| Author | Message | ||
     Birdy |
Who can build a car that can do 0 to 60 in 4 seconds and get 60 plus MPG soon to be 100! High School kids That's who! They can get it done! AND it looks a hell of a lot better that anything the Big Three have done in a while too! http://gas2.org/2009/10/05/teenage-built-diesel-hy brid-does-0-60-in-4-seconds-soon-to-break-100-mpg/ | ||
| Court |
The United States has a LOT to learn about cars. We've had guests from Holland the last week and they always marvel at two things.
I'm taking a serious look at "downsizing". | ||
| Wolfridgerider |
I'm taking a serious look at "downsizing". I'd hold of on doing that until using any hand held device is against the law.... But what the hell do I know... I still ride almost every day.... I would like to take a Z4 for a little spin. | ||
| Danger_dave |
Approx: $US7.00 per gallon in NZ $US6.00 when last in Aus How much 'tis there? | ||
| Danger_dave |
'Yank Tank' is the widely used generic term for vehicles on American origin. | ||
| Rocketsprink |
I'll downsize when they make one that can pull a fully loaded toy hauler with my race bike and gear in it. Until then, I'll stick with my American made gas guzzler, thank you very much. | ||
| Ferris_von_bueller |
The Arabs are plotting, along with the Chicoms, Russians, Japs, etc to dump the dollar for oil trading. Indeed, it might be a good time to downsize. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/th e-demise-of-the-dollar-1798175.html | ||
| Bosh |
And you wonder why the Big Three are in trouble? I've forgotten the details but sometime back in 91 or so one of the "big 3" was trying to prove that the government standards for fuel economy were not reasonable. They built some carbon fiber crazy car that cost about a gazillion dollars to prove how expensive it would be to build a car that would get super fuel economy. In the meanwhile, I bought a Honda CRX hf and was cruising down the freeway getting 57mpg. The CRX cost $10,200.00 brand new. I still have it 210,000 miles later and it runs perfect and hasn't had a problem. 57mpg with 1991 technology, what could they do now if they built a modern version of the CRX?? 90-95 mpg shouldn't be too hard. | ||
| Bosh |
How much 'tis there? 87 octane ~ $3.15 US in California. 91 octane ~ $3.35 | ||
| 12x9sl |
I was in the Netherlands and Belgium for business last spring and being there just confirmed what I've been saying for some time....DIESELS!!! Diesels aren't used near enough here. | ||
| Stevasaurus |
Oh yeah, the Big Three should really be ashamed. Assuming the goals of safety and mass production can be met to win the prize, how much do you think that car would cost if it were ever built? It would make the forecast MSRP of $40,000 for a Chevrolet Volt look like a drop in the bucket. And if you're going down that road, why haven't the "infallible" import manufacturers provided us with one either? | ||
| Nik |
Its based off a K-1 Attack kitcar. | ||
| Danger_dave |
>>87 octane ~ $3.15 US in California. 91 octane ~ $3.35<< We have higher octanes - I use 98 in my Uly. Probably why it has never pinged. | ||
| Mr_grumpy |
France, appx $7.50-8 per gallon for gas around $7 for diesel. We have 95 or 98 octane here too, I always use 98; I'm told that the gas is the same in the US as other places, just that for some unfathomable reason it's measured differently. I love the smell of a cold diesel in the morning! | ||
| Berto |
How little we pay for fuel. They are paying about $5.00USD per liter (think roughly $17.00 per gallon) Have to pay for that free health care somehow | ||
| Froggy |
Danger Dave, octane rating is different in the US. Your 98 is equal to our 93.
You forget that the CRX, Geo Metro and other economy cars of the time weigh about as much as a Buell, have less power than a Blast, and are about as safe as a Chinese cardboard box. Modern safety and emissions have porked up cars. Even the almighty Prius, one of the most fuel efficient and most aerodynamic cars on the road gets a measly 50mpg while meeting modern vehicle requirements. You could easily build a 100mpg diesel hybrid that’s made out of carbon fiber and other fancy composite materials, but good luck finding one for less than the cost of your house. | ||
| Cataract2 |
Um, guys, comparing how much we pay in fuel to how much they pay is very unbalanced. For one, they have MUCH higher taxes on fuel. They also buy it per liter. If you're going to compare, at least do it balanced. 1:1 ratio. | ||
| Court |
They are paying about $5.00USD per liter (think roughly $17.00 per gallon) $5.00 per gallon x 3.6 Liters/Gallon = $18.00 per gallon. My $17 guess was close enough . . . We ain't seen nothing yet. | ||
| Wolfridgerider |
Not to worry.... in about 2 1/2 to 3 years... when the election is heating up Gas price will be at all time low.... New homes will be being built like never before.... The Market will be booming... Just you wait and see.... | ||
| Chadhargis |
At 6'5", I rather enjoy my SUV. But it gets decent mileage because it's a diesel. Sadly, Europe gets great diesels, while the US only gets big pickups that are diesel along with the VW Passat, Jetta, and Toureg. Jeep stopped selling the diesel Liberty and Grand Cherokee. I got the last year (2008) for the Grand Cherokee with the Mercedes turbo diesel. God, I love that engine! (Message edited by chadhargis on October 06, 2009) | ||
| Spatten1 |
I'll bet that winning team was not UAW. | ||
| Paw |
That's great but some oil company will purchase everything the teenagers have done and squash it just like they did many years ago with the electric car!!!! And if it makes it to manufacturing only 10% of America will be able to aford and it will be called a failure because of low sales...Be sure Leno will have one though. Did you know back in the 1920's of all the cars on NYC streets, 2/3's were Electric. | ||
| Reepicheep |
Rocketsprink... a Saab 9-3 (say 2001 with about 90 k miles) will cost about $6000, will get 33mpg highway, and has threaded bosses already in the bumper for a $80 hitch mount that will pull 2000 pounds. | ||
| Midknyte |
Did you know back in the 1920's of all the cars on NYC streets, 2/3's were Electric. Interesting. More info? Link? | ||
| Odie |
Gas was so (and still is) expensive when we were in Germany that you get gas coupons to help defray the cost. After you used them up you had to buy on the economy. Ouch! | ||
| Crackhead |
Subaru Outback with 8.7in of ground clearance (more then most SUVs) can toe 3,000lb and get 27.9mpg when i drive and 25-26 when the wife drives. Ford has a diesel 4door ranger but it would eat into the supersized Big Mac F150 market. I think it is even available across the river in Mexico. Thats right most Americans measure their size @#$% by the size of their truck. so it would never sell. | ||
| Mikef5000 |
I'll downsize when they make one that can pull a fully loaded toy hauler with my race bike and gear in it. Until then, I'll stick with my American made gas guzzler, thank you very much. 2000 lb. tow capacity:  Or how bout this one! 2000 lb tow capacity AND 50 mpg!  | ||
| Madduck |
Guys a real toy hauler has over a 1000 lb tongue weight and a gvw of around 10,000 lbs. My little enclosed race trailer has a 700 lb tongue weight and weighs about 5,000 lbs and I just run one or two bikes and a crew of three. Serious toy haulers are fifth wheel rigs, 5000 lb tongue wight and about 20,000 lbs GVW. Think renegade toters at $250,000. The horse and rodeo set make our haulers look puny. Do they even have Professional Bull Riding in Europe?? | ||
| Johnnylunchbox |
Froggy said "You forget that the CRX, Geo Metro and other economy cars of the time weigh about as much as a Buell, have less power than a Blast, and are about as safe as a Chinese cardboard box. " Not safe after the oneupsmanship of the last 20 years made cars heavier and heavier to survive collisions with other heavier and heavier cars. Self-fulfilling prophecy? Endless cycle? | ||
| Jstfrfun |
My stock Ram 2500 gets 20mpgwhen empty and 15-17 when towing 4-5,000lbs, I could o better with about 800 in mod costs but I'm just gonna leave her stock. Had a pair of tourists on rented harleys broke down in Death Valley yesterday who needed rescue and repair, they were very impressed with the comfort and roominess of my truck. And of course it's performance! |
