| Author | Message | ||
     2kx1 |
New MV triple in Cycle World, I heard about it a few years ago and it seems to be partially developed. What's up, anyone?????? | ||
| Buell2001b |
is this the new engine under HD!!!! | ||
| Buell2001b |
where are th new MV!!! | ||
| Court |
Yeah . . .right.  | ||
| Trojan |
More than one new MV Court http://www.motorcyclenews.com/MCN/News/newsresults /First-rides--tests/2009/September/sep3009-2010-mv -agusta-brutale-first-ride/ Plus hot rumours of a F4 replacement very soon and the forth coming middleweight 675 triple. Seems H-D have money to spend on some projects after all | ||
| 46champ |
I think all the design work was done before H-D bought MV. Of course the real money gets spent putting them in production. | ||
| Madduck |
I believe that Harley will sell MV as soon as it can find a buyer for the marque. The prospects of HD building this brand up to something special are vanishingly small under the new management team. Positive press, such as this article make for good PR when negotiating a potential sale. I would definitely concentrate on the products they know. Buell and Harley together make a good motorcycle company. | ||
| Trojan |
I believe that Harley will sell MV as soon as it can find a buyer for the marque. Why on earth would they do that? MV is a prestige brand that has a huge cache to its name in a completely different field and to a completely new customer to the usual Harley buyer. H-D bought MV very cheaply, and the only downside was that they failed to hang onto legendary designer Massimo Tamburini in the deal. MV's have always been aspirational motorcycles here in Europe, more so than H-D to a most motorcyclists. Also H-D has a very stayed image over here to a lot of motorcyclists, put off by the whole 'lifestyle' thing that goes with H-D (and is encouraged by HOG and other H-D owner clubs). The ownership of MV actually makes a lot of sense to H-D's market, because it is seen as a company with a rich European sports heritage and without the H-D baggage that Buell is seen to have by a large proportion of the buying public over here. So long as they can keep the brand entirely separate and not start selling MV's in Harley showrooms they will have a successful niche brand. None of the UK bike press include any Buell in sportsbike categories and don't think to include an 1125 in a group test in either faired or CR format. Yet those same magazines and publications would never dream of leaving an MV Brutale or F4 out of a group comparison test. Like it or not, Buell has still not hit the spot with sports bike riders outside of the US when it comes to mass appeal (something that separating the brand from H-D dealerships would no doubt improve). Despite 13 years of official Buell imports Buell is still seen as a very small 'niche' manufacturer even compared to MV, despite making and selling more bikes per year than the Italian concern. This has nothing to do with the quality of the product by the way, and I am not criticising anything about Buell products in this. It is purely a perception by the buying public and, like it or not, an MV is seen as an aspirational product while the Buell is still largely seen as an 'eccentric' buy, regardless of the actual dynamic properties and quality of the respective brands. | ||
| Madduck |
MV will be of little interest to HD as they are narrowly focused on selling a lifestyle which includes a distinctive type of motorcycle. Lately that has been the "Baggers" and "Fatboys". MV will not add one customer to their lifestyle quest. They could have just as well bought a small puppy mill. Harley wives might want a small dog as an accesory but the small dogs won't add customers to the "Harley Culture". Made in the USA leather products will be consuming much more attention as Harley backs away from the "globaliztion" trend that abruptly ended December 2009. It is a brave new world we are entering into and MV will not sell Harleys. | ||
| 46champ |
abruptly ended December 2009 ? | ||
| Trojan |
Made in the USA leather products will be consuming much more attention as Harley backs away from the "globaliztion" trend that abruptly ended December 2009. It is a brave new world we are entering into and MV will not sell Harleys. H-D couldn't survive long without global export sales, as they are a huge slice of the MoCo's annual sales revenue. Are you suggesting that they should retrench into a US only bike company? By the way, next time you buy a 'Made in the USA' Harley leather jacket you may want to remove the 'made in China' label. Acquiring The MV brand has nothing to do with selling Harleys, but adding another 'completely diferent' brand to the portfolio and is designed to increase the sales of MV's, not Harleys. The MoCo came out with a press release at the time of the purchase to the effect that it would give them a larger European dealer base, but that made no sense. H-D already has hundreds of Euro dealers selling their products, and MV dealers certainly won't be looking to put Fatboys next to Brutales & F4's thats for sure. What MV gives Harley is an historical and well respected 'name' in the sportsbike world. The mere fact that they are taking their investment so seriously and developing so many new models shows that they are not about to unload MV again any time soon. | ||
| Court |
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| Patches |
http://www.totalmotorcycle.com/photos/2010models/2010-MVAgusta-Brutale1090RR.htm BRUTALE 1090RR: Identity transformed. MADE IN MV. When straddling the new Brutale, you realize that the character and personality have matured. The riding position is the first tangible improvement. The long and spacious seat allows even riders of above average stature to sit comfortably and to grasp a more ergonomically placed handlebar.The sensation is that of riding a motorcycle that has grown a couple of sizes, one that is more inviting. The sensitivity of an MV at low revs has been transformed into a strength. The 1090RR, with its superior technology, achieves results that no other naked can approach - particularly on the track, where it becomes a beast with an insatiable drive. At the same time, it remains obedient to the entry level rider tackling his first curves. In its sensuously nuanced power, the timeless Italian spirit emerges: never before has there been such a Brutale! Almost a decade has passed since the appearance of the first Brutale, a prestigious, naked motorcycle with fascinating design, power, and speed. Its characteristics, unique and unmistakable, have made it famous the world over, enabling it to win coveted prizes as the most beautiful motorcycle of the year. The Brutale pushes the limits of research and technology in its 2010 models - the 990R and the 1090RR. With its state-of-the-art components, the 2010 Brutale delivers acclaimed performance and ease of riding, in keeping with the “Made in MV” formula: a commitment to excellence in componentry, in the design of which MV Agusta is at the forefront. The “easy” handling enable the Brutale to compete with the Japanese nakeds: it is agile and instinctive in the hands of the rider. It excels on the racetrack, and its eclectic elegance and charm thrill even the casual admirer. To achieve these results, it was necessary to replace 85% of the components, but the new Brutale has preserved the significant style features of previous versions. The work carried out on the 990R and 1090RR cannot be defined as mere restyling; rather, it is a silent MV Agusta revolution. BRUTALE NEW ERA: 85% of the components are new and were DESIGNED BY MV AGUSTA There is little left of the old Brutale model, as 85% of the parts have been completely redesigned. From the aesthetics, to the engine, to the rolling chassis, no component can be interchanged with those of the previous versions.  2010 MV Agusta Brutale 1090RR - North American Specifications North America MSRP: $18,000 USD  2010 MV Agusta Brutale 990R - North American Specifications North America MSRP: $15,000 USD Buell XB & 1125's still better deal. | ||
| 2kx1 |
November 9th the new F4 will be shown. The teaser is on youtube. The F3 test mule has been spotted. | ||
| Court |
>>>2010 MV Agusta Brutale 1090RR I **think** I saw one on Second Avenue today. Not sure if it was a 2010, it was a Bruatale. That'll be a completely different market than Buell. |
