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Swordsman
Posted on Tuesday, September 08, 2009 - 09:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

"Dear Cliff



We were just about to fill our sheds with Buell Blast motors when Mr Buell
announced the demise of the Buell Blast.



As you know, we have designed our four Mac motorbikes around the Blast motor
and the Blast's withdrawal from Buell's range means we need to find an
alternative.



In keeping with Mac's philosophy, we would like your input again.



We have attached a picture of what our Mac 'Spud' motorcycle would look like
powered by a liquid-cooled Yamaha XT 660 motor and we'd really like to know
what you think. This link will take you to the page on our website;



<http://www.mac-motorcycles.com/topsecret/>
http://www.mac-motorcycles.com/topsecret/



As you would expect, there are a few changes to the specification and
performance, as follows;



* The standard XT 660 motor produces 48 BHP (compared to the 34 BHP of
the standard Buell Blast motor)



* The XT 660 motor is liquid-cooled and fuel-injected.



* Engine servicing and spares are readily available from Yamaha's
dealer network.



* At this stage, we expect the price of Mac Motorcycles to remain
consistent with previously published figures.



We'd really appreciate your thoughts, when you get a moment; your feedback
is invaluable to us.



With our sincerest thanks for your continued support.



The 'Chaps' at Mac Motorcycles



Mac Motorcycles



Worcester



England"


This makes me think that perhaps even the non-badged Blast is on borrowed time, or Harley simply wouldn't negotiate.

~SM
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Rainman
Posted on Tuesday, September 08, 2009 - 10:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Could be. The economy has been hard on some Riders Edge programs as well as the company, so they may pull the plug in the next year or two. Without RE, there's no reason to continue making the Blast, except to keep mine in parts.
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Geforce
Posted on Tuesday, September 08, 2009 - 01:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Pretty sure it's still being made, just not badged as a Buell... correct?
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Hughlysses
Posted on Tuesday, September 08, 2009 - 01:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

That's what we've heard, and I responded to MAC's e-mail and said that.

Hey, maybe Rotax will sell them the 450 they had designed for the axed Buell dirt bike project?
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Tuesday, September 08, 2009 - 02:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

My guess is that just like Roehr, HD would make Mac buy the WHOLE blast rather than just source the engines. Financially, it made the Blast motor financially untenable.

Buell may have been willing to source just the motors.
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Froggy
Posted on Tuesday, September 08, 2009 - 02:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)


quote:

Pretty sure it's still being made, just not badged as a Buell... correct?




Yes, the only Buell emblem on it that I have noticed was on the speedometer.
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Glitch
Posted on Tuesday, September 08, 2009 - 03:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

If it were me, I'd source the Blast engines from e-bay.
If he's looking for factory support, I'm sure H-D and Buell would be giving him the cold shoulder.
I'm not sure Yamaha would give them any support either.
He'd need to go to an engine supplier, like Buell did with Rotax.
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Ferris_von_bueller
Posted on Tuesday, September 08, 2009 - 03:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hey, maybe Rotax will sell them the 450 they had designed for the axed Buell dirt bike project?"

Considering Buell spent millions on that project, I doubt it.
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Swordsman
Posted on Tuesday, September 08, 2009 - 04:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I also responded and told them about the unbadged Blasts. I asked directly if H-D was being uncooperative, or if the Blast really was a goner. We'll see how they respond, which I'm fairly sure they will. They've been good about personal replies so far. Maybe they can shed a little more light on the mystery.

~SM
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Fahren
Posted on Tuesday, September 08, 2009 - 04:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Check again on the personal replies. I got two in response to my emails - both the same boiler-plate "personal-sounding" text. Can you say auto-reply?
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Teddagreek
Posted on Tuesday, September 08, 2009 - 10:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

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Crackhead
Posted on Wednesday, September 09, 2009 - 07:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

stupid move on HD part. They are forcing a plant shut down, but they have a chance to keep some of the people employed.
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Fahren
Posted on Wednesday, September 09, 2009 - 09:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I know - who would turn down American mfg. (or any other, for that matter) jobs with the current state of the economy?!?

Gee, someone actually wants to buy a fair number of my product.... think I'd rather just say no and lay off some workers.....
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Barker
Posted on Wednesday, September 09, 2009 - 09:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

manufacturing P3 mills would not keep the East Troy plant open. Buell Air cooled mills are created @ power-train ops factory.
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Xl1200r
Posted on Wednesday, September 09, 2009 - 09:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

And for the price they want for these super singles, i think the number of units sold would be completely irrelevant to Buell or HD.
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Sanchez
Posted on Wednesday, September 09, 2009 - 01:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

It doesn't look nearly as cool without the carb and filter filling that big gap under the seat. A 660cc motor puts the bike in a different insurance category as well.
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Lastbornjoker
Posted on Wednesday, September 09, 2009 - 01:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

It doesn't look nearly as cool without the carb and filter filling that big gap under the seat. A 660cc motor puts the bike in a different insurance category as well.

+1. i think the cooling fins add a nice touch.still looks good but not as good.
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Midknyte
Posted on Wednesday, September 09, 2009 - 03:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'll probably never get or even afford one, but it looses a bunch of style points on me
for going liquid cooled, and almost as many allure points for the Eastern engine...
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Fast1075
Posted on Wednesday, September 09, 2009 - 04:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The big gap under the seat is just right for a turbo : ) Woot Woot!!!
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Thursday, September 10, 2009 - 02:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Looks like a Hellcat on a budget. I dont like all that air in the engine bay, it needs SOMETHING.

The Rotax 450 is already out and available for 3 years, Can Am has been using it in their quads.... go get that and make me an SM/DS while you are at it.
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