Posted on Wednesday, September 16, 2009 - 12:12 pm:
AWESOME. Was so disgusted with Vista went though a billion hoops to get my OEM Vista lappy converted to Xp Pro. Had to ghetto rig many drivers and such to make it work. Was hesitant about Win 7 cuz it looked like that POS Vista but its SWEET. Nice looks, easy and thoughtful navigation (yeah whatsup now Mac!), nice features, hasn't lagged or frozen since I installed it. Microsoft stepped up after releasing that steaming junk pile Vista and step up they did.
Posted on Wednesday, September 16, 2009 - 01:07 pm:
From my limited experience with 7, its just Vista with a different task bar. A few back end changes too, but nothing worth upgrading too over Vista. I will be upgrading to 7 Ultimate over the winter, just because I always run the latest and Vista is starting to show its age on my machine. I have been running it for several years on the same install, and its time for a change
Posted on Wednesday, September 16, 2009 - 01:37 pm:
My old laptop ran XP and I had no real complaints about it other than it was a pretty slow machine.
Windows has now had a running history of having great and stable OS's consecutively with total friggin losers.
I decided that, after 5 years, I needed a new laptop. I was no longer willing to be a guinea pig for Miscrosoft, and my MacBook Pro just came yesterday. The fit and finish of the physical machine is a gazillion times nicer than ANY PC-based notebook I've seen, and Snow Leopard is as nice as every says it is.
Maybe I can't do as much as I could on my PC, but what do I really need besides basic internet, music, videos and photos? not much.
I'm crossing my fingers that Windows 7 is as good as everyone says it is, because I'm sure we'll be switching over at work in the coming years.
For the record, I'm not a Mac snob that hates anything Microsoft, I was just ready for something different and what MS had to offer I wasn't ready for.
Posted on Wednesday, September 16, 2009 - 01:52 pm:
Ahhhh you're all MAC fans! Yuppies!!!
JK
The software and detail level on Macs never appealed to me, I like gettin in the down and dirty of Windows Explorer and such. Mac seems too easy, like an autotragic transmission. But folks do seem to like it. Guess the cost of customization comes with less crashing and easier use.
As far as 7 goes, I had to rewrite a thesis and a midterm paper cuz of Vista crashing. Even after I reinstalled it with a friends copy....
Win 7 is still fresh, fast and no "green ribbons of death" a la Vista.
Posted on Wednesday, September 16, 2009 - 02:04 pm:
so tell me how much does it cost to upgrade to windows 7?
i bet it isn't this cheap....
now don't get me wrong i have 3 laptops running windows and 1 macbook pro. all of the windows run decent. but the mac runs faster and is more stable then all 3 window combined.
Posted on Wednesday, September 16, 2009 - 02:16 pm:
The software and detail level on Macs never appealed to me, I like gettin in the down and dirty of Windows Explorer and such. Mac seems too easy, like an autotragic transmission. But folks do seem to like it. Guess the cost of customization comes with less crashing and easier use.
The OSX core (Darwin) is based on BSD. I can open up a console and do everything on a command line (windows explorer like a manual? please... its all about the shell) Can install different front ends too, just like with linux. Doesn't get much customizable than that.
Posted on Wednesday, September 16, 2009 - 03:15 pm:
Snow leopard is running nice on my home box. Not much new in the iCandy dept, but the core apps have got some more punch to them Especially Safari which at version 4 has really become a useful browser. Page loading seems to have improved at least 50% and though I don't know why yet I have about a 75 to 100% download speed increase. Old Safari download speed topped out at around 1.5 MB a minute. Under Snow Leopard it has peaked at 2.5 to 3MB with 2MB being the norm!!! That is some bandwidth efficiency. Using Fios.
I hope Windows 7 works out. I felt bad for all the users that got jerked by Vista.
Posted on Wednesday, September 16, 2009 - 03:36 pm:
I hope Windows 7 works out. I felt bad for all the users that got jerked by Vista
that steaming junk pile Vista
and my gripe:
The damn thing wouldn't let certain programs work like they were supposed to unless you worked around it the long way, and it also wouldn't recognize hardware that was installed and working earlier in the day!
I was really suprised when the Little Kid went out an bought a laptop with Vista on it especially after we had so much trouble with the desk top back at the swamp. He just won't listen....but hey, hes a kid!
Posted on Wednesday, September 16, 2009 - 04:08 pm:
I found Vista to be EXTREMELEY slow, laggy, buggy-junk would freeze up for no reason, "green ribbon of death" constantly, internet/wireless would fade in and out, and this was all OEM on Acer lappy. They seem to have corrected those issues in 7, have had 0 driver/hardware problems even when plugging in camera, phone, Ipod, etc.
Was tempted at one point to buy a Mac but a tendency to be loyal to past brands held me back (Buell, Ford, Bud Light, etc )
Posted on Wednesday, September 16, 2009 - 04:16 pm:
i bet it isn't this cheap...
To be fair, that's the upgrade price for user who:
a) already are running Mac OS X 10.5, and
b) bought their Mac after June 8th (or something like that).
Windows is offering a free Windows 7 upgrade if you order a new machine with Vista Premium (I can only confirm this with Dell as I was shopping with them before deciding on a Mac).
Posted on Wednesday, September 16, 2009 - 04:25 pm:
Well, that's lovely but too late for me. After having iPhones for 2 years or so now, and being stuck with vista for 3 years, my mind is made up. Next time I'm ready to throw the pc in he dumpster, I'll be replaced with a mac. It may happen sooner than later, as my mothers pc is giving her fits (it's gettin up in age) so I may give her mine so I can start my relationship with a mac.
Posted on Wednesday, September 16, 2009 - 06:51 pm:
a) already are running Mac OS X 10.5, and
Actually, that is false too. Snow Leopard will also upgrade OSX 10.4 (Tiger).
According to the Web Site "Cult of the Mac":
That $30 Snow Leopard disc Apple’s making available starting Friday. It works with more than just full Leopard installs — it can upgrade any Intel Mac, including those running Tiger. In other words, unless you want to pick up iLife and iWork in the process, the only reason to buy the $169 Mac Box is if you want to live by the spirit of Apple’s marketing."
Of course, most of you real macpeople knew that already, right?
Anyway, nobody actually buys a mac OS, they just borrow it. No nasty kind of authentication thingy.
I admit I did buy mine. Otherwise all my friends would have no one to borrow it from.
(Message edited by gentleman_jon on September 16, 2009)
Posted on Wednesday, September 16, 2009 - 07:53 pm:
GeForce, I haven't seen that vid in ages. I laughed till I cried! Good stuff!
I have high hopes for 7. Ubuntu was handy to get me back on the net after that virus bashed my last XP install, but I can't do anything else with it. Windows software just won't work properly with it (Wine be damned), and 3/4 of the stuff I've downloaded from the Synaptic Package Manager doesn't work either. Linux has a long, LONG way to go to be as user friendly as Windows. Looking forward to going back to Microsoft... and I never, NEVER thought I'd say that.
Posted on Wednesday, September 16, 2009 - 07:56 pm:
I've liked XP from the first. When I told my wife to go ahead and get a laptop we had been looking at, I sent her alone to Best Buy, big mistake! She came home with a monster the salesperson "upgraded" her into, and it had Vista on it. I hated it the moment she fired it up. Long story short, we dumped it off on her brother, and I just got a note book...FOR ME!, and it uses XP
Posted on Wednesday, September 16, 2009 - 08:06 pm:
We just bought an iMac 2 days ago and it came with the snow leopard disc.
When I get out of the hospital I intend to install it on our macbook pro and the other iMac. I just love the 24"(?) studio displays. the new one having 1TB on the hard drive and 4GB of ram isn't too bad either.
FWIW W also have 2 laptops running on XP and one on Vista. plus our Macs run bootcamp so I can use PC software on any of them if I so choose, so I am not a mac "pod person".
Having said that, none of our Macs have ever gotten itself to whatever the Mac equivalent of a BSOD is. They have all been incredibly stable. I cannot say the same for the Windows operating systems. All 3 have BSOD'd or simply frozen many many times.
FWIW my next laptop will probably be a mac book air with the solid state hard drive. It should be everything I need when I'm on the move without excess weight, especially since I can run bootcamp and ECM spy
Posted on Wednesday, September 16, 2009 - 08:27 pm:
yep, BSOD. It is way too common on a pc based machine, as noted b y it being a commonly used acronym
As I noted, I've never seen it's equivalent on a mac and we've had the macbook pro for >5 years, the our first imac >2 years now and we use them fairly hard, even letting the girls (11 & 13) surf the net and play games on them. (SCARY, I know)
Posted on Wednesday, September 16, 2009 - 08:47 pm:
My PC's are so stable, the last time I saw a BSOD on my PC, it was leaking antifreeze onto my videocard (Good thing I had a piece of crap card in!)
BSOD's 95% of the time are caused by bad drivers, and most of the time those drivers are from shoddy vendors that make inferior accessories like cheapo Chinese webcams and such. Vista, especially the 64 bit one is more stringent with the driver requirements, and therefore is more stable than XP, especially XP 32bit.
At work I manage 2200 PC's, and out of them, our most common issues are all hardware. Hard drives and power supplies fail, and software wise occasionally a machine doesn't take an update correctly. We have a Mac on campus for evaluation purposes, but it gets next to no use.
Posted on Wednesday, September 16, 2009 - 09:26 pm:
I hope I don't jinx myself but.....myself and my 16 y.o. are both running Vista home basic and premium on two Dell laptops with ZERO issues. I have grown to like it, mostly. I know; I'm probably one of 50 folks out there that like it.
Posted on Wednesday, September 16, 2009 - 10:06 pm:
I like Vista and have been running it for almost a year. Have never had it freeze up. Runs very fast. A lot of it depends on your memory amount. Upgrading a XP machine to vista was a no no.