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Blake
Posted on Monday, September 21, 2009 - 02:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'd never suspect him, but the Times don't lie.

http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/ind ustry_sectors/technology/article6841779.ece
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Glitch
Posted on Monday, September 21, 2009 - 02:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Welcome to the club Matt!
http://toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/ 20090917/NEWS09/909170322/-1/NEWS
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Odie
Posted on Monday, September 21, 2009 - 02:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Matt and Glitch- I have more than enough to worry about without this crap!!

Wow. Just when I thought I was semi-safe. I know nothing is really safe but come on. I can't bank online anymore without having to worry about someone stealing my hard earned cash monies.....guess I should've bought a ton of books of forever stamps instead....
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Glitch
Posted on Monday, September 21, 2009 - 03:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

A good anti-virus (that's kept up to date, and allowed to scan daily) is really all you need.
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Teeps
Posted on Monday, September 21, 2009 - 03:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

What anti virus program do you consider good?
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Odie
Posted on Monday, September 21, 2009 - 03:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Yea, I'm protected pretty good; today at least.........
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Glitch
Posted on Monday, September 21, 2009 - 03:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I use AVG.
They even have a free version (the one I use)
http://free.avg.com/
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Glitch
Posted on Monday, September 21, 2009 - 03:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I also use this if I feel there's a need.
http://www.malwarebytes.org/

Since the boys have their own computers now, my machine has been trouble-free for the most part...
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Slaughter
Posted on Monday, September 21, 2009 - 03:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Trojan condoms prevent infection.
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Odie
Posted on Monday, September 21, 2009 - 03:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)



Since the boys have their own computers now, my machine has been trouble-free for the most part...


Funny how that works. Same here! I use CCleaner, Windows Defender, Registry Cure, SpyBot S&D, Bit DEfender and AdAware SE. I've been good for 2 years on my laptop. The kids having their own helps tremendously!
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Midknyte
Posted on Monday, September 21, 2009 - 03:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

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Froggy
Posted on Monday, September 21, 2009 - 03:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Wow, this Trojan is over a year and a half old, Norton antivirus protected computers have been immune to this since January 2008!
http://www.symantec.com/security_response/writeup. jsp?docid=2008-011616-5036-99

At least if you do get infected its easy to remove.
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Jaimec
Posted on Monday, September 21, 2009 - 04:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Not so fast...
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Slamber777
Posted on Monday, September 21, 2009 - 04:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Froggy is right. Symantec is the way to go. l too had AVG Free and the virus infected my computer. Nothing could save it but a reload. The AVG Free didn't even slow it down.

Spend the money - buy the Norton 360 3.0 and surf safe.
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Reepicheep
Posted on Monday, September 21, 2009 - 04:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I hated norton... I wanted an anti-malware tool, and they kept forcing an upsell to a highly invasive full security suite, that then proceeded to make my systems run like crap.

AVGFree has kept a pile of systems I help maintain virus free for years. Addware is still a threat though.

Running something like Bluecoat K9 web filtering software is also a good idea and offers a ton of protection. Most malware is a small downloader that then gets the big evil payload, and the big evil payload typically comes from some known internet "bad neighborhoods".

I check the webfiltering software logs periodically to make sure the kids are not getting slimed, and am amazed at how many potential malware distribution site blocks are logged.
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Froggy
Posted on Monday, September 21, 2009 - 05:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)


quote:

Froggy is right. Symantec is the way to go




Actually no its not! : D


Jaimec, all the antivirus companies name everything with a different name, I am not even sure if the one you posted about and the one in the first post are even the same virus. Symantec doesn't have anything listed for "Zeus". Uggg.... whatever, I don't even run an AV on my Vista computer anyway.

Also for what its worth, we have no reported infections here at work, 2300 computers covered by McAfee enterprise.
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Bigdaddy
Posted on Monday, September 21, 2009 - 06:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

My only Window$ machine is a VM so if it does get infected it's easily blown away and fixed. That being said just say no to bloatware and if at all possible skip right on past the Micro$oft counter.
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Jaimec
Posted on Monday, September 21, 2009 - 06:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I've used Avast! (perfect for "Talk Like A Pirate Day") for years. Completely unintrusive, and it's saved my bacon on a couple of occasions. It's also free for personal use.

I love the scanning engine... unlike that obnoxious Symantec crap we have at work that takes over your machine whether you want it or not and drags everything to a crawl, the Avast scanner installs as your screen saver. When you walk away and leave your computer unattended, THAT'S when it scans your system.

Also, real-time protection from E-Mail, web browsing, etc. Highly recommended. Norton Anti-Virus USED to be an excellent defense, but it's become the most obnoxious piece of bloatware I've seen besides Windows itself in the past few years.
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Rah7777777
Posted on Monday, September 21, 2009 - 08:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

AVG free sucks!

had a trojan it wouldnt ditch.

now run Kaspersky on the PC's. with daily scan and hourly updates.

But mainly use the MAC for browsing......
Thats about the best anti-virus ive found :-)
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Americanmadexb
Posted on Monday, September 21, 2009 - 08:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

+1 for Kaspersky. Use on all 4 of my computers!
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Odie
Posted on Monday, September 21, 2009 - 09:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I agree with Avast being good. I use it on our machines at our pet supply/grooming business. I need to run it on my laptop but I always forget to.
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Monday, September 21, 2009 - 09:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

It'll be our luck Dave and Matt will hook up and create the "trojan glitch" and we will all be soundly screwed.
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Blake
Posted on Tuesday, September 22, 2009 - 11:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I removed all email and IM software from the machine years ago. I use webmail exclusively. So many of these viruses and trojans exploit email and IM apps in order to report their ill-gotten info.

That plus a hardware firewall and Norton 360 seem to have prevented any issues.

I really like the Norton 360, all in one, self updating, self scanning, pretty much a total no brainer for me. It does use resources, but with 2GB RAM, it doesn't seem to be an issue.

Am I missing something?

(Message edited by blake on September 22, 2009)
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Glitch
Posted on Tuesday, September 22, 2009 - 11:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Am I missing something?
the "trojan glitch"
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Brinnutz
Posted on Tuesday, September 22, 2009 - 12:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I use Avira free.

I have used nothing but free Anti-Virus for YEARS.

I've not once had a virus.

But then again, I know what I'm doing and scan using Spybot, Malwarebytes, and a couple of others every now and again for safe measure.

EDIT:
By the way, who is Matt, and what relevance to him does this have? I'm confused Blake.

(Message edited by brinnutz on September 22, 2009)
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Glitch
Posted on Tuesday, September 22, 2009 - 12:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Matt owns
http://www.trojan-horse.co.uk/
His user name is Trojan, he's a long time friend and sponsor of BadWeB.
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Brinnutz
Posted on Tuesday, September 22, 2009 - 12:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Ahh, that makes sense then...I know of Trojan, but didn't get the joke apparently. LOL
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Trojan
Posted on Tuesday, September 22, 2009 - 12:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Nothing to do with me, honest!

(when we started a business and called it Trojan-Horse it was named after a Greek legend and not a computer virus : ( I don't think such things existed back then!

Maybe I should change the name now that it has such ghastly connotations.
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