59 am: |
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How do the rich people get rich? Madoff? The executives of the banks and the car companies? Why are so many working americans so poor they can't afford healthcare which is free in so many other countries? Why is the performance of the US education system so skewed towards wealthy schools? Why is the US the centre for the world financial industry but not for production? Why is it that real innovators like Buell go broke and the slothful big auto manufacturers(and their executives)survive? |
Toomanyhobbies
| | Posted on Thursday, October 22, 2009 - 02:27 pm: |
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Sorry, but it was the last guy, not Obama. I'm a republican, but honestly, that is ridiculous to blame the guy for the recession that happened 5 months before he took office. Just sayin. |
Bud
| | Posted on Thursday, October 22, 2009 - 03:18 pm: |
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Sorry, but it was the last guy, not Obama. I'm a republican, but honestly, that is ridiculous to blame the guy for the recession that happened 5 months before he took office. Just sayin
i'm with that guy.
the recession was a car crash waiting to happen.
kill the bankers and the stock brokers |
Ferris_von_bueller
| | Posted on Thursday, October 22, 2009 - 03:29 pm: |
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Blame Greenspan and his followers. |
Cowboy
| | Posted on Thursday, October 22, 2009 - 03:58 pm: |
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I think it was the Democrat congres right after the Republicans lost the white house things started to go to Hell. |
Tootal
| | Posted on Thursday, October 22, 2009 - 05:44 pm: |
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+1 Cowboy, Bush warned Congress about Fanny Mae and Freddy Mac. He told them to tighten up on them because he saw what was going to happen but the Barney Frank told him that all was good, there was no problem and then BAM! Forcing banks to lend money to those who could not afford it is what caused this mess. In the last two years of the Bush administration he started to cave to the dems in congress. That's why Cheney was getting mad at him in the end. Obama is scaring the crap out of me. This global warming treaty is not about global warming, it's about us paying third world countries for our carbon footprint. It is an extremely bad deal for this country, and if the President signs it we are in deep do do. Wake up America!!! |
Ferris_von_bueller
| | Posted on Thursday, October 22, 2009 - 06:05 pm: |
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Sub-prime mortgages didn't bring down the economy - the unregulated over-the-counter (OTC) derivatives market did. The sub-prime mess came out from behind the curtain as a result of the collapse. Oh, btw, the OTC derivatives market, which is estimated at 600 trillion dollars, is still unregulated and poised to continue to wreak havoc. We live in dangerous times.
(Message edited by Ferris_von_bueller on October 22, 2009) |
Aesquire
| | Posted on Thursday, October 22, 2009 - 06:06 pm: |
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Have you ever heard of an IRA ...?
Sure, but it's something you go out & buy. Most people don't think they can afford it, and a 401k is not available at every job. Make a 401k type fund available to everyone, and then it's just a question of if & how much the employer contributes. Make it portable, so you don't HAVE to switch your money over everytime you change jobs. Not a govt. subsidy so much as a universal perk. It shouldn't cost us, the taxpayers that much, since the system is already there for all the federal guys, just tweak it to cover everyone.
As far as wall street coming back, that's partly because it's a place to put money, and besides, it was due to in Sept. anyway, per all the economic guys. Wall street isn't the economy, but those of us who "lost" a lot of value in our 401k's would like it to pay off when we retire.
The following is my opinion. I think one reason the stock market fell is they listened to the dem. presidential candidate, figured he was going to win ( and he did ) and heard his message of class envy & promises to jack up taxes on stock trading. If that's your gig, and you know you are going to get screwed, wouldn't you pull out your money & put it in something else, like gold & cash?? That's why I say, cut capital gains taxes.
What's the con? Who is against it?
"Global Climate Change" is the con. Anyone who actually looks at history & is not a crook is against THE CON. After a 10 year cooling trend, the idea of getting taxed to prevent "global Warming" ( the previous name for the con ) is insulting and a screw job.
See Lord Monkton's speech on the upcoming vote to take away your money.
http://www.theclimatescam.com/2009/03/13/lord-monc ktons-speech/ |
Buellboiler
| | Posted on Thursday, October 22, 2009 - 06:18 pm: |
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Alternative energy? My God, we INVENTED the source of safe energy that adds no carbon to the environment, it's called Nuclear Energy!!!!!!
Lets build nuclear power plants like there is no tomorrow (if we want to drive electric cars) and aleviate our reliance upon imported oil. Provide incentives to use the breeder cycle (that was outlawed by Carter and reversed by Reagan).
Work on solar/wind/switch grass/etc. as secondary sources of power.
Nuclear is the best solution and it is the one thing obama hasn't mentioned since the election. Apparently it was only an election ploy that has conveniently been dropped.
Why isn't the U.S. leading the world in the technology that it invented? |
Mndwgz
| | Posted on Thursday, October 22, 2009 - 06:35 pm: |
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Quote:
"Why isn't the U.S. leading the world in the technology that it invented?"
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Because the sheeple are happy with the status quo. |
Sifo
| | Posted on Thursday, October 22, 2009 - 07:11 pm: |
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If we the people want to invest in our country's energy future the money will have to come from somewhere. It will have to come from taxes. There is nowhere else for public investment to come from.
You have no idea how a free market system works, do you? |
Aesquire
| | Posted on Thursday, October 22, 2009 - 11:13 pm: |
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Anyone remember the X-prize? For first homemade suborbital flight? The Kremer prizes for man powered aircraft? The Team Paul MacCready put together was not looking for wealth, so much as fame & glory.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kremer_prize
So, instead of buying a huge thing with tax money, point out a goal, give a nice prize, and watch the money happen. A good example would be a prize for reusable, practical orbiters, say, 1 ton to orbit & repeat within a week. Or Desalination of sea water to drinking water for x-cents a gallon. Once you have developed the gizmo/system/new tech, you are famous, and have something to sell, & grow the economy & improve the future.
If you can supply water to L.A. cheaper than sucking the Colorado river dry, it's a net win, as the benefits cascade. Heck, someday the river may reach the sea, again.
As far as nukes go. Go Nukes!. I'll take one for my back yard. |
M2me
| | Posted on Thursday, October 22, 2009 - 11:50 pm: |
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So, instead of buying a huge thing with tax money, point out a goal, give a nice prize, and watch the money happen.
Man powered aircraft? I don't see a lot money happening with that. It might be a great hobby, but I just don't see man powered aircraft as a viable solution to our energy problems.
Those types of prizes are for fun. We all built soap box derby cars as Cub Scouts but that was never intended to be a real solution to America's energy and transportation problems.
Nuclear? A nuclear plant is very, very expensive to build compared to coal and we have tons of coal. Unless you're a global warming alarmist, nuclear vs coal is a tough sell. I'm not a global warming alarmist. I'm an energy alarmist. We need to develop our own energy solutions. Oil is not the solution. We simply don't control enough of the world's oil supply. |
Aesquire
| | Posted on Friday, October 23, 2009 - 07:43 am: |
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Human powered flight was just an example. Sure, no one is buying gossamer pelicans to commute, but tech spinoffs from that project now are used in drone planes.
Not a lot of money yet in space tourism, but it's now happening. And not just russian boosters & a few uber rich.
I'm an energy alarmist. We need to develop our own energy solutions. Oil is not the solution. We simply don't control enough of the world's oil supply.
Total agreement.
Nuclear lets us use coal to make truck & car fuel. Natural gas is needed for home heating, so powerplant & car use is a bad idea. Coal still pollutes more, clean coal is either new tech or, by the greenie propaganda machine, doesn't exist, ( greenies lie all the time, they can't help it, they are psych cases )
Fusion, bio fuel ( not food, thats insane ) and coal to car fuel. do it all. |
Limitedx1
| | Posted on Friday, October 23, 2009 - 10:22 am: |
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goverment doesnt run the country, money and very powerful people with lots of it do. BO is a puppet just like the rest of his staff. "you will pay me how much to sign what......hmmm.....OK!"
the rich get richer and we are the ones paying them. either join them or just keep paying them and riding our motorcycles |
Fahren
| | Posted on Friday, October 23, 2009 - 11:17 am: |
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"government doesn't run the country, money and very powerful people with lots of it do."
^^^ That is an accurate statement.
No matter who is in the White House, or at the head of any country's government. |
Sifo
| | Posted on Friday, October 23, 2009 - 01:23 pm: |
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Oil is not the solution. We simply don't control enough of the world's oil supply.
Why is oil not the solution? We have huge amounts of oil in our country. We just don't dill for it. We have even more in the form of oil shale. Of course we have all been told it's too expensive to extract the oil from oil shale, but that's just a technological problem. A couple of weeks ago I was reading a news story where a new method of extracting oil from oil shale has been developed that will make it very competitive price wise.
When government gets involved they typically come up with a solution and throw money at it. The free market looks for solutions that will perform better with less money. It's the government that keeps nuclear energy from being an acceptable alternative to oil in the first place. Don't look to the government to suddenly pull it's head out of it's ass and start doing what is best for the country. It's not going to happen. The free market has proven it's ability to provide good solutions to all kinds of problems too many times to count. Let the free market work and you will get solutions. Let government dictate solutions and you will get crisis. It's a guarantee. |
Cowboy
| | Posted on Friday, October 23, 2009 - 01:41 pm: |
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Damn it some one needs to learn how to count money--If we get oil from any place other than at home at any coast it is money gone-- If we use our own even at $200 a bbl our money stays at home and it becomes stronger |
Sifo
| | Posted on Friday, October 23, 2009 - 01:46 pm: |
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Damn it some one needs to learn how to count money
If that comment is directed at me, I'm all for using our own oil. My point is that we have oil that we are choosing not to use. |
Cowboy
| | Posted on Friday, October 23, 2009 - 04:06 pm: |
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Not you I was taking aim at our polical leaders |
Sticks
| | Posted on Friday, October 23, 2009 - 04:59 pm: |
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They should just start raffling off the job, I can't imagine that it would be any worse. |
Sifo
| | Posted on Friday, October 23, 2009 - 07:27 pm: |
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They could just use a random policy generator and do better than the current administration. |
Xbrad9r
| | Posted on Saturday, October 24, 2009 - 10:57 am: |
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when you need a nice little chuckle, go on youtube and search "i gots'a peace prize"
i mowed the lawn...i got a peace prize, i did the laundry...i got a peace prize |
Aesquire
| | Posted on Sunday, October 25, 2009 - 09:02 am: |
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http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=YzYzZTY2ZmM1MjFmNGU3MjhmZmIxZjJmOTNiYjU0ZDg=
(Message edited by aesquire on October 25, 2009) |
Spatten1
| | Posted on Sunday, October 25, 2009 - 09:50 am: |
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Ellen's show must not be on Fox News. |
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